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Johnney Guinness Send message Joined: 11 Sep 06 Posts: 3093 Credit: 2,652,287 RAC: 0 |
That has always been postulated Robert, that if there were ET visitations in the past then apart from the locals trying to record that for posterity, you would think that they would leave some sort of message that would only be found when that society was sufficiently advanced to recognise it. Sarge, What are you talking about? I never said king tut was not found. I said the Pharaohs, including king tut were all burried in the valley of the kings, which is where king tut was found. King Tut was not burried in a pyramid. And no, i never claimed that nobody entered the pyramids before 1900. Don't know where you got that from. Are you confusing me with some other post your read? John. |
Johnney Guinness Send message Joined: 11 Sep 06 Posts: 3093 Credit: 2,652,287 RAC: 0 |
Writing the bible would make ET a liar. Renee why do you say that? John. |
OzzFan Send message Joined: 9 Apr 02 Posts: 15691 Credit: 84,761,841 RAC: 28 |
I do agree with Johnney and think that there is enough evidence to give some credence to the possibility that ET was here in the past. I think that maybe the last time was about 11,000-14,000 BC and maybe millions of years before that as well. Apparently there are genuine ribbed sole imprints in coal seams millions of years old. But most certainly they were not here 4004BC genetically engineering mankind. Those sole imprints have been thoroughly debunked and regarded as hoaxes or simply bad archaeology. A ‘footprint’ from the Gobi Desert The Fisher Canyon ‘footprint’ The Antelope Springs ‘footprint’ Johnney asserts that Einstein was completely wrong and that he knows better. He says that black holes don't exist. He says there is no such thing as dark matter. He says that he has researched all this, teaching himself, without a basic uni degree or a PhD, and that scientists are making fundamental mistakes. How likely is it that some non-scientist guy from rural Ireland can be right and the whole of the rest of the world be wrong? Well, because he sez so! He doesn't have to provide evidence for his claims because God told him so! Millions of sophisticated, intelligent people are wrong because Johnney has it all figured out, and he'll reveal it in the next few years. All you have to do is just tell everyone that what they think they know is wrong, and repeat it several times until you've convinced even yourself that you have it right. Eventually the gullible and naive will follow. Its about to happen in the next few years. No, he's tried to get published in official rags. He's not the first loon that's tried to get their religion - I mean scientific findings published in a scientific rag. Those elitist scientists rejected his work because he doesn't show a measurable expertise in his field of study, of which he claims he has, and why would he lie? Certainly he's not allowed himself to be misled! So what is it? All of the above. |
bobby Send message Joined: 22 Mar 02 Posts: 2866 Credit: 17,789,109 RAC: 3 |
I said the Pharaohs, including king tut were all burried in the valley of the kings, which is where king tut was found. King Tut was not burried in a pyramid. Are you adding archaeology to the list of subjects that you profess to have a deep understanding? During what era(s) were the pyramids built? During what era(s) were Pharaohs entombed in the Valley of the Kings? I think you'll find it's a bit more complicated than that ... |
Johnney Guinness Send message Joined: 11 Sep 06 Posts: 3093 Credit: 2,652,287 RAC: 0 |
Chris, I enjoyed reading that post. I will read it again because it was good. I might read it a few times. Its nice to get some real prospective on the way you think! I cant reply to all the points or i would be writing all day. Chris that paragraph above, i'm just singling that one out. Its funny Chris, it does seem really really unlikely that some very ordinary guy you met on an alien hunting forum would have made the discoveries i claim to have made. Doesn't it? It sounds like complete madness? To such an extent, the only reasonable conclusion you could draw is that Johnney Guinness is a bit of a lunatic. If Johnney Guinness is a lunatic, then everything makes sense! You could put the whole lots down to madness! Think about it; 1. I claim to have an "old book" or "old books" written by the hand of God himself. 2. I claim to have solved ALL of the unsolved problems in physics and astronomy in one fowl swoop. But!! there is something i have not discussed here before that explains all this; Its possible, but i have no proof yet, that someone, or something, "external" to me is influencing the way i think. Its possible "someone" is "giving" me this information. But i have no proof of this. Its just a feeling. I feel like i am be influenced by someone that i cannot see. Someone is "guiding me" to find the right answers as i do the research. Its either that, or i'm very very clever. And i think i'm pretty average intelligence. John. |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24879 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
Sorry John, I think you need to buy a large container of tinfoil! |
OzzFan Send message Joined: 9 Apr 02 Posts: 15691 Credit: 84,761,841 RAC: 28 |
