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Dave Cummings Send message Joined: 16 May 09 Posts: 219 Credit: 1,193,729 RAC: 0 |
I am about to upgrade from windows XP to windows 7, i have copied the c:\program files\all users\application data\boinc to a pen drive - do i just copy it back to the same location in windows 7? |
BilBg Send message Joined: 27 May 07 Posts: 3720 Credit: 9,385,827 RAC: 0 |
I am about to upgrade from windows XP to windows 7, i have copied the c:\program files\all users\application data\boinc to a pen drive - do i just copy it back to the same location in windows 7? Copy to any location you like and select this location as BOINC Data folder during install of BOINC The default location on Vista & Win 7 is C:\ProgramData\BOINC Â - ALF - "Find out what you don't do well ..... then don't do it!" :) Â |
Fred W Send message Joined: 13 Jun 99 Posts: 2524 Credit: 11,954,210 RAC: 0 |
I am about to upgrade from windows XP to windows 7, i have copied the c:\program files\all users\application data\boinc to a pen drive - do i just copy it back to the same location in windows 7? Amend that to "any location except below c:\program files\.... F. |
John McLeod VII Send message Joined: 15 Jul 99 Posts: 24806 Credit: 790,712 RAC: 0 |
I am about to upgrade from windows XP to windows 7, i have copied the c:\program files\all users\application data\boinc to a pen drive - do i just copy it back to the same location in windows 7? Another bad location would be under c:\Windows. BOINC WIKI |
mytmic Send message Joined: 8 Jun 99 Posts: 1 Credit: 77,193 RAC: 0 |
Help, I used to be a seti user when it was the classic version, I have tried to download the boinc platform for the last 7 years, un-successful every time. I am now running windows 7 and when boinc tries to connect to get a work unit, it never connects, it just sits there idle. Oh and the skype help does not work either. Is there anyone that can help me, or is there the seti classic I can run. Mytmic |
OzzFan Send message Joined: 9 Apr 02 Posts: 15691 Credit: 84,761,841 RAC: 28 |
Help, I used to be a seti user when it was the classic version, I have tried to download the boinc platform for the last 7 years, un-successful every time. I am now running windows 7 and when boinc tries to connect to get a work unit, it never connects, it just sits there idle. Oh and the skype help does not work either. Is there anyone that can help me, or is there the seti classic I can run. Hi Mytmic, We need more information as to why BOINC is trying but failing to get more work. There will be some clues in the Messages tab that should give some indication as to what's going on. But as far as I see, your host (AMD Turion X2 running Windows 7) has two tasks already and should be working on them. Since this is probably a laptop, the default setting is to not do any work while on battery power, and to not do any work while the user is active. These settings may be preventing SETI from running as often as you'd like. Sorry, but there is no "classic" program anymore. BOINC is the only way to run SETI@Home on your computer(s). |
David_Hanseat Send message Joined: 5 Dec 05 Posts: 2 Credit: 87,023 RAC: 0 |
Hello, i have a Problem mit BOINC. I'm working with Windows7 and two days ago, i installed BOINC on my new computer. I got 2 new tasks from SETI, but after i've uploaded the finished Work BOINC replies the following error message and is not getting new tasks: "Your computer has no NVIDIA GPU". Could someone help me to fix this problem? Thank you |
Gundolf Jahn Send message Joined: 19 Sep 00 Posts: 3184 Credit: 446,358 RAC: 0 |
That's no problem at all. There are two types of work units: for CPUs and for GPUs. Since your computer has a GPU, BOINC will ask for both types of work, but you have an ATI GPU and SETI@home only has work for Nvidia GPUs (and CPUs); so, the server tells you that it can't send GPU tasks. So, just ignore that warning, since you obviously get CPU tasks to process. Gruß, Gundolf Computer sind nicht alles im Leben. (Kleiner Scherz) SETI@home classic workunits 3,758 SETI@home classic CPU time 66,520 hours |
OzzFan Send message Joined: 9 Apr 02 Posts: 15691 Credit: 84,761,841 RAC: 28 |
That message would be unrelated to your lack of tasks. When it says you have no nVidia GPU, it is only informational. I get that message too because I don't have an nVidia GPU either. There has to be a different reason why you're not getting any work. We need more information. |
skildude Send message Joined: 4 Oct 00 Posts: 9541 Credit: 50,759,529 RAC: 60 |
you have an ati video card not a nvidia card. This message shouldnt be a surprise. Currently, the only way to get an ATI card to work on Seti is with an optimized app from Lunatics. Collatz is probably the only project your Graphics card can be used on In a rich man's house there is no place to spit but his face. Diogenes Of Sinope |
perryjay Send message Joined: 20 Aug 02 Posts: 3377 Credit: 20,676,751 RAC: 0 |
OzzFan, He is getting work for his CPUs so everything is all right there. yokohh1980, As the others said, that message is just telling you you don't have an Nvidia Graphics card so it will not send you any work for GPU. You should still be getting work for your CPUs. PROUD MEMBER OF Team Starfire World BOINC |
