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Message 1119540 - Posted: 21 Jun 2011, 0:03:59 UTC - in response to Message 1119533.  

Hello PerryJay,

i have to "Push" Uploads by "Try again" Button. Boinc Software does not send ready Packages automatic to Seti Server.
Greets Gerhard



The servers are still very busy and it is hard to get uploads through. It will probably be this way for at least a day or two. Especially since tomorrow is maintenance day. Your uploads should start going through on there own before long.


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Message 1119710 - Posted: 21 Jun 2011, 14:15:27 UTC

We all know the limitations of the connections to the servers, until the university change this is or SETI is "outsourced" to a better connection, then problems will occur. I don't care about RAC, I care about being part of a project that may ultimately make a difference to everyone on this planet. The question of "are we alone?"

I dont have the resources to be able to make a mega-cruncher machine, so am happy with what I can do on my resources available, crunching away 24/7 and if I run out of work, ah well.

The point being, things do get sorted at some point, the guys know what needs to be done but they are also busy doing other stuff, that probably 99.9% of us will never see/ know about behind the scenes.

If Matt is busy with his music career over summer and doesn't post then that is his choice, updates about his music career perhaps in Cafe Seti would take our minds off any problems. Some of the pictures Matt has posted of his hiking vacations have been spectacular scenery and well worth looking at.
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Message 1119902 - Posted: 22 Jun 2011, 5:25:48 UTC

So the all important Kepler data sits in a box being "pre-processed and crudley analyzed?

It seems priorities are akilter in SETI's lab. I'm sorry so little funding is allocated and that the staff is but part time. Recommend they focus sharply and perhaps allow volunteer's to write stuff up with a a daily tech brief to the chosen authors. This would releive the staff from the tedium of keeping the people who are processing the data for the project informed as to what's about..

Let's load up the KEPLER data and process it and put the other stuff on the back burner for later.

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Message 1119933 - Posted: 22 Jun 2011, 9:24:55 UTC - in response to Message 1119507.  
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Hi all,

the last days are really boring. The upload does not function and if it works a lot of my Results are lost anywhere in the Net. My Computers are running all Day and Night. But there is no raise in Points. I hope Seti will soon solve this problem.
Greets Gerhard


Nothing is lost in the Inet. ;-)

If BOINC ULed successful a result it's on the main database.

Currently the replica database is offline, from there the hosts/WUs/results lists are shown/updated.

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Message 1119982 - Posted: 22 Jun 2011, 13:27:30 UTC

The cricket graph again shows that the upload server is down. The status page shows it up.
I agree that the SETI staff should let a volunteer write the system status to keep the volunteer crunchers informed.
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Message 1119992 - Posted: 22 Jun 2011, 13:39:26 UTC

[quote}I'll give Eric a call right away. I'm sure he'll be delighted to hear that there are in fact intelligent lifeforms installing BOINC and crunching data and not the robotic pirate super squirrels he previously theorized.[/quote]


You got something against us robotic pirate super squirrels?!?!
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Message 1120009 - Posted: 22 Jun 2011, 14:20:45 UTC - in response to Message 1119982.  
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The cricket graph again shows that the upload server is down. The status page shows it up.
I agree that the SETI staff should let a volunteer write the system status to keep the volunteer crunchers informed.

The SETI staff is lucky that some volunteer crunchers keep reminding other volunteer crunchers that there's a "use-by date" on the server status page.

AND PLEASE STOP POSTING ON A MONTH-OLD NEWS THREAD!!

Sorry for shouting, but it starts getting really annoying that the posts have nothing to do with the topic of the thread.

Gruß,
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Message 1120082 - Posted: 22 Jun 2011, 17:50:26 UTC - in response to Message 1120009.  

AND PLEASE STOP POSTING ON A MONTH-OLD NEWS THREAD!!

Sorry for shouting, but it starts getting really annoying that the posts have nothing to do with the topic of the thread.