Its possible, but i have no proof yet, that someone, or something, "external" to me is influencing the way i think. Its possible "someone" is "giving" me this information. But i have no proof of this. Its just a feeling. I feel like i am be influenced by someone that i cannot see. Someone is "guiding me" to find the right answers as i do the research. Its either that, or i'm very very clever. And i think i'm pretty average intelligence. Yes, that something is called confirmation bias. You've researched what you want to know by making the data fit your conclusions. Based upon your preachings and your assertions, I see little difference between you and Harold Camping, other than you've thrown in a bit of alien conspiracy too. |
Johnney Guinness Send message Joined: 11 Sep 06 Posts: 3093 Credit: 2,652,287 RAC: 0 |
Sorry John, I think you need to buy a large container of tinfoil! Sirius, Its ok, i have my hat made :) John :) |
Johnney Guinness Send message Joined: 11 Sep 06 Posts: 3093 Credit: 2,652,287 RAC: 0 |
Its possible, but i have no proof yet, that someone, or something, "external" to me is influencing the way i think. Its possible "someone" is "giving" me this information. But i have no proof of this. Its just a feeling. I feel like i am be influenced by someone that i cannot see. Someone is "guiding me" to find the right answers as i do the research. Its either that, or i'm very very clever. And i think i'm pretty average intelligence. Comon Ozzfan, I'm trying to spice up the story to keep you guys interested! John :) |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24879 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
Sorry John, I think you need to buy a large container of tinfoil! Well be careful touching that equipment...remember what happened to Johnny 5! |
kittyman Send message Joined: 9 Jul 00 Posts: 51468 Credit: 1,018,363,574 RAC: 1,004 |
Hmm....... It seems that God made my soul conform to what His bible said. Or, was it the other way around, as some of you ponder? I think it was my soul that found it's way, not the Good Book. It was always there for my perusal. I guess I just always found enough references on the net from folks dissing it that I never had to pick up a hard copy. God understands that. Moses understood that. Mel Brooks sure as hell understood it, and that's why his bit was such a hoot. Even the avowed Godless Carlin knew about the commandments...... George's list......He whittled it down to two, plus an amendment. And if in fact you forgot Mel's take........... YES, I hear you, a deaf man could hear you........ "Freedom is just Chaos, with better lighting." Alan Dean Foster |
Johnney Guinness Send message Joined: 11 Sep 06 Posts: 3093 Credit: 2,652,287 RAC: 0 |
@Ozzfan - I have called his bluff - we will see ..... Chris, How have you called my bluff? John. |
kittyman Send message Joined: 9 Jul 00 Posts: 51468 Credit: 1,018,363,574 RAC: 1,004 |
@Ozzfan - I have called his bluff - we will see ..... He called him Blurf? "Freedom is just Chaos, with better lighting." Alan Dean Foster |
Intelligent Design Send message Joined: 9 Apr 12 Posts: 3626 Credit: 37,520 RAC: 0 |
The cosmos is very big and space is very empty, so the probability of making contact with an ET is very remote. Isn't it.......... Then there is the question of who made who that I WILL always come back to. The First Mover had to have made the Universe. Since it would appear that we are the only ones who occupy this verse who made us? Life is also not by chance. Prove it and I'll eat that tinfoil hat. Prove multiverses and I'll eat that tinfoil hat. |
OzzFan Send message Joined: 9 Apr 02 Posts: 15691 Credit: 84,761,841 RAC: 28 |
Then there is the question of who made who that I WILL always come back to. The First Mover had to have made the Universe. Since it would appear that we are the only ones who occupy this verse who made us? Again, you lack an understanding of the scientific process. There must be evidence of this 'Mover' before we can attribute life to it. Until then, chance is the only explanation that doesn't require belief in a hypothesis without evidence. And again, you've already provided the odds that however remote, there is a chance that it can happen. |
Johnney Guinness Send message Joined: 11 Sep 06 Posts: 3093 Credit: 2,652,287 RAC: 0 |
Chris, I done it already Chris :) Back in the early 1990's, i made my first trip to London. On my first night in a city i wasn't familiar with, me and my mate went to the pub to meet other friends that we were supposed to stay with. Well the other friends never turned up so me and my mate went out drinking and night-clubbing anyway. We ended up with two Spanish girls and we had no choice but to sleep rough near Hyde Park Corner. So i did some preaching with the Spanish girl, but we weren't discussing God :) John. |
kittyman Send message Joined: 9 Jul 00 Posts: 51468 Credit: 1,018,363,574 RAC: 1,004 |
You spoke Spanish?Chris, Something tells me you might have been speaking a little French. I have been known to be a bit bilingual myself at times. "Freedom is just Chaos, with better lighting." Alan Dean Foster |
Johnney Guinness Send message Joined: 11 Sep 06 Posts: 3093 Credit: 2,652,287 RAC: 0 |
You spoke Spanish?Chris, I spoke gibberish Mark, i was drunk! John. |
bobby Send message Joined: 22 Mar 02 Posts: 2866 Credit: 17,789,109 RAC: 3 |
I spoke gibberish Mark. Surely the word is "speak" rather than "spoke"? I think you'll find it's a bit more complicated than that ... |
Johnney Guinness Send message Joined: 11 Sep 06 Posts: 3093 Credit: 2,652,287 RAC: 0 |
Interesting story Chris. Thanks for the link! John. |
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