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Message 1373436 - Posted: 30 May 2013, 10:53:09 UTC - in response to Message 1373434.  

Good idea. I changed because I ran out of GPU work and couldn't get any more. It may have been there but it wasn't landing here...so I flipped to v7.



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Message 1373439 - Posted: 30 May 2013, 11:00:38 UTC - in response to Message 1373436.  
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Oh for crying out loud.
After a huge amount of clicking retry & using a proxy, it stopped working. So i did away with the proxy, and then they started downloading by themselves.

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Message 1373441 - Posted: 30 May 2013, 11:02:13 UTC

Is there going to be an app_info file for the v7 and what do I need to do to get it. I am a novice when doing things like that
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Message 1373443 - Posted: 30 May 2013, 11:07:59 UTC - in response to Message 1373439.  

Oh for crying out loud.
After a huge amount of clicking retry & using a proxy, it stopped working. So i did away with the proxy, and then they started downloading by themselves.

*bangs head on desk*


flattening forehead and removing all wrinkles in the process ...

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Message 1373446 - Posted: 30 May 2013, 11:10:25 UTC - in response to Message 1373443.  

I wrote this elsewhere as well:

I just had a "cuda_opend_100" AP WU land on the box with the 295s. Is there a way to stop AP landing on this box ??
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Message 1373447 - Posted: 30 May 2013, 11:12:53 UTC - in response to Message 1373446.  

Just to note, some of the cuda50 WUs landing on the 295s are taking ~80 minutes to complete ...
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Message 1373448 - Posted: 30 May 2013, 11:12:58 UTC - in response to Message 1373441.  

Is there going to be an app_info file for the v7 and what do I need to do to get it. I am a novice when doing things like that

I suggest you wait for the installer we are working on.

If you really want to do it yourself all you need to know is:

<app>
<name>setiathome_v7</name>
</app>

and

<app_version>
<app_name>setiathome_v7</app_name>
<version_num>700</version_num>

the ati apps went out with higher version numbers, do check the app page.

AKv8b2 isn't v7 compatible!

I don't take any responsability for anybody trashing their cache and/or their tasks due to poor app_info.xml fiddling.
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Message 1373452 - Posted: 30 May 2013, 11:14:47 UTC - in response to Message 1373446.  

I wrote this elsewhere as well:

I just had a "cuda_opend_100" AP WU land on the box with the 295s. Is there a way to stop AP landing on this box ??

You can only opt out of AP altogether. If you want to opt out of AP for GPU _only_ you need an app_info.xml.
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Message 1373455 - Posted: 30 May 2013, 11:17:26 UTC - in response to Message 1373392.  

Is it possible to download the new optimized apps somewhere without the installer, i.e. just a zip file with all needed files inside, like it was possible before? Some of us don't need installers, that do more than it's actually needed...

Sure... but only for GPU apps. CUDA on Jason's site, OpenCL on Lunatics. All as separate packs.

I need CPU apps, no CUDA or OpenCL capable GPUs here. I wonder why they stopped distributing the CPU apps as separate packs, that was so much better (for some of us).

When we will have something to distribute there will be separate packs too.

Good. That was not the case with the "enhanced" apps, at least not recently, only installer.

When we have caught our colletive breath we plan to do packages with the full SIMD range.
Until then, when the installer is out, you can use 7z to extract single files out of the installer.exe

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Message 1373456 - Posted: 30 May 2013, 11:18:42 UTC - in response to Message 1373452.  


You can only opt out of AP altogether. If you want to opt out of AP for GPU _only_ you need an app_info.xml.


That's what I thought might be the case. I had AP running on the i7 3930K but not on the others. Oh well, just aborted the AP WU ...

If any more come through I'll just give them the same treatment ...

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Message 1373461 - Posted: 30 May 2013, 11:26:48 UTC - in response to Message 1373448.  

Thanks will probably wait for it as I am useless at doing things like that
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Message 1373492 - Posted: 30 May 2013, 13:36:56 UTC

Just converted my GTX460 cruncher back to stock and got my first 37 v7 tasks, one of which is happily crunching now.

Where is the app_config.xml file that I need to edit to run 2 WU at a time located? It does not appear to be in the projects/seti folder that app_info.xml was in.

If I need to create one from scratch can someone post one and advise what needs changing to adjust the number of WU's being run?
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Message 1373498 - Posted: 30 May 2013, 14:07:36 UTC - in response to Message 1373492.  

Just converted my GTX460 cruncher back to stock and got my first 37 v7 tasks, one of which is happily crunching now.

Where is the app_config.xml file that I need to edit to run 2 WU at a time located? It does not appear to be in the projects/seti folder that app_info.xml was in.

If I need to create one from scratch can someone post one and advise what needs changing to adjust the number of WU's being run?

