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Message 1308295 - Posted: 21 Nov 2012, 10:18:51 UTC

It's a grand life being an MP.......

Abiding by the "rules"

Still abiding by the "rules"

One comment says it all about this country....

"How far down the food chain would you have to go to find an honest person?"


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Message 1308306 - Posted: 21 Nov 2012, 11:06:08 UTC

Another case highlighting how out of touch those in charge are....

MP's attack "bone-headed" ministers

Some lovely comments....

"Also Cameron, and whilst I'm pretty fired up about this failure on your part. If this pistol was sent home by his friends from where he left it, how the flipping hell did it get past your fancy security checks and into the country?"

"What a joke the poor guy didn't even pack his own kit and was locked up for something out of his hands. Just goes to show what a bunch of idiots this country has in certain positions of power. No doubt on his release he will be dishonourably discharged from the armed forces."


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Message 1308312 - Posted: 21 Nov 2012, 11:39:34 UTC - in response to Message 1308307.  

I do not defend any of the three people referred to. Certain practices may well be within the rules as they currently stand, and traditionally seen as accepted perks of the job. But, MP's need to decide for themselves whether or not they are morally acceptable to the public, who vote them in. But when large sums of money are involved, it obviously muddles their thinking.

My advice to any MP seeking re-election is to firstly clean up your act, if necessary, and secondly publish annually your full expenses accounts, so your constituents can see what you have claimed for. Sensible MP's already do this. Any MP can be de-selected by the local party at any time for mis-behaviour, and come the next elections in May 2015, some sitting MP's could have a very rude awakening.

The problem with this second housing malarkey is that the politician is able
to sell the property and pocket the profit. If they use their legally entitled
allowance to rent a property then this is fine. But if this allowance is used to
buy a property then upon selling they should hand back all the allowance they
used towards buying that property. This way both parties win, the property
seller if they make a gain and the tax payer too for getting all the allowance
paid back to the government....any other way then is to be seen as pure
profiteering at the tax payers expense...and at the moment the latter seems to
be what it's all about.


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Message 1308313 - Posted: 21 Nov 2012, 11:40:36 UTC - in response to Message 1308312.  

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Message 1308808 - Posted: 22 Nov 2012, 15:40:20 UTC

What a Chancellor!

Ozzie makes £400,000 profit

How so come you can't manage the country Ozzie boy?

"People across the country have been forced to bear the brunt of his economic failures and brutal cuts. They will be disgusted by George Osborne’s greed,’ he told the Mirror."

Did She, or Didn't She - that is the question!

One comment does raise an interesting question though.......

"Odd how she can set up an office in a hotel room yet MPs have to have taxpayer-funded houses or flats in order to cope with work when they are in London. Surely if she has enough room and facilities in a hotel room, they should be able to manage with the same facilities and space here?"


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Message 1309763 - Posted: 24 Nov 2012, 13:47:27 UTC

National politics has travelled far in the history of the UK, with many good moments as well as bad ones.

Unfortunately in today's "get rich quick" climate, many within government are too busy with their snouts in the troughs, that they fail to notice that local government is getting more sinister by the day.....
...another case in point:

Foster Children removed from foster parents due to their political convictions

Didn't issues of this kind make world news in 1933?

What next? Arrested for looking at a copper the "wrong way"?
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Message 1309876 - Posted: 24 Nov 2012, 18:40:17 UTC - in response to Message 1309797.  


What is at fault here are two bit jobsworth, compensation culture, lawyers that would bring such a case, and out of touch and past it judges that would uphold it.


Why thank you for chastising in one breath & then confirming my views with another (if you can't see them, Specsavers could be a good idea).

History Lesson No 1

History Lesson No 2

"Cometh the hour, cometh the man". Both Churchill and Thatcher were the right person, in the right place, at the right time. It's only happened twice in the last 70 years, but sadly it's not happening again just yet.


A touch contradictory to your 1930's fixation, don't you think? Or have you forgotten you wrote that?

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Message 1310127 - Posted: 25 Nov 2012, 11:04:51 UTC

In these days of austerity, its about time that foreign aid in cash ends.

You want aid? OK, we'll send you machinery, food, medical supplies etc, but no cash!

Did foreign aid assist with this?
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Message 1310418 - Posted: 26 Nov 2012, 7:33:13 UTC

Tories running scared?

Many have run them down, but when the party itself sees its members leaving & joinging the "enemy", it surely suggests something.

Does Del-boy really think the electorate is that stupid? Continuously stating that he'll give us a referendum after the next election while at the same time, holding this view: -

"The prime minister has committed to seeking what he called "fresh consent" in a national vote but he has so far resisted the idea of an in/out referendum."

Hey Del-boy, can you expain what you mean by "fresh consent"?
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Message 1310445 - Posted: 26 Nov 2012, 10:43:34 UTC - in response to Message 1310441.  

Can you give us one of those reasons?

Also, you're giving too much credit to the media. There are many out there who know what remaining in the EU means & have known that for a hell of a long time.

As for running the country, they don't seem to be doing a great job of it!

