Because none of those links actually contain any new science that makes the old theories redundant.

Your answer would be disingenuous.

WinterKnight, when does theory trump observation?

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Must not conflict resolve by suggesting that someone should go sit on an ice pick...

I'll turn this around for you all.

You all are so ingrained to believe that there is no design. I have shown you all many times the very design. You reject it for your government run indoctrination systems beliefs.

None of you will come out of this mold the system has created for you.

I was once a believer of neo-darwinism. What changed my mind is odds. If something cannot happen within the lifetime of the universe it will not happen. I have clearly seen with my own two designed eyes that none of you have bothered to talk about the math. I posted it and shut you down after that post.

Lets talk about that math shall we? I was overzealous in shutting you down on this, my apologies.....

Sorry, but you have provided no evidence for design, just philosophical arguments. And your statistical argument is wrong. Try to step away from this dogmatic belief in ID and ask yourself this question - Why would scientists have worked so hard since Darwin to deliberately promote an incorrect theory (evolution) and how would they have sustained such a conspiracy?

Do you have ANY proof of one species changing into another?

Yes, enough proof to be sure that evolution explains genetic diversity whereas ID explains nothing. But its pointless to show it to you since you immediately reject it. Your mind is closed to reasoned argument. Which raises the question of why I am wasting my time discussing this with you when I could be having a nice cold beer...

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I'll turn this around for you all.

You all are so ingrained to believe that there is no design. I have shown you all many times the very design. You reject it for your government run indoctrination systems beliefs.

None of you will come out of this mold the system has created for you.

I was once a believer of neo-darwinism. What changed my mind is odds. If something cannot happen within the lifetime of the universe it will not happen. I have clearly seen with my own two designed eyes that none of you have bothered to talk about the math. I posted it and shut you down after that post.

Lets talk about that math shall we? I was overzealous in shutting you down on this, my apologies.....

Sorry, but you have provided no evidence for design, just philosophical arguments. And your statistical argument is wrong. Try to step away from this dogmatic belief in ID and ask yourself this question - Why would scientists have worked so hard since Darwin to deliberately promote an incorrect theory (evolution) and how would they have sustained such a conspiracy?

Do you have ANY proof of one species changing into another?

its called divergence. Look it up. there is no 1 species changing to another

Neo-Darwinism claims that one cell in our distant past changed into all the life we see today.

There is no proof of this. I'm sorry but you don't seem to understand what you belive in. There would be creationist, 7 day plan. There would be young earthers. There would be me and my belief in Intelligent Design, that would be billions of years. Then there is just Darwinism, I believe in this also. Then there would be Neo-Darwinism, the place you have said you belong.

If I have left something out please inform me so I don't make the same mistake again.

However, Neo-Darwinism does claim (without proof) that all life came from a single cell in our distant past. This tells us that life has indeed changed by one species turning into another over a long time.

This would be the second time I have told you this. If your belief system has changed or if I have misunderstood please let me know, as I said I don't wish to be mistaken about this....

Species do not evolve into other species. Rather, a part of a single species, subjected to selection pressure, separates into a separate species. We have evolved from gorillas, but gorillas still exist. They did not evolve into humans.

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We define blackholes as the centre of an area of space, which looks empty, where we see movement of stars and clouds that must be caused by a massive spinning gravitational source.

At present we don't know what is inside the event horizon, but we don't need to, we have defined the space as a blackhole.

Around us on this planet, I see all sorts of things in a constant state of evolution. The only things I see that have been designed, have all been designed by man, or in some cases the results of mans ill concieved designs.

WinterKnight, when does theory trump observation? I have shown you many things in nature that have been designed. Many links I have given you of that proof. You have rejected them all for theory when in fact theory NEVER trumps observation--ever.

You jest?

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They got it in last week but sadly I didn't find it until Monday.

Please stay on topic, thank you.

Beer was designed. Drink some.

Because none of those links actually contain any new science that makes the old theories redundant.

Your answer would be disingenuous.

WinterKnight, when does theory trump observation?