Eduardo Bicudo Dreyfuss Send message Joined: 20 Jun 05 Posts: 58 Credit: 1,386,154 RAC: 0 |
I've just upgraded my i7 from XP 32 to Seven 64 today and 1 - The boinc is using only 1.5Gb memory but the computer has 6Gb. HOW CAN I MAKE BOINC USE ALL 6Gb? 2 - Boinc didn't recognize the GPU and I'm running only cpu WUs. The NVIDIA is correctly installed and the driver was already updated. HOW CAN I MAKE BOINC RUN GPU? (the GPU was crunching just fine under XP32 until last night). Thanks for any help, Eduardo |
Jord Send message Joined: 9 Jun 99 Posts: 15184 Credit: 4,362,181 RAC: 3 |
HOW CAN I MAKE BOINC USE ALL 6Gb? Why would you want to? Can't be done with Seti, but you can run CPDN UK Met Office HADAM3 on 4 of your 8 CPUs. They require 1.5GB minimum per model. 2 - Boinc didn't recognize the GPU and I'm running only cpu WUs. The NVIDIA is correctly installed and the driver was already updated. HOW CAN I MAKE BOINC RUN GPU? (the GPU was crunching just fine under XP32 until last night). If BOINC doesn't recognize the GPU, check the drivers first. BOINC uses the drivers for the detection of your GPU. Who installed or updated those drivers, you or Windows? If Windows, then it's using the Windows supplied drivers, which may not have all the features that the manufacturer's drivers have. So update the drivers from Nvidia or your card's manufacturer. |
Eduardo Bicudo Dreyfuss Send message Joined: 20 Jun 05 Posts: 58 Credit: 1,386,154 RAC: 0 |
1 - I want to use all 6Gb because it would crunch faster using more RAM memory (that is faster than the HD memory). The main advatage of a 64 bit system is its capability of addressing more memory. If I understood correctly, Seti is not capable of using more than this current 1.5Gb and in this case, is there a prevision of when it will do so? You can see that right now there already are a lot - I mean thousands - computers with more RAM memory than 1.5Gb. This is a waste of available computing power. And thanks, I'm 100% SETI and don't want to attach to any other project,. 2 - I went to NVIDIA website and downloaded a very large recommended driver and now it's running cuda just fine, thanks a lot, Eduardo |
Jord Send message Joined: 9 Jun 99 Posts: 15184 Credit: 4,362,181 RAC: 3 |
Seti uses 32 megabytes of RAM per application that's running. So it won't ever - not now, not in the future - use more RAM. So if you run 8 tasks at the same time, on all 8 of your CPU cores, it consumes all of 256MB of RAM. Independent of how much you have in your system, independent on if it's 32bit or 64bit that you run. Since you run stock applications here at Seti, they only come in 32bit flavor for Windows, there are no 64bit Seti Enhanced and Astropulse applications for Windows, those are only available for Linux 64bit. There is no speed-up to be had from 64bit applications, there isn't even a speed-up to be had from using more memory. The applications use the floating point unit of your CPU for the calculations. (And the FPU is 80bit, has been like that forever since its inception). |
Gundolf Jahn Send message Joined: 19 Sep 00 Posts: 3184 Credit: 446,358 RAC: 0 |
1 - I want to use all 6Gb because it would crunch faster using more RAM memory (that is faster than the HD memory). That is only true if the application needs more memory than is actually available; only then, the HD would be used (for paging). Since, as Ageless has pointed out, SETI doesn't need more than 32 MiB per task, there's nothing to gain with more (recognised) memory. Gruß, Gundolf Computer sind nicht alles im Leben. (Kleiner Scherz) SETI@home classic workunits 3,758 SETI@home classic CPU time 66,520 hours |
Jord Send message Joined: 9 Jun 99 Posts: 15184 Credit: 4,362,181 RAC: 3 |
Of course, if you really want to use all 6Gb of RAM and only use it on Seti, then all you need to do is get a system with 192 CPUs/cores. ;-) (192 * 32MB = 6,144MB = 6GB) |
BilBg Send message Joined: 27 May 07 Posts: 3720 Credit: 9,385,827 RAC: 0 |
Or do it by force: Make cc_config.xml file and put it in BOINC Data directory <cc_config> <options> <ncpus>100</ncpus> </options> </cc_config> BOINC will start simultaneously 100 tasks as if 100 CPU cores exist. You can try this just for fun to see what it will look like. But it will not make the computations faster, it will make them slower. Â - ALF - "Find out what you don't do well ..... then don't do it!" :) Â |
Eduardo Bicudo Dreyfuss Send message Joined: 20 Jun 05 Posts: 58 Credit: 1,386,154 RAC: 0 |
OK, I understood now, I was thinking that Seti was like some engineering softwares used for Finite Element Stress or Air flow or Heat Flow analisys that use a calculation front line wich size is memory avalilability dependant and this is an idea for you to consider for future developments. Thanks very much, Eduardo |
OzzFan Send message Joined: 9 Apr 02 Posts: 15691 Credit: 84,761,841 RAC: 28 |
.. wich size is memory avalilability dependant and this is an idea for you to consider for future developments. The thing is, due to the dataset that SETI@Home uses, there's no need for using a larger memory space at all. |
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