As for delaying the referendum, are you out of your mind? Just how many times has it been promised & yet fail to occur? Do you really think Cameron will give it to us in 2015?

If you believe the answer is yes, then I have several national monuments to sell to you!

Bear this in mind for the next time you defend politicians: -

“A constitution is the property of a nation, and not those who exercise government

Sedition is any act designed to subvert the constitution. High Treason is any act designed to betray the Sovereign, constitution and people of England."



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Message 1310553 - Posted: 26 Nov 2012, 18:59:21 UTC

“A constitution is the property of a nation, and not those who exercise government

Sedition is any act designed to subvert the constitution. High Treason is any act designed to betray the Sovereign, constitution and people of England."

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Message 1310627 - Posted: 26 Nov 2012, 23:56:56 UTC - in response to Message 1310603.  

I see you didn't remark on the constitution... I wonder why?

Ooops looks like you do need to visit specsavers, Guy Fawkes, where is he?

Oh dear, it seems that only you can use links for your own purposes & anyone else is chastised...tut tut tut.

So the scandals of 2012 never happened then?

Banks didn't get any bailouts, phone hacking never happened, the armed forces never provided security for the Olympics, MP's never fiddled their expenses, Lord Snooty's never called those beneath them, Plebs, HMRC never did "under the table" deals with large corporations, government Ministers never did any turn-arounds.

Lovely elected democratic pigs we have in charge of us ( there you go, not a muppet in sight).
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Message 1310645 - Posted: 27 Nov 2012, 0:53:09 UTC - in response to Message 1310638.  

Non, mon ami, I rest my case. You continue to avoid answering the questions posed & take delight in knocking me down.

That's not a problem as it just confirms that your getting just like politicians, knock the questioner when caught with a valid question that they do not have an answer for!

So I'll repeat the question: -

Your comments on the constitution: The UK governments since entry into the EEC/EU haven't changed the constitution to suit themselves?

One of the constitutional principles is that: - "Our Kings can never be vassal Kings to any one."

So, "When John Major came back from Maastricht and said the Queen was now a citizen of Europe, he attempted to destroy a constitutional principle, that our Kings can never be vassal Kings to any one. In so doing John Major committed the Major Crime of High Treason."

It's plainly obvious that I'm anti EU & FYI, always have been. You seem to be a confirmed Europhile, got the courage to admit it?


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Message 1310863 - Posted: 27 Nov 2012, 22:40:42 UTC - in response to Message 1310728.  

I don't know where you got the Vassal Kings quote from.


Try looking up 1366 & Edward III.
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Message 1310973 - Posted: 28 Nov 2012, 10:18:01 UTC - in response to Message 1310971.  

I did, and all I found was the Statute of Labourers and the Treason Act in 1351, and the Peasants Revolt of 1381.

England

You continue to avoid answering the questions posed

"Quite what links you have to Canada we will await with baited breath to learn."

Not answering then?



Start answering questions & leave personal issues out. It's none of your concern.
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Message 1310980 - Posted: 28 Nov 2012, 11:05:18 UTC
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1351: Statute of Treason, Provisors, and Praemunire, anti Papal laws designed to keep foreign interference out of England.

1392: Statute of Praemunire, breaches of which amounted to High Treason. It's quite a coincidence that this one was repealed by the Criminal Law Act 1967, just in time to prevent Edward Heath & his government committing High Treason.

When the Law Commission was asked as to why that particular law was repealed, all they could come up with was: -

"The law had not been used for many years and so they inferred it was obsolete. Yet the principle of obsolescence of a law is unknown in English law. Who is to say it had not been used because, like all law it is designed to prevent crime? In preventing crimes which were treasonable King Richards Statute had worked very well."

Interesting that all governments since have changed laws that protected England for 100's of years & leave us wide open for abuse from the EU.....

...one immediately comes to mind.....

..ECHR!

Edit: & talking of the Law Commission, seems they've got their hands full with this one.....Good luck to them.......

Contempt Laws under review

...nice can of worms!
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Message 1311362 - Posted: 5 Dec 2012, 18:24:22 UTC

Meddling again....

..Do they really know what they're doing?

Pension Tax Relief cut again
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Message 1311589 - Posted: 6 Dec 2012, 1:10:30 UTC

They do know what they are doing, but there may be unintended concequences. Just as Gordon Brown knew when he stopped the tax allownaces of private pensions way back during 1997-1999, when he raised the first of his many stealth taxes.
It's good to be back amongst friends and colleagues



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Message 1311850 - Posted: 6 Dec 2012, 18:22:37 UTC - in response to Message 1311710.  

If Labour were in government they would have to be doing much the same thing.


...and had Labour not been in power during the 2000's we might not have had to
take this measure in the first place.

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Message 1312516 - Posted: 8 Dec 2012, 11:49:33 UTC

Ooops, looks like Britain in the wars again....

Del-boy wants the UK to have high speed broadband throughout the country......

The Government's reply

....& the state of the Union?

All this over the Union Jack

...seems like the EU getting what they want....

"There have been protests since Monday when Belfast City Council voted to fly the union flag on designated days only."
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