When many, many crunchers found that a rescheduler was needed, one was developed. Then another. More and more work was being rescheduled from the GPU's to the CPU's and was common knowledge.

In short....NOT one person......Many people and then the project addressed the problem. (after it went on for far too long)

I meant it differently..

O.K., but yours started also with only one person, no?

;-)


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Still rolling......
Sutaru, 'WE' have no power but the power of our collective crunching prowess.

What you have to realize is, DA seldom gives much heed to the very, very, few of us who vocalize on these boards. I would not say never, but seldom.
And he certainly is not gonna rewrite code unless it busts something across the wide range of Boinc projects that every code rewrite affects.
And most have not even dealt with 'creditnew' yet.

He has his own agenda and principals to deal with, and I, for one, have come to respect that.
He got us this far, and I am not gonna complain much about credits......they are really superficial to the project.

I do luv my creds, I really do. But I'm not about to complain about the fact that certain AR WUs seem to be very underperforming these days in terms of credit. Because my creds are the same as your creds. At least here on Seti.
That's the reason, my friend, that I am so proud of my Seti creds. They are not some bogus 3x the going rate creds that some other projects seem to be handing out these days.

So, when some guy boasts about doing a million a day crunching project XYZ, I just laugh at the (add your own expletive here).

I couldn't agree more. I tried crunching another project once. Just wasn't my thing. In the end it's all artificial inflation and as long as everyone is receiving credits on the same scale so we can judge the better parts and configurations it doesn't even matter. At the end of the day I'll eat my soylent green and drink my slurm and be happy. (love that show)

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Still rolling......
Sutaru, 'WE' have no power but the power of our collective crunching prowess.

What you have to realize is, DA seldom gives much heed to the very, very, few of us who vocalize on these boards. I would not say never, but seldom.
And he certainly is not gonna rewrite code unless it busts something across the wide range of Boinc projects that every code rewrite affects.
And most have not even dealt with 'creditnew' yet.

He has his own agenda and principals to deal with, and I, for one, have come to respect that.
He got us this far, and I am not gonna complain much about credits......they are really superficial to the project.

I do luv my creds, I really do. But I'm not about to complain about the fact that certain AR WUs seem to be very underperforming these days in terms of credit. Because my creds are the same as your creds. At least here on Seti.
That's the reason, my friend, that I am so proud of my Seti creds. They are not some bogus 3x the going rate creds that some other projects seem to be handing out these days.

So, when some guy boasts about doing a million a day crunching project XYZ, I just laugh at the (add your own expletive here).

To now I don't know one who understand 'CreditNew'.

I don't complain.

I write only this what all think.. ;-)

I don't understand at all, why same ARs have a so big vary in granted Cr.

In past we knew, AR x = x Cr.
Now e.g. (I saw) for AR 0.44x = ~ 40 to ~ 200 Cr.


[EDIT: Ahh yes.. I saw also AP results with ~ 400 to ~ 2,500 Cr.]


- Best regards! - Sutaru Tsureku, team seti.international founder. - Optimize your PC for higher RAC. - SETI@home needs your help. -

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To now I don't know one who understand 'CreditNew'.

I don't complain.

I write only this what all think.. ;-)

I don't understand at all, why same ARs have a so big vary in granted Cr.

In past we knew, AR x = x Cr.
Now e.g. (I saw) for AR 0.44x = ~ 40 to ~ 200 Cr.


- Best regards! - Sutaru Tsureku, team seti.international founder. - Optimize your PC for higher RAC. - SETI@home needs your help. -

From my limited understanding and from what I've seen it bases the credit on the fastest partner in the group then it normalizes the credit given based off past credits granted for the same amount of time. However this is an extremely rudimentary understanding. So in essence over time with more results given we should know within pretty close approximation how many credits we will receive based off time taken to process. Granted everyone's machine always change as well as partners, but I believe it will tighten up over the course of time.

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I couldn't agree more. I tried crunching another project once. Just wasn't my thing. In the end it's all artificial inflation and as long as everyone is receiving credits on the same scale so we can judge the better parts and configurations it doesn't even matter. At the end of the day I'll eat my soylent green and drink my slurm and be happy. (love that show)

Aw hell, when it really comes down to it, if they granted 1 credit per WU completed, we'd still be able to compare what work has been done by one cruncher VS another, wouldn't we now?
I'd be OK with that.
It's just an arbitrary number.