Where are the observations that prove Intelligent design.

Like your theories about the Bible they all fall apart when examined.

I'll turn this around for you all.

You all are so ingrained to believe that there is no design. I have shown you all many times the very design. You reject it for your government run indoctrination systems beliefs.

None of you will come out of this mold the system has created for you.

I was once a believer of neo-darwinism. What changed my mind is odds. If something cannot happen within the lifetime of the universe it will not happen. I have clearly seen with my own two designed eyes that none of you have bothered to talk about the math. I posted it and shut you down after that post.

Lets talk about that math shall we? I was overzealous in shutting you down on this, my apologies.....

Sorry, but you have provided no evidence for design, just philosophical arguments. And your statistical argument is wrong. Try to step away from this dogmatic belief in ID and ask yourself this question - Why would scientists have worked so hard since Darwin to deliberately promote an incorrect theory (evolution) and how would they have sustained such a conspiracy?

Do you have ANY proof of one species changing into another?

Yes, enough proof to be sure that evolution explains genetic diversity whereas ID explains nothing. But its pointless to show it to you since you immediately reject it. Your mind is closed to reasoned argument. Which raises the question of why I am wasting my time discussing this with you when I could be having a nice cold beer...

ID: How does your theory explain how we got from single cell organisms (about 3.2 billion years ago) to humans (about 100,000 years ago). How does ID give rise to all the intervening species over 3.5 billion years? Is each one created at a particular point in time? It would be good if you could add some details to help us understand how ID gives rise to the diverse range of organisms we see today (and in the fossil record). And please, no links. Just a brief explanation!

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bluestar - there is a beginning to the prime number series - 3

Actually the first prime number is 2. It is the only even prime.

1 is not considered to be a prime.

I'll turn this around for you all.

You all are so ingrained to believe that there is no design. I have shown you all many times the very design. You reject it for your government run indoctrination systems beliefs.

None of you will come out of this mold the system has created for you.

I was once a believer of neo-darwinism. What changed my mind is odds. If something cannot happen within the lifetime of the universe it will not happen. I have clearly seen with my own two designed eyes that none of you have bothered to talk about the math. I posted it and shut you down after that post.

Lets talk about that math shall we? I was overzealous in shutting you down on this, my apologies.....

Sorry, but you have provided no evidence for design, just philosophical arguments. And your statistical argument is wrong. Try to step away from this dogmatic belief in ID and ask yourself this question - Why would scientists have worked so hard since Darwin to deliberately promote an incorrect theory (evolution) and how would they have sustained such a conspiracy?

Do you have ANY proof of one species changing into another?

its called divergence. Look it up. there is no 1 species changing to another

Neo-Darwinism claims that one cell in our distant past changed into all the life we see today.

There is no proof of this. I'm sorry but you don't seem to understand what you belive in. There would be creationist, 7 day plan. There would be young earthers. There would be me and my belief in Intelligent Design, that would be billions of years. Then there is just Darwinism, I believe in this also. Then there would be Neo-Darwinism, the place you have said you belong.

If I have left something out please inform me so I don't make the same mistake again.

However, Neo-Darwinism does claim (without proof) that all life came from a single cell in our distant past. This tells us that life has indeed changed by one species turning into another over a long time.

This would be the second time I have told you this. If your belief system has changed or if I have misunderstood please let me know, as I said I don't wish to be mistaken about this....

Species do not evolve into other species. Rather, a part of a single species, subjected to selection pressure, separates into a separate species. We have evolved from gorillas, but gorillas still exist. They did not evolve into humans.

(smile) One cell from our distant past gave us all we see as far as life goes, so says Neo-Darwinism.

Silly word games of yours amount to exactly what I have already said. One species changing into another.

You have no proof. You have no proof we have evolved from gorillas.

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Must not conflict resolve by suggesting that someone should go sit on an ice pick...

I'll turn this around for you all.

You all are so ingrained to believe that there is no design. I have shown you all many times the very design. You reject it for your government run indoctrination systems beliefs.

