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Todd Hebert Send message Joined: 16 Jun 00 Posts: 648 Credit: 228,292,957 RAC: 0 |
Yes, the new CPU's do have embedded GPU's that are quite good - but the board that I have coming doesn't support it. Was designed for using an add-in card. I will see what I can do to get something going. Intel is sending me another 2500k and some board but I don't know what it is until I open the care package :) I can pop together another rig shortly for that ATI card with the dual gpu's on the same card - 4850x2. I think the problem I had was related to it having the Nvidia drivers first (2 different versions) and ATI second. This would be on an X58 board and an i7-965 or a Xeon. Todd |
archae86 Send message Joined: 31 Aug 99 Posts: 909 Credit: 1,582,816 RAC: 0 |
Yes, the new CPU's do have embedded GPU's that are quite good - but the board that I have coming doesn't support it.The GPU is on all the Sandy Bridge dice, but the P67 chipset used in higher end board does not provide video out from it, while the H67 chipset aimed at low-end boards does. But the question is, could Raistmer's code use the GPU under openCL, which is definitely present, or does that somehow require enabling by the chipset, even though the purpose is not video/graphical output? Could be worth a try? |
Todd Hebert Send message Joined: 16 Jun 00 Posts: 648 Credit: 228,292,957 RAC: 0 |
From my knowledge once an add-in card is inserted the functionality of the onboard video is disabled. The training that I attended yesterday described this and just this sort of question was asked. I don't know if there is any ability to turn this on despite Intel's desire not to. Todd |
Frizz Send message Joined: 17 May 99 Posts: 271 Credit: 5,852,934 RAC: 0 |
Ah, I thought this CPU will have some embedded GPU part that supports OpenCL. 1) You need a proper mainboard (read about the H67 / P67 chipset farce *g*). 2) You need a proper driver. Although the IGP of Sandy Bridge supports OpenCL (1.1), I haven't seen a single piece of software (GPUZ, GPU Caps Viewer, etc.) yet that runs OpenCL code on Sandy Bridge. There's no way (at the moment) to programm it, since Intel doesn't care too much about OpenCL drivers. Petition against 1366x768 glare displays: http://www.facebook.com/home.php?sk=group_153240404724993 |
archae86 Send message Joined: 31 Aug 99 Posts: 909 Credit: 1,582,816 RAC: 0 |
Thanks for the clarifications. I'd been wondering whether protecting the eventual possibility of using the onboard GPU for distributed computing could be a reason to prefer a P67 to a H67 chipset system. So, maybe, yes in the long run, if some day drivers come forth and it stays true that somehow P67 does a remote disable of the entire resource. I confess I'm a little surprised at the GPU being disabled, as I'd thought that potential use of that resource for other than display graphics was a potential strength of the architecture. I recall how proud Haifa was at getting lots of extra fixed-point mileage out of modest extra cost in the floating point unit on the P55 MMX stuff. |
Todd Hebert Send message Joined: 16 Jun 00 Posts: 648 Credit: 228,292,957 RAC: 0 |
Seems as though Intel really wants us to use their graphics technology. For mainstream usage it seems perfect to assemble a lower cost system and to add value to their cpu's and chipsets. But they are also trying to cut out people from using optimized applications from nVidia or AMD. I thought this odd given the agreement between Intel and nVidia - however this is a new development and Sandy Bridge has been in development for some time now. Long before the agreement was made. Todd |
Frizz Send message Joined: 17 May 99 Posts: 271 Credit: 5,852,934 RAC: 0 |
I confess I'm a little surprised at the GPU being disabled, as I'd thought that potential use of that resource for other than display graphics was a potential strength of the architecture. +1 :D It's really a waste not using an existing feature. Intel could as well disable SSE or AVX at will ... doing so would make no sense either. Petition against 1366x768 glare displays: http://www.facebook.com/home.php?sk=group_153240404724993 |
OzzFan Send message Joined: 9 Apr 02 Posts: 15691 Credit: 84,761,841 RAC: 28 |
These new BIOS's take a bit to get used to - totally different layout and pretty confusing. Heck you can even use a mouse! Some older Supermicro motherboards have mouse functionality included in the BIOS. ;) My P6-DBE dual slot 1 has it. |
zoom3+1=4 Send message Joined: 30 Nov 03 Posts: 65762 Credit: 55,293,173 RAC: 49 |
These new BIOS's take a bit to get used to - totally different layout and pretty confusing. Heck you can even use a mouse! I'm just getting used to Windows7 Pro, I need to find a couple of parts for the drive transplant to a new(a refurbished motherboard that I bought awhile back) Asus motherboard and a Coolermaster Elite 360 case and yep that's the smallest/tightest atx case that I know of for My Asus P7P55D Pro motherboard. In fact no card can be longer than 8.7" in length cause the psu sits next to the 5.25" drive bays, which is front of where the cards go, with the exhaust pointing away from the motherboard. The T1 Trust, PRR T1 Class 4-4-4-4 #5550, 1 of America's First HST's |
-BeNt- Send message Joined: 17 Oct 99 Posts: 1234 Credit: 10,116,112 RAC: 0 |
Seems as though Intel really wants us to use their graphics technology. For mainstream usage it seems perfect to assemble a lower cost system and to add value to their cpu's and chipsets. But they are also trying to cut out people from using optimized applications from nVidia or AMD. I thought this odd given the agreement between Intel and nVidia - however this is a new development and Sandy Bridge has been in development for some time now. Long before the agreement was made. It wasn't an agreement, it was a settlement and the terms thereof. I wouldn't expect or plan to see Intel start integrating with Nvidia or vice versa. This was more of a "leave us alone" thing than anything. Especially considering that if the market starts really shifting bounds to the arm side of things, with Nvidia starting to build arm chips, they will be more enemy to each other than they already are if you ask me. Traveling through space at ~67,000mph! |
Todd Hebert Send message Joined: 16 Jun 00 Posts: 648 Credit: 228,292,957 RAC: 0 |
My host has now become active with the 2600k and the 4x GTX-570's. Take a look here http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=5757464 Thus far I am amazed at the performance of a $320 processor! Todd |
Frizz Send message Joined: 17 May 99 Posts: 271 Credit: 5,852,934 RAC: 0 |
Uh oh! All have -9 so far! "SETI@Home Informational message -9 result_overflow" Can you please do an offline run with Knabench to check if the Lunatics app really works with Sandy Bridge Petition against 1366x768 glare displays: http://www.facebook.com/home.php?sk=group_153240404724993 |
dnolan Send message Joined: 30 Aug 01 Posts: 1228 Credit: 47,779,411 RAC: 32 |
Not all -9 on my 2600 ... -Dave |
archae86 Send message Joined: 31 Aug 99 Posts: 909 Credit: 1,582,816 RAC: 0 |
As of posting there are at least two CPU results which have validated against quorum partners on this host. one two As the downloads were fresh at the start, and the host is fast, it is natural that it spent time waiting for quorum partners to check in. With over 1600 reported results awaiting validation, it is no longer practical to page through counting the CPU ones, but there are plenty, and they are not all -9. |
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