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PJ Send message Joined: 30 Jun 14 Posts: 127 Credit: 774,387 RAC: 0 |
I found (locked) thread with similar title, glad I did as I thought there was something wrong. I can fully understand how being allowed to post in the Q&A section can be a good thing to help prevent bots and spammer's. One thing though, the graph is showing about another 65 hrs before first task is complete, should I switch to one of the 12 hr tasks? Looking at the date (Nov 2009) I can see why you need as many computers as possible working on this stuff, Pretty sure date is still accumulating way faster than it can be processed? |
rob smith Send message Joined: 7 Mar 03 Posts: 22222 Credit: 416,307,556 RAC: 380 |
When starting out the time estimates are very pessimistic, so sit tight on the tasks that are running. As to the data being processed, just now a lot of old data is being re-processed using the current applications which perform a more sensitive search. Bob Smith Member of Seti PIPPS (Pluto is a Planet Protest Society) Somewhere in the (un)known Universe? |
Zalster Send message Joined: 27 May 99 Posts: 5517 Credit: 528,817,460 RAC: 242 |
Couple of things first. When you first start with Seti, the times you see that show time to completion are estimates. Due to the wide variety of computers on here, there is no way for Seti to know with great precision how long it will take your computer to complete a work unit. After you have done (I think it's 18 or 20 ) work units, the estimated time will be closer to the actual amount of time to complete. But even if you were to get the work unit done in say 12 hours, you still have to wait for validation of the data from another computer. Each work unit is sent to 2 computers. Each has a set amount of time in which to complete that work unit. Once done, it's sent back to Seti where it waits to be compared against that second computer. If the results are similar enough then both computers get credit. If they aren't close enough then the work unit is sent to a 3rd computer and that result is compared against the first 2 result to see which are similar enough. This can go on up to 5 times. If none of the results are close enough, an error is reported and none or partial credit is granted. Only those computers whose results are similar will be granted credit, the other's have their results marked invalid and no credit given. So it may take some time before you are granted credit for your work unit if at all. In the beginning, there was so much data that it seems like an overwhelming task. Computers were slow and only single core and no GPU crunching. A lot has changed over the years. If you look at the statistics section above and look at the top host, some of these computers are major powerhouses. The Graphic cards are becoming more and more powerful and chewing through the data at impressive rates. Of course not all people have such machines but every bit helps. You can check the status of what data being processed here http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/sah_status.html You can see how fast the tapes are being analyzed. As the power of computers increase, they are finding new ways to use peoples donated computer time. Even reanalyzing old tapes to see if something was missed just a few years ago. Sorry for the long explanation. Zalster |
PJ Send message Joined: 30 Jun 14 Posts: 127 Credit: 774,387 RAC: 0 |
It's all good, I was expecting to get 1 or 2 credits, turns out it's over 500 so I can now become a nuisance everywhere. LOL |
wingdi Send message Joined: 28 Apr 14 Posts: 451 Credit: 4,541 RAC: 0 |
Only able to post here as I don't have any credits, my android won't crunch. |
Julie Send message Joined: 28 Oct 09 Posts: 34053 Credit: 18,883,157 RAC: 18 |
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rob smith Send message Joined: 7 Mar 03 Posts: 22222 Credit: 416,307,556 RAC: 380 |
Your android is not showing as being connected to the project. Once you have installed BOINC you have to attach to SETI@Home, this will create the unique (SETI@Home) identity for the computer (your android). It will automagically download a small number of tasks, and start to process them, returning the results as they complete, and they are then validated against another user who has been sent another copy of the same task, and provided the two sets of results are sufficiently similar you will get some credit. In the case of an android device you should be able to get BOINC from Google's app store (or what ever they call it). Bob Smith Member of Seti PIPPS (Pluto is a Planet Protest Society) Somewhere in the (un)known Universe? |
Julie Send message Joined: 28 Oct 09 Posts: 34053 Credit: 18,883,157 RAC: 18 |
Your android is not showing as being connected to the project. Boinc doesn't recognize his android and thinks it's a Macintosh thus doesn't want to download itself onto his smartphone. Don't think we've tried Google appstore yet, only the direct download from the website. Thanx Rob:) rOZZ Music Pictures |
wingdi Send message Joined: 28 Apr 14 Posts: 451 Credit: 4,541 RAC: 0 |
It's a Bada, not Android. Someone knows if crunching on a Bada is possible? Julie says I can't. |
Jord Send message Joined: 9 Jun 99 Posts: 15184 Credit: 4,362,181 RAC: 3 |
Julie is correct. There is only support for Android, Windows (not Windows phone, btw), Linux, Mac OS X and OpenBSD for BOINC. |
wingdi Send message Joined: 28 Apr 14 Posts: 451 Credit: 4,541 RAC: 0 |
Tried it on my old smartphone and it worked, thank you http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/hosts_user.php |
John McLeod VII Send message Joined: 15 Jul 99 Posts: 24806 Credit: 790,712 RAC: 0 |
Julie is correct. There is only support for Android, Windows (not Windows phone, btw), Linux, Mac OS X and OpenBSD for BOINC. And third part custom. This is what the technique used for optimized applications was originally intended for. BOINC WIKI |
Jord Send message Joined: 9 Jun 99 Posts: 15184 Credit: 4,362,181 RAC: 3 |
And third part custom. This is what the technique used for optimized applications was originally intended for. And how many of the BOINC porters are still around, selflessly porting BOINC 7 over to the most obscure of operating systems, Linux excluded? Yep, none. |
John McLeod VII Send message Joined: 15 Jul 99 Posts: 24806 Credit: 790,712 RAC: 0 |
And third part custom. This is what the technique used for optimized applications was originally intended for. But it is still an option to port BOINC and applications to a random OS. It is, however, a lot of work. BOINC WIKI |
Jord Send message Joined: 9 Jun 99 Posts: 15184 Credit: 4,362,181 RAC: 3 |
But we weren't talking about options, we were talking about present support. Bada, Samsung's now defunct own operating system is not supported by any of the present methods of getting BOINC, or the science applications. |
wingdi Send message Joined: 28 Apr 14 Posts: 451 Credit: 4,541 RAC: 0 |
How many credit you have to have to post on the forum? Mine is 4 but I can't post. Thank you. |
BilBg Send message Joined: 27 May 07 Posts: 3720 Credit: 9,385,827 RAC: 0 |
RAC: >1 is sufficient (I think) Give the link of thread where you can't post and what you click. (if the thread is locked no one can post) Â - ALF - "Find out what you don't do well ..... then don't do it!" :) Â |
Julie Send message Joined: 28 Oct 09 Posts: 34053 Credit: 18,883,157 RAC: 18 |
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Bella Edward Send message Joined: 14 Nov 14 Posts: 2 Credit: 0 RAC: 0 |
Thank you Julie for quick response! i wasnt aware of this commercial thing. anyways i am going through all your t&c so that i will not repeat this mistake! thank you |
Julie Send message Joined: 28 Oct 09 Posts: 34053 Credit: 18,883,157 RAC: 18 |
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