None of you will come out of this mold the system has created for you.

I was once a believer of neo-darwinism. What changed my mind is odds. If something cannot happen within the lifetime of the universe it will not happen. I have clearly seen with my own two designed eyes that none of you have bothered to talk about the math. I posted it and shut you down after that post.

Lets talk about that math shall we? I was overzealous in shutting you down on this, my apologies.....

Sorry, but you have provided no evidence for design, just philosophical arguments. And your statistical argument is wrong. Try to step away from this dogmatic belief in ID and ask yourself this question - Why would scientists have worked so hard since Darwin to deliberately promote an incorrect theory (evolution) and how would they have sustained such a conspiracy?

Do you have ANY proof of one species changing into another?

Yes, enough proof to be sure that evolution explains genetic diversity whereas ID explains nothing. But its pointless to show it to you since you immediately reject it. Your mind is closed to reasoned argument. Which raises the question of why I am wasting my time discussing this with you when I could be having a nice cold beer...

ID: How does your theory explain how we got from single cell organisms (about 3.2 billion years ago) to humans (about 100,000 years ago). How does ID give rise to all the intervening species over 3.5 billion years? Is each one created at a particular point in time? It would be good if you could add some details to help us understand how ID gives rise to the diverse range of organisms we see today (and in the fossil record). And please, no links. Just a brief explanation!

Please excuse me while I ponder why I have bothered to understand your point of view and yet you have not bothered to to understand mine. I have studied yours yet I am accused of not understanding yours. I have cracked many books about your line of thought and you haven't even bothered even a google search. Please excuse me while I ponder why.....

65 million years ago almost all life on this rock was destroyed. This wasn't the first time either. After this event, 65 million years ago, life was restarted. I say restarted because we cannot find an exact copy of one line after the K.T. boundary. This fact rejects the Neo-Darwinism line of thought of one cell changing into many forms of life.

Ponder the wild rose. That plant has been fostered into many colors and has little resemblance to the original plant, the wild rose. By design of man it is what it is today. You give one every year to your wife on Valentine's day.

You correctly say over 3 billion years life has been on the third rock from our sun. Yet a short 65 million years from almost nothing left of life we see the abundance of life we have today.

I'm real good at the game of poker. So good no one wants to play that game with me. I understand the odds and I can read people across the table from me. I count cards and project odds in my head.

You don't have that inside straight.

I call.....

I believe in many lines and the guiding hand of a Causal Agent, just like the wild rose.

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Must not conflict resolve by suggesting that someone should go sit on an ice pick...

I'll turn this around for you all.

You all are so ingrained to believe that there is no design. I have shown you all many times the very design. You reject it for your government run indoctrination systems beliefs.

None of you will come out of this mold the system has created for you.

I was once a believer of neo-darwinism. What changed my mind is odds. If something cannot happen within the lifetime of the universe it will not happen. I have clearly seen with my own two designed eyes that none of you have bothered to talk about the math. I posted it and shut you down after that post.

Lets talk about that math shall we? I was overzealous in shutting you down on this, my apologies.....

Sorry, but you have provided no evidence for design, just philosophical arguments. And your statistical argument is wrong. Try to step away from this dogmatic belief in ID and ask yourself this question - Why would scientists have worked so hard since Darwin to deliberately promote an incorrect theory (evolution) and how would they have sustained such a conspiracy?

Do you have ANY proof of one species changing into another?

Yes, enough proof to be sure that evolution explains genetic diversity whereas ID explains nothing. But its pointless to show it to you since you immediately reject it. Your mind is closed to reasoned argument. Which raises the question of why I am wasting my time discussing this with you when I could be having a nice cold beer...

ID: How does your theory explain how we got from single cell organisms (about 3.2 billion years ago) to humans (about 100,000 years ago). How does ID give rise to all the intervening species over 3.5 billion years? Is each one created at a particular point in time? It would be good if you could add some details to help us understand how ID gives rise to the diverse range of organisms we see today (and in the fossil record). And please, no links. Just a brief explanation!

