Yeah, back to 6-6.5 hrs of crunch times with 4.07 from 8.5-10 hrs with 4.05. Thanks to the developers and SETI@home got back it's equal share with other projects from me :)

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Aloha, Uli

I have downloaded 4.07 but it still uses 4.05 . . . what's wrong here

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> Forgive me if this has already been answered elsewhere, but is the 4.07
> SETI@Home client supposed to roll out to Linux/Mac machines or is it Windows
> only? My Linux client is still running on a 4.02 client and I was wondering if
> 4.07 will be made available to us alternative-OS'ers. :)

There will definitely be a new setiathome version rolled out to the non-Windows clients. Just as the Windows client advertised new API calls to support the new GUI, the other platforms will be updated accordingly. After all, the other platforms are going to be getting that GUI, too. It's just a matter of when it's ready.

Not to flog a dead horse or anything, but, please, gang, don't go resetting your projects to suck down a newer version of setiathome. Let the old WUs get processed in a proper FIFO fashion and have the core client upgrade to the new application when you get WUs that require it. This is especially valid for non-Windows clients (the topic of this particular reply) because they do not suffer from the same time- and benchmarking bugs as the Windows client.

trane

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> I have downloaded 4.07 but it still uses 4.05 . . . what's wrong here

Nothing's wrong. You have WUs that require 4.05 (WUs are app-version-specific), so 4.05 will be used until the server sends you WUs that require 4.07. Understand that for a given period of time of processing, either client will give you the same number of credits, so there is no benefit to resetting the project. In fact, doing so delays the science results for the project.

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> Using HT, I have 1 Wu still crunching with v4.05. The graphics for this WU are
> using my prefered settings. I have 1 other WU crunching with v4.07. What's
> amazing is the graphics of this last one is using the general preferences of
> the graphics and not my user defined ones.
>
> Any suggestion ?
>

As Peter H. noted also... the 4.07 screen saver doesn't display the User Name, team or total credits either. Probably something to do with the new APIs.

Also... I only saw a couple minutes reduction in time with 4.07 once adjusted for the size of the W/U.

Skip

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- da shu @ HeliOS,
"A child's exposure to technology should never be predicated on an ability to afford it."

Now finished old wu's and onto 4.07.Crunching 2 wu's (HT)in 3 hours and 10 mins.So about one hour and 35 mins for one wu.

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......In Space No One Can Hear You Scream......

> Forgive me if this has already been answered elsewhere, but is the 4.07
> SETI@Home client supposed to roll out to Linux/Mac machines or is it Windows
> only? My Linux client is still running on a 4.02 client and I was wondering if
> 4.07 will be made available to us alternative-OS'ers. :)
>
> 4.07 decreased my compute time from 6 Hours to 4 Hours for 2 units on a
> Windows XP system with a P4 2400 @ 2700. Thanks to the SETI crew for fixing
> the slowdown bug :)
>

http://setiweb.ssl.berkeley.edu/sah/apps.php
the link to this is under the participate page, and shows the current seti applications used by various OS types.

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> Then why do people care if the unit processing time goes down?
>
> Credit given is still the same. (either longer unit time or shorter time it
> still equals out the same).
>
> Some people are weird.....
>
> "I uploaded 50 billion units and got 200 credits"
>
> "I uploaded 5 units and got 200 credits"
>
>
> Whatever floats your boat?
>
I should say that I crunch for the science... that being said:

I have 1 Windows machine crunching for SETI. It always claims a lot of credit per WU. For every WU claimed, I get credit based on the middle credit claimed of the three returned. So, if I claim 80 credits per WU or 120 it doesn't matter, I'll still get that same middle credit claimed. What does matter (credit-wise) is the number of WU returned by that machine.

my 2 ¢

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> > Then why do people care if the unit processing time goes down?
> >
> > Credit given is still the same. (either longer unit time or shorter time
> it
> > still equals out the same).
> >
> > Some people are weird.....
> >
> > "I uploaded 50 billion units and got 200 credits"
> >
> > "I uploaded 5 units and got 200 credits"
> >
> >
> > Whatever floats your boat?
> >
> I should say that I crunch for the science... that being said:
>
> I have 1 Windows machine crunching for SETI. It always claims a lot of credit
> per WU. For every WU claimed, I get credit based on the middle credit claimed
> of the three returned. So, if I claim 80 credits per WU or 120 it doesn't
> matter, I'll still get that same middle credit claimed. What does matter
> (credit-wise) is the number of WU returned by that machine.
>
> my 2 ¢

I should also add that I have a Mac that always clamis very little credit. Same situation... It doesn't matter if it claims 20 or 30 credits, I'll still get that middle credit. (although sometimes if there is a Linux machine crunching the same unit we all get very little credit)

another 2 ¢

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-Aardvark

> > I have downloaded 4.07 but it still uses 4.05 . . . what's wrong here
>
> Nothing's wrong. You have WUs that require 4.05 (WUs are
> app-version-specific), so 4.05 will be used until the server sends you WUs
> that require 4.07. Understand that for a given period of time of processing,
> either client will give you the same number of credits, so there is no benefit
> to resetting the project. In fact, doing so delays the science results for the
> project.
>
>

Thanks for the info

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> > Rom is investigating the graphics problem with the new sah app 4.07 for
> > windows. I suspect that the answer lies in the front page news, in that
> the
> > new app contains the upgraded graphics API changes which work fine for
> the
> > core being tested in alpha {Boinc V4.5x}, but not the core currently
> running
> > in seti{Boinc V4.13}.
> >
> And the graphics do work with 4.54. So this may just be a case for patience
> until 4.5x is released.
>

Not true. I just installed BOINC 4.54 and still see default graphics without my name and credits...

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Since using the 4.07 app, I've been enjoying substantial WU savings! From taking about 5:05 hrs. to 3:05 hrs! ( 1.99 gig, 2400 Athlon XP, budget mem.) I wonder, however, if the Seti servers will become overtaxed and find themselves swamped in the rising tide of WUs they will experience.

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>I wonder, however, if the Seti servers will become overtaxed and find themselves swamped in the rising tide of WUs they will experience.
>

I do agree at this point there is no way SETI2 can handle the rush the gang at Berkeley would have to shut down SET1 and merge all equipment to SETI2, and do a major balancing act. I have been part of a rollout at a major University and can see how all could have gone wrong except for great planning amongst a lot of Bright people. I can only guess what could happen @SETI2. Berkeley still has a lot of kinks to work out.

A quote from TECH News

"In other news, plans are moving ahead to add more outlets to the server closet. Not only are we constrained by limited funding, but we're also maxed out on power, and close to our limit of physical space and air conditioning. However, we're adding three new breakers so we will have at least one less constraint to worry about. "

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Thanks for that info, Timmy!