Well, Gundolf, it looks like the posters simply check for the latest time noted for a comment on a likely thread. Ahh..., as I do. However, I tend to restrain myself from commenting and just read about the problems others are having. (And usually only when I am suffering problems on my end.) This lets me know that SETI has had some glitches and I'm not alone with being unable to upload, D/L, and so forth. Misery does love company, after all. LOL! I do agree with you that it's better to choose the appropriate board for the subject if one wishes to actually make a comment.

However, if SETI has a long enough downtime, I hope the crunchers will contribute to the other, worthwhile, distributed computing projects like Einstein, Climate, or whatever science project piques their interest.

It's my personal feeling that if more cycles were spread out with other projects, SETI wouldn't be as overloaded. And if one only desires to participate in a single project I recommend not with LHC. ;-P

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Message 1120093 - Posted: 22 Jun 2011, 18:03:08 UTC - in response to Message 1120009.  
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The cricket graph again shows that the upload server is down. The status page shows it up.
I agree that the SETI staff should let a volunteer write the system status to keep the volunteer crunchers informed.

The SETI staff is lucky that some volunteer crunchers keep reminding other volunteer crunchers that there's a "use-by date" on the server status page.

AND PLEASE STOP POSTING ON A MONTH-OLD NEWS THREAD!!

Sorry for shouting, but it starts getting really annoying that the posts have nothing to do with the topic of the thread.

Gruß,
Gundolf

Maybe if we ask nicely (or start using the red-x), the MODs will police the NEWS and TECH NEWS forums a little more strictly, and move some of the off-topic posts to the appropriate threads in Number Crunching (8{)
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Message 1120095 - Posted: 22 Jun 2011, 18:07:06 UTC - in response to Message 1120093.  
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Maybe if we ask nicely (or start using the red-x), the MODs will police the NEWS and TECH NEWS forums a little more strictly, and move some of the off-topic posts to the appropriate threads in Number Crunching (8{)

Motion seconded.
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Message 1120151 - Posted: 22 Jun 2011, 20:19:14 UTC - in response to Message 1120009.  

The cricket graph again shows that the upload server is down. The status page shows it up.
I agree that the SETI staff should let a volunteer write the system status to keep the volunteer crunchers informed.

The SETI staff is lucky that some volunteer crunchers keep reminding other volunteer crunchers that there's a "use-by date" on the server status page.

AND PLEASE STOP POSTING ON A MONTH-OLD NEWS THREAD!!

Sorry for shouting, but it starts getting really annoying that the posts have nothing to do with the topic of the thread.

Gruß,
Gundolf

Actually an 8 day old news thread started on 14 June
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Message 1120171 - Posted: 22 Jun 2011, 21:08:56 UTC - in response to Message 1120151.  

Actually an 8 day old news thread started on 14 June

Oops

I had just been reading "storage service is back up", which is almost a month old.

Nevertheless, I think my complaint adequate for both threads.

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Message 1120458 - Posted: 23 Jun 2011, 15:51:53 UTC - in response to Message 1120151.  

The cricket graph again shows that the upload server is down. The status page shows it up.
I agree that the SETI staff should let a volunteer write the system status to keep the volunteer crunchers informed.

The SETI staff is lucky that some volunteer crunchers keep reminding other volunteer crunchers that there's a "use-by date" on the server status page.

AND PLEASE STOP POSTING ON A MONTH-OLD NEWS THREAD!!

Sorry for shouting, but it starts getting really annoying that the posts have nothing to do with the topic of the thread.

Gruß,
Gundolf

Actually an 8 day old news thread started on 14 June


...And the latest thread in "Tech News", and therefore the thread most likely to be read by the Staff...