Please excuse me while I ponder why I have bothered to understand your point of view and yet you have not bothered to to understand mine. I have studied yours yet I am accused of not understanding yours. I have cracked many books about your line of thought and you haven't even bothered even a google search. Please excuse me while I ponder why.....

65 million years ago almost all life on this rock was destroyed. This wasn't the first time either. After this event, 65 million years ago, life was restarted. I say restarted because we cannot find an exact copy of one line after the K.T. boundary. This fact rejects the Neo-Darwinism line of thought of one cell changing into many forms of life.

Ponder the wild rose. That plant has been fostered into many colors and has little resemblance to the original plant, the wild rose. By design of man it is what it is today. You give one every year to your wife on Valentine's day.

You correctly say over 3 billion years life has been on the third rock from our sun. Yet a short 65 million years from almost nothing left of life we see the abundance of life we have today.

I'm real good at the game of poker. So good no one wants to play that game with me. I understand the odds and I can read people across the table from me. I count cards and project odds in my head.

You don't have that inside straight.

I call.....

I believe in many lines and the guiding hand of a Causal Agent, just like the wild rose.

The K/T boundary event (i.e. asteroid impact) did not leave almost no life. About 75% of species dissappear at the boundary, including dinosaurs etc. However, small mammals survived and went on to expand across the earth. Many species can be identfied on both sides of the K/T boundary. You should check the fossil record data before making such unsubstantiated claims. The disapperance of large predators at the K/T boundary allowed an explosion in life forms simply because of the complete transformation of the environment, which favored their survival. There is no evidence that someone came along and designed a new set of species, since we can see that they were already present before the K/T event. Therefore, your hypothesis of ID after the K/T boundary is falsified.

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I'll turn this around for you all.

You all are so ingrained to believe that there is no design. I have shown you all many times the very design. You reject it for your government run indoctrination systems beliefs.

None of you will come out of this mold the system has created for you.

I was once a believer of neo-darwinism. What changed my mind is odds. If something cannot happen within the lifetime of the universe it will not happen. I have clearly seen with my own two designed eyes that none of you have bothered to talk about the math. I posted it and shut you down after that post.

Lets talk about that math shall we? I was overzealous in shutting you down on this, my apologies.....

Sorry, but you have provided no evidence for design, just philosophical arguments. And your statistical argument is wrong. Try to step away from this dogmatic belief in ID and ask yourself this question - Why would scientists have worked so hard since Darwin to deliberately promote an incorrect theory (evolution) and how would they have sustained such a conspiracy?

Do you have ANY proof of one species changing into another?

Yes, enough proof to be sure that evolution explains genetic diversity whereas ID explains nothing. But its pointless to show it to you since you immediately reject it. Your mind is closed to reasoned argument. Which raises the question of why I am wasting my time discussing this with you when I could be having a nice cold beer...

ID: How does your theory explain how we got from single cell organisms (about 3.2 billion years ago) to humans (about 100,000 years ago). How does ID give rise to all the intervening species over 3.5 billion years? Is each one created at a particular point in time? It would be good if you could add some details to help us understand how ID gives rise to the diverse range of organisms we see today (and in the fossil record). And please, no links. Just a brief explanation!

Please excuse me while I ponder why I have bothered to understand your point of view and yet you have not bothered to to understand mine. I have studied yours yet I am accused of not understanding yours. I have cracked many books about your line of thought and you haven't even bothered even a google search. Please excuse me while I ponder why.....

65 million years ago almost all life on this rock was destroyed. This wasn't the first time either. After this event, 65 million years ago, life was restarted. I say restarted because we cannot find an exact copy of one line after the K.T. boundary. This fact rejects the Neo-Darwinism line of thought of one cell changing into many forms of life.

Ponder the wild rose. That plant has been fostered into many colors and has little resemblance to the original plant, the wild rose. By design of man it is what it is today. You give one every year to your wife on Valentine's day.

You correctly say over 3 billion years life has been on the third rock from our sun. Yet a short 65 million years from almost nothing left of life we see the abundance of life we have today.