You have to write it yourself: details are at the bottom of client configuration.

Now, if you'll excuse me, I've got an installer to write.
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Message 1373501 - Posted: 30 May 2013, 14:19:27 UTC - in response to Message 1373498.  

Just converted my GTX460 cruncher back to stock and got my first 37 v7 tasks, one of which is happily crunching now.

Where is the app_config.xml file that I need to edit to run 2 WU at a time located? It does not appear to be in the projects/seti folder that app_info.xml was in.

If I need to create one from scratch can someone post one and advise what needs changing to adjust the number of WU's being run?

You have to write it yourself: details are at the bottom of client configuration.

Now, if you'll excuse me, I've got an installer to write.

As the kitties are still running their beloved 6.10.58 Boinc, they shall have to be content just to get the new apps running until the installer is ready and they can go back to opti configuration.

Thank you for your efforts, Richard.
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Message 1373506 - Posted: 30 May 2013, 14:37:34 UTC - in response to Message 1373424.  

If everyone is failing to download, then there's a configuration problem and we'll have to wait for Eric.

If the problem only affects some people, then try to stop using any proxy you may have set up. If that fails, changing ISP would be a possible (but drastic) solution. Otherwise, we could try to set up a mirror download site, I suppose, if anyone has a host and can afford the bandwidth?

It would appear that some are having problems and others not.

Looks like we need an alternative route, then.

Usually, the apps Eric deploys here are identical to the most recent Beta apps - if my ISP lets me, I'll try to test out that theory. That gives one possible alternative source - if it checks out, I can post manual download links for people to try.

Final (I hope) displacement activity - unfortunately, the released apps are not identical to the Beta apps - that'll be the file-signing data, I expect. Although they'll work the same as the released files, they would be rejected as replacements for a stalled download because of the security checking that goes on.

If download problems persist, we'll have to find some other way round them - or did somebody mention an installer?
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Message 1373508 - Posted: 30 May 2013, 14:42:17 UTC - in response to Message 1373506.  

If everyone is failing to download, then there's a configuration problem and we'll have to wait for Eric.

If the problem only affects some people, then try to stop using any proxy you may have set up. If that fails, changing ISP would be a possible (but drastic) solution. Otherwise, we could try to set up a mirror download site, I suppose, if anyone has a host and can afford the bandwidth?

It would appear that some are having problems and others not.

Looks like we need an alternative route, then.

Usually, the apps Eric deploys here are identical to the most recent Beta apps - if my ISP lets me, I'll try to test out that theory. That gives one possible alternative source - if it checks out, I can post manual download links for people to try.

Final (I hope) displacement activity - unfortunately, the released apps are not identical to the Beta apps - that'll be the file-signing data, I expect. Although they'll work the same as the released files, they would be rejected as replacements for a stalled download because of the security checking that goes on.

If download problems persist, we'll have to find some other way round them - or did somebody mention an installer?

I cut 2 rigs over last night, and whilst I slept they eventually did get the app and related files downloaded.
Cut the other 7 over about an hour ago, and they are still struggling to get that info downloaded. Some comes through, and some fails immediately.
They'll get it sooner or later and commence with v7 crunching.

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Message 1373519 - Posted: 30 May 2013, 15:04:20 UTC - in response to Message 1373401.  

Before we switched to v7 we had a shorties storm, is that one still raging in v7?

Hadn't noticed anything before the outage.
Till i can get these executables to download no way of knowing myself- i doubt it as the splitters don't apear to be splitting much, and there's no ready-to-send buffer.

The Server Status Page section on Database/File Status does not yet reflect V7 task generation, only Enhanced V6, which are no longer being split. We saw the same thing when they rolled out Astropulse V6. Until almost all S@H V6 work is returned and validated, they will not change the display to reflect V7 production.
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Message 1373526 - Posted: 30 May 2013, 15:18:10 UTC - in response to Message 1373384.  

Is it possible to download the new optimized apps somewhere without the installer, i.e. just a zip file with all needed files inside, like it was possible before? Some of us don't need installers, that do more than it's actually needed...

Sure... but only for GPU apps. CUDA on Jason's site, OpenCL on Lunatics. All as separate packs.


AFAIK they dont contain V7 aistubs yet, no ?

you right. we need to change that.
For separate packs it's quite trivial task.


My site has updated the packages with new aistubs for x41zc users.
http://www.arkayn.us/forum/index.php

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Message 1373528 - Posted: 30 May 2013, 15:19:46 UTC

Coming back to:
IF v7 rolls out.....

Shouldn't this be AFTER?
Or SINCE?

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Message 1373529 - Posted: 30 May 2013, 15:20:58 UTC
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OK...I'll edit the thread title.
I could think of several more colorful ones than the one I shall post...LOL.
"Time is simply the mechanism that keeps everything from happening all at once."

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