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Message 1120543 - Posted: 23 Jun 2011, 18:39:29 UTC

Well Matt, it looks like you got a pretty hardcore fanbase goin' here. I just hope your other groupies are better looking than this lot;)
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Message 1120555 - Posted: 23 Jun 2011, 19:11:28 UTC

Sticking to technical news to at least some degree, I notice over the past 2 days the cricket is giving an unusual pattern showing a moment of 'downtime' after regular periods, say every 2 hours. What's causing this?
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Message 1120797 - Posted: 24 Jun 2011, 9:03:32 UTC - in response to Message 1120093.  

The cricket graph again shows that the upload server is down. The status page shows it up.
I agree that the SETI staff should let a volunteer write the system status to keep the volunteer crunchers informed.

The SETI staff is lucky that some volunteer crunchers keep reminding other volunteer crunchers that there's a "use-by date" on the server status page.

AND PLEASE STOP POSTING ON A MONTH-OLD NEWS THREAD!!

Sorry for shouting, but it starts getting really annoying that the posts have nothing to do with the topic of the thread.

Gruß,
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Maybe if we ask nicely (or start using the red-x), the MODs will police the NEWS and TECH NEWS forums a little more strictly, and move some of the off-topic posts to the appropriate threads in Number Crunching (8{)

I think the staff are reading these posts and do their own cleanup. You are welcome to use the red x thou.
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Message 1120864 - Posted: 24 Jun 2011, 14:02:56 UTC - in response to Message 1120555.  

Sticking to technical news to at least some degree, I notice over the past 2 days the cricket is giving an unusual pattern showing a moment of 'downtime' after regular periods, say every 2 hours. What's causing this?

For whatever reasons, the splitters seem to be unable to work fast enough to maintain a 'ready to send' cache. So at times, there is little work going out.
Thus, the 'feathering' seen on the Cricket graph.
"Time is simply the mechanism that keeps everything from happening all at once."

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Message 1121004 - Posted: 24 Jun 2011, 17:56:42 UTC - in response to Message 1120864.  


For whatever reasons, the splitters seem to be unable to work fast enough to maintain a 'ready to send' cache. So at times, there is little work going out.
Thus, the 'feathering' seen on the Cricket graph.


Yes but look at the in progress graph on the server graphs page, the last 96 Hrs graph shows a steady increase with no fluctuations, the slope of the graph seems to be as steep as when the pipe has been maxed.

Is the pipe able to handle this load easier than being maxed with all the network problems.

If everyone is getting some work does it matter if us faster users take a little bit longer to fill our caches to our prefured levels?


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Message 1121016 - Posted: 24 Jun 2011, 18:07:41 UTC - in response to Message 1121004.  


For whatever reasons, the splitters seem to be unable to work fast enough to maintain a 'ready to send' cache. So at times, there is little work going out.
Thus, the 'feathering' seen on the Cricket graph.


Yes but look at the in progress graph on the server graphs page, the last 96 Hrs graph shows a steady increase with no fluctuations, the slope of the graph seems to be as steep as when the pipe has been maxed.

Is the pipe able to handle this load easier than being maxed with all the network problems.

If everyone is getting some work does it matter if us faster users take a little bit longer to fill our caches to our prefured levels?


I won't complain. At least when some work is assigned, the downloads seem to be going through straight off.
"Time is simply the mechanism that keeps everything from happening all at once."

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Message 1121208 - Posted: 24 Jun 2011, 22:56:33 UTC - in response to Message 1120884.  

Sticking to technical news to at least some degree, I notice over the past 2 days the cricket is giving an unusual pattern showing a moment of 'downtime' after regular periods, say every 2 hours. What's causing this?

For whatever reasons, the splitters seem to be unable to work fast enough to maintain a 'ready to send' cache. So at times, there is little work going out.
Thus, the 'feathering' seen on the Cricket graph.


Maybe that's by design, something they did to make the ageing Bruno's life a bit less stressful.

I think it's more of a sign of some other issue.
The master DB queries per second graph shows there's been a lot of activity there since the last outage. In the past if the number of Queries per second is over around 600, the splitters get bogged down. And that has pretty much been the case since the last outage- it's been averaging over 800.
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