I'm real good at the game of poker. So good no one wants to play that game with me. I understand the odds and I can read people across the table from me. I count cards and project odds in my head.

You don't have that inside straight.

I call.....

I believe in many lines and the guiding hand of a Causal Agent, just like the wild rose.

The K/T boundary event (i.e. asteroid impact) did not leave almost no life. About 75% of species dissappear at the boundary, including dinosaurs etc. However, small mammals survived and went on to expand across the earth. Many species can be identfied on both sides of the K/T boundary. You should check the fossil record data before making such unsubstantiated claims. The disapperance of large predators at the K/T boundary allowed an explosion in life forms simply because of the complete transformation of the environment, which favored their survival. There is no evidence that someone came along and designed a new set of species, since we can see that they were already present before the K/T event. Therefore, your hypothesis of ID after the K/T boundary is falsified.

You have no exact copy of life both below and above the K.T. boundary.

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Must not conflict resolve by suggesting that someone should go sit on an ice pick...

I'll turn this around for you all.

You all are so ingrained to believe that there is no design. I have shown you all many times the very design. You reject it for your government run indoctrination systems beliefs.

None of you will come out of this mold the system has created for you.

I was once a believer of neo-darwinism. What changed my mind is odds. If something cannot happen within the lifetime of the universe it will not happen. I have clearly seen with my own two designed eyes that none of you have bothered to talk about the math. I posted it and shut you down after that post.

Lets talk about that math shall we? I was overzealous in shutting you down on this, my apologies.....

Sorry, but you have provided no evidence for design, just philosophical arguments. And your statistical argument is wrong. Try to step away from this dogmatic belief in ID and ask yourself this question - Why would scientists have worked so hard since Darwin to deliberately promote an incorrect theory (evolution) and how would they have sustained such a conspiracy?

Do you have ANY proof of one species changing into another?

its called divergence. Look it up. there is no 1 species changing to another

Neo-Darwinism claims that one cell in our distant past changed into all the life we see today.

There is no proof of this. I'm sorry but you don't seem to understand what you belive in. There would be creationist, 7 day plan. There would be young earthers. There would be me and my belief in Intelligent Design, that would be billions of years. Then there is just Darwinism, I believe in this also. Then there would be Neo-Darwinism, the place you have said you belong.

If I have left something out please inform me so I don't make the same mistake again.

However, Neo-Darwinism does claim (without proof) that all life came from a single cell in our distant past. This tells us that life has indeed changed by one species turning into another over a long time.

This would be the second time I have told you this. If your belief system has changed or if I have misunderstood please let me know, as I said I don't wish to be mistaken about this....

Species do not evolve into other species. Rather, a part of a single species, subjected to selection pressure, separates into a separate species. We have evolved from gorillas, but gorillas still exist. They did not evolve into humans.

(smile) One cell from our distant past gave us all we see as far as life goes, so says Neo-Darwinism.

Silly word games of yours amount to exactly what I have already said. One species changing into another.

You have no proof. You have no proof we have evolved from gorillas.

So provide proof that both gorillas and humans were designed by an external agency.

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I.D with all your posts and threads of the past can you answer me this please..

What is the view of your church with regards to Intelligent Design?

Are they in agreement or are they in conflict?

If in conflict, how does it affect your view of your church & which takes priority in your mind - Church or Intelligent Design?

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I'll turn this around for you all.

You all are so ingrained to believe that there is no design. I have shown you all many times the very design. You reject it for your government run indoctrination systems beliefs.

None of you will come out of this mold the system has created for you.

I was once a believer of neo-darwinism. What changed my mind is odds. If something cannot happen within the lifetime of the universe it will not happen. I have clearly seen with my own two designed eyes that none of you have bothered to talk about the math. I posted it and shut you down after that post.

Lets talk about that math shall we? I was overzealous in shutting you down on this, my apologies.....