1 cred per WU.
1,000,000 creds per WU.
1 cred per flop.
Don't matter.

As long as I can get a read on what I do here compared to other participants, it's all good.

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Sutaru -"I write only this what all think.. ;-)"

No, I don't think that at all.

As a matter of fact, as far as I'm concerned, "They"
could stop issuing credits altogether. That would
fix some problems.

Noooooooo, they can't stop the credits, I haven't got my toaster yet!!!!

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Noooooooo, they can't stop the credits, I haven't got my toaster yet!!!!

Have been saving green stamps for almost 10 years........
As Joplin said, I wait for delivery evry day until 3.
Oh, Lord won't ya send that toaster to me................................

That's it.....LOL.

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"Freedom is just Chaos, with better lighting." Alan Dean Foster

Noooooooo, they can't stop the credits, I haven't got my toaster yet!!!!

Oddly enough I do need a new toaster. So I am going to cash in my point to get my free toaster*.

*Toaster not included. S&H charges may apply. Offer VOID at all times.

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Noooooooo, they can't stop the credits, I haven't got my toaster yet!!!!

Have been saving green stamps for almost 10 years........
As Joplin said, I wait for delivery evry day until 3.
Oh, Lord won't ya send that toaster to me................................

That's it.....LOL.

Bah, I don't care about any toaster. All I'm interested in right now, is for that third AP validator to come online and start validating. Heck not one AP have been validated for about 2 days now, and my RAC is dropping like a stone on the computer that's AP only.

Fix this within the next 10-20 years, or I'm leaving this project. :-)

Damn, but you're rather liberal.

I'll only wait around for the next 5 years or more.
Each day until 3.

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You should check in for the Friday night pun session in the cafe....LOL.

Been there, done that. ;^)

No toaster, thanks... too darn hot!

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Noooooooo, they can't stop the credits, I haven't got my toaster yet!!!!

Have been saving green stamps for almost 10 years........
As Joplin said, I wait for delivery evry day until 3.
Oh, Lord won't ya send that toaster to me................................

That's it.....LOL.

According to some of your power bills you have talked about here I'm thinking you should be trading in those 'green stamps' for carbon credits. ;)

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my feet feel toasty warm because of this computers heat output. i sometimes use the power supply fan outlet as a food warmer.

just got back into seti and waiting for my rac to climb and building new rigs is fun. ive been away for a year or 2

Wingmen, and wing women are as fast, or slow, as their random distribution of performance. Given that there are far more slow crunchers around than fast ones the chances of getting a slow one are quite high. Just sit tight, wait, everything will get validated, you've done your part by getting the results back inside the schedule, so its someone eles's job now.

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Member of Seti PIPPS (Pluto is a Planet Protest Society)
Somewhere in the (un)known Universe?

Most of Seti@nl users have fast computers
normally I have more then 5000 credits but now
half of it :( I never had this before.

By credits do you man RAC?

For you right now:
Credit: 401,043
RAC: 5,162

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*ARGH*

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new behavior for SETI@home Enhanced?
got -0.06 Credits for 4,539.72 CPU Time (yes, there is a minus before the Credit)
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/workunit.php?wuid=785199775

My Wingman uses SETI@home Enhanced v6.10 (cuda_fermi) and has lot of these results
Astropulse v505 has normal Credits

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Matthias

new behavior for SETI@home Enhanced?
got -0.06 Credits for 4,539.72 CPU Time (yes, there is a minus before the Credit)
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/workunit.php?wuid=785199775

My Wingman uses SETI@home Enhanced v6.10 (cuda_fermi) and has lot of these results
Astropulse v505 has normal Credits

Hmmmmmm...
Did not know that CreditNew could 'award' debits....
Uhhh, DA, are you watching this?

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Even though your wing man is showing as anonymous, my guess is he's a beta tester since he is showing as running version 6.13.0 which is a new version not released to the public yet. Probably a problem with how it scores that I'm sure they are fixing.

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new behavior for SETI@home Enhanced?
got -0.06 Credits for 4,539.72 CPU Time (yes, there is a minus before the Credit)
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/workunit.php?wuid=785199775

My Wingman uses SETI@home Enhanced v6.10 (cuda_fermi) and has lot of these results
Astropulse v505 has normal Credits

That machine has 1 task from the 14th that was given about 100 credits while they were using 6.13.0. After that they are all negative credit. At least they are only very small negative with "-0.26" the largest value I found.
Perhaps this has shown an issue with the credit new system.

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