Sorry, but you have provided no evidence for design, just philosophical arguments. And your statistical argument is wrong. Try to step away from this dogmatic belief in ID and ask yourself this question - Why would scientists have worked so hard since Darwin to deliberately promote an incorrect theory (evolution) and how would they have sustained such a conspiracy?

Do you have ANY proof of one species changing into another?

Yes, enough proof to be sure that evolution explains genetic diversity whereas ID explains nothing. But its pointless to show it to you since you immediately reject it. Your mind is closed to reasoned argument. Which raises the question of why I am wasting my time discussing this with you when I could be having a nice cold beer...

ID: How does your theory explain how we got from single cell organisms (about 3.2 billion years ago) to humans (about 100,000 years ago). How does ID give rise to all the intervening species over 3.5 billion years? Is each one created at a particular point in time? It would be good if you could add some details to help us understand how ID gives rise to the diverse range of organisms we see today (and in the fossil record). And please, no links. Just a brief explanation!

Please excuse me while I ponder why I have bothered to understand your point of view and yet you have not bothered to to understand mine. I have studied yours yet I am accused of not understanding yours. I have cracked many books about your line of thought and you haven't even bothered even a google search. Please excuse me while I ponder why.....

65 million years ago almost all life on this rock was destroyed. This wasn't the first time either. After this event, 65 million years ago, life was restarted. I say restarted because we cannot find an exact copy of one line after the K.T. boundary. This fact rejects the Neo-Darwinism line of thought of one cell changing into many forms of life.

Ponder the wild rose. That plant has been fostered into many colors and has little resemblance to the original plant, the wild rose. By design of man it is what it is today. You give one every year to your wife on Valentine's day.

You correctly say over 3 billion years life has been on the third rock from our sun. Yet a short 65 million years from almost nothing left of life we see the abundance of life we have today.

I'm real good at the game of poker. So good no one wants to play that game with me. I understand the odds and I can read people across the table from me. I count cards and project odds in my head.

You don't have that inside straight.

I call.....

I believe in many lines and the guiding hand of a Causal Agent, just like the wild rose.

The K/T boundary event (i.e. asteroid impact) did not leave almost no life. About 75% of species dissappear at the boundary, including dinosaurs etc. However, small mammals survived and went on to expand across the earth. Many species can be identfied on both sides of the K/T boundary. You should check the fossil record data before making such unsubstantiated claims. The disapperance of large predators at the K/T boundary allowed an explosion in life forms simply because of the complete transformation of the environment, which favored their survival. There is no evidence that someone came along and designed a new set of species, since we can see that they were already present before the K/T event. Therefore, your hypothesis of ID after the K/T boundary is falsified.

You have no exact copy of life both below and above the K.T. boundary.

You lecture me on reading up on ID and yet you can't even be bothered to check this single fact about species surviving across the K/T boundary. Try this for a summary of survivors
http://palaeo.gly.bris.ac.uk/communication/goddard/page1.html

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"No exact copy..."
Well let's consider the humble "Horsetail" or "Mare's tail" (Equisetum arvense). A somewhat strange plant, but it has survived from before the dinosaurs to this day. Very unpalatable I'm told, almost impossible to get rid of once in your garden (It took me ten years to get rid of a small patch in may back garden, and of no apparent use. This plant has endured much abuse by both man and nature, but is sill here, and still thriving.

But I suppose you were looking for an animal. The most obvious are the "small furry brown jobs" (mice, shrews, voles etc.) They came through the impact by being "born survivors", high reproductive rates, low metabolic demand and so on.

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Bob Smith
Member of Seti PIPPS (Pluto is a Planet Protest Society)
Somewhere in the (un)known Universe?

ID, you are making a straw man argument with your statement,

You have no proof. You have no proof we have evolved from gorillas.

No one ever said anything about evolving from gorillas. Putting words in others mouths is pretty low.

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ID, you are making a straw man argument with your statement,

You have no proof. You have no proof we have evolved from gorillas.

No one ever said anything about evolving from gorillas. Putting words in others mouths is pretty low.

"Brendon" wrote:

We have evolved from gorillas, but gorillas still exist...

You may retract your statement now.

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Must not conflict resolve by suggesting that someone should go sit on an ice pick...

ID, you are making a straw man argument with your statement,

You have no proof. You have no proof we have evolved from gorillas.

No one ever said anything about evolving from gorillas. Putting words in others mouths is pretty low.

"Brendon" wrote:

We have evolved from gorillas, but gorillas still exist...

You may retract your statement now.

Why that was never proven beyond any doubt.

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I'll turn this around for you all.

You all are so ingrained to believe that there is no design. I have shown you all many times the very design. You reject it for your government run indoctrination systems beliefs.

None of you will come out of this mold the system has created for you.

I was once a believer of neo-darwinism. What changed my mind is odds. If something cannot happen within the lifetime of the universe it will not happen. I have clearly seen with my own two designed eyes that none of you have bothered to talk about the math. I posted it and shut you down after that post.

Lets talk about that math shall we? I was overzealous in shutting you down on this, my apologies.....

Sorry, but you have provided no evidence for design, just philosophical arguments. And your statistical argument is wrong. Try to step away from this dogmatic belief in ID and ask yourself this question - Why would scientists have worked so hard since Darwin to deliberately promote an incorrect theory (evolution) and how would they have sustained such a conspiracy?

Do you have ANY proof of one species changing into another?

Yes, enough proof to be sure that evolution explains genetic diversity whereas ID explains nothing. But its pointless to show it to you since you immediately reject it. Your mind is closed to reasoned argument. Which raises the question of why I am wasting my time discussing this with you when I could be having a nice cold beer...

ID: How does your theory explain how we got from single cell organisms (about 3.2 billion years ago) to humans (about 100,000 years ago). How does ID give rise to all the intervening species over 3.5 billion years? Is each one created at a particular point in time? It would be good if you could add some details to help us understand how ID gives rise to the diverse range of organisms we see today (and in the fossil record). And please, no links. Just a brief explanation!

Please excuse me while I ponder why I have bothered to understand your point of view and yet you have not bothered to to understand mine. I have studied yours yet I am accused of not understanding yours. I have cracked many books about your line of thought and you haven't even bothered even a google search. Please excuse me while I ponder why.....

65 million years ago almost all life on this rock was destroyed. This wasn't the first time either. After this event, 65 million years ago, life was restarted. I say restarted because we cannot find an exact copy of one line after the K.T. boundary. This fact rejects the Neo-Darwinism line of thought of one cell changing into many forms of life.

Ponder the wild rose. That plant has been fostered into many colors and has little resemblance to the original plant, the wild rose. By design of man it is what it is today. You give one every year to your wife on Valentine's day.

You correctly say over 3 billion years life has been on the third rock from our sun. Yet a short 65 million years from almost nothing left of life we see the abundance of life we have today.

I'm real good at the game of poker. So good no one wants to play that game with me. I understand the odds and I can read people across the table from me. I count cards and project odds in my head.

You don't have that inside straight.

I call.....

I believe in many lines and the guiding hand of a Causal Agent, just like the wild rose.

The K/T boundary event (i.e. asteroid impact) did not leave almost no life. About 75% of species dissappear at the boundary, including dinosaurs etc. However, small mammals survived and went on to expand across the earth. Many species can be identfied on both sides of the K/T boundary. You should check the fossil record data before making such unsubstantiated claims. The disapperance of large predators at the K/T boundary allowed an explosion in life forms simply because of the complete transformation of the environment, which favored their survival. There is no evidence that someone came along and designed a new set of species, since we can see that they were already present before the K/T event. Therefore, your hypothesis of ID after the K/T boundary is falsified.

You have no exact copy of life both below and above the K.T. boundary.

You lecture me on reading up on ID and yet you can't even be bothered to check this single fact about species surviving across the K/T boundary. Try this for a summary of survivors
http://palaeo.gly.bris.ac.uk/communication/goddard/page1.html

Prove your faith in this subject.

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Must not conflict resolve by suggesting that someone should go sit on an ice pick...