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Message 967018 - Posted: 30 Jan 2010, 19:19:28 UTC - in response to Message 966993.  
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But there are worse makers than Tt.


Like Ultra.

Yeah, It seems like they always make a flashy psu or something thats cheaply made.


All the magnets on my Ultra case door came off eventually :(

I just wanted to say that while I voted for the Asus I'm basing it on the hardware.. build quality etc. They're not without quirks and I've had problems with them. I've tried other mid priced boards that have cheap quality plastic connectors and board heatsinks that are loose so I prefer an Asus board for that.
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Message 967019 - Posted: 30 Jan 2010, 19:20:54 UTC

Hmmmm

I am running an MSI Eclipse gaming series board alot more expensive but quality components


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Message 967020 - Posted: 30 Jan 2010, 19:21:08 UTC - in response to Message 967015.  
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SNIP
Mwave has the Asus board for $114
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Could even move up to the Deluxe model at your price....

I should have said this is with sales tax and shipping to Me, Except for the DFI which has Free shipping. The following is the cost of each motherboard @ Newegg before any tax or any shipping(if any that is).

DFI:    $174.99
Asus:   $124.99
Asrock: $111.99

Both in California so Mwave should still save you $10....I have been to Mwaves store and they were friendly helpful people in case you were wondering....

Hmm, I'll have to look at Mwave as the Open Box is usually just a motherboard, the Asrock or Asus I/O shield would cost Me another $21.36 delivered to Me from ebay.

DFI:    -1
Asus:    2
Asrock:  2


I forgot to add in My opinion on the Asrock, But then the delivered price does help.

My last open box was from Newegg board I am using and it came with only the board...Last one I got from Mwave did include parts and book but may have been a fluke, I would call them.

All the open box boards I've ever bought from le'egg have always been board only, And except for the shield, everything else can be downloaded, Aren't multiple PCs great? :D
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Message 967022 - Posted: 30 Jan 2010, 19:37:35 UTC

Since NewEgg has choices galore, wondering if anyone has thoughts on a technical reason why you might want to get a motherboard from the SAME manufacturer as your GPU(s)? EVGA for example.

Yes, it limits your choices significantly and bumps the cost some, but at minimum, they stand a better chance of having been design-time tested together, and possibly sharing some design advantages or nuances and/or component brand choices.

If the answers are tilted towards "no advantage what-so-ever," then does the same hold true about mixing GPU mfgs on the same motherboard?
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Message 967023 - Posted: 30 Jan 2010, 19:41:45 UTC

One of my R2E's was a Newegg 'open box' bargain.

And I got a couple of others before.......

Usually, they are refurbs from the vendor.
Sent back, run through the repair process, and given back to the seller to reship.

No manuals, no cables, etc.
But I always had enough of that spare crap around anyways.

And warranty was still OK on the refurbs anyway.

Newegg rocks when it comes to problems.......ship it back and you are good to go, in most cases. Never had anyone better at that.
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Message 967026 - Posted: 30 Jan 2010, 19:50:44 UTC - in response to Message 966994.  
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SNIP
Mwave has the Asus board for $114
Mwave
Could even move up to the Deluxe model at your price....

I should have said this is with sales tax and shipping to Me, Except for the DFI which has Free shipping. The following is the cost of each motherboard @ Newegg before any tax or any shipping(if any that is).

DFI:    $174.99
Asus:   $124.99
Asrock: $111.99

Both in California so Mwave should still save you $10....I have been to Mwaves store and they were friendly helpful people in case you were wondering....

Hmm, I'll have to look at Mwave as the Open Box is usually just a motherboard, the Asrock or Asus I/O shield would cost Me another $21.36 delivered to Me from ebay.

DFI:    -1
Asus:    2
Asrock:  2


I forgot to add in My opinion on the Asrock, But then the delivered price does help.

My last open box was from Newegg board I am using and it came with only the board...Last one I got from Mwave did include parts and book but may have been a fluke, I would call them.

Ok I did look at Mwave and the Asus motherboard there which is $132.15 delivered, It has a 15 day warranty and just the motherboard, So that's out as It would be more expensive than the Asrock, However the Mwave price with the ebay part does beat the Newegg(30 day warranty I think) Asus price with the ebay part by $11.65, Of course the warranty from either place isn't too important to Me as the cpu and ram will not happen until almost a year later(can't be helped).

132.15 Mwave Asus P7P55D PRO
 26.50 I/O shield(price delivered to Me)
------
158.65

129.66 Newegg Asrock P55 Extreme
 21.36 I/O shield(price delivered to Me)
------
151.02

143.80 Newegg Asus P7P55D PRO
 26.50 I/O shield(price delivered to Me)
------
170.30

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Message 967032 - Posted: 30 Jan 2010, 20:13:21 UTC - in response to Message 967026.  

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Mwave has the Asus board for $114
Mwave
Could even move up to the Deluxe model at your price....

I should have said this is with sales tax and shipping to Me, Except for the DFI which has Free shipping. The following is the cost of each motherboard @ Newegg before any tax or any shipping(if any that is).

DFI:    $174.99
Asus:   $124.99
Asrock: $111.99

Both in California so Mwave should still save you $10....I have been to Mwaves store and they were friendly helpful people in case you were wondering....

Hmm, I'll have to look at Mwave as the Open Box is usually just a motherboard, the Asrock or Asus I/O shield would cost Me another $21.36 delivered to Me from ebay.

DFI:    -1
Asus:    2
Asrock:  2


I forgot to add in My opinion on the Asrock, But then the delivered price does help.

My last open box was from Newegg board I am using and it came with only the board...Last one I got from Mwave did include parts and book but may have been a fluke, I would call them.

Ok I did look at Mwave and the Asus motherboard there which is $132.15 delivered, It has a 15 day warranty and just the motherboard, So that's out as It would be more expensive than the Asrock, However the Mwave price with the ebay part does beat the Newegg(30 day warranty I think) Asus price with the ebay part by $11.65, Of course the warranty from either place isn't too important to Me as the cpu and ram will not happen until almost a year later(can't be helped).

132.15 Mwave Asus P7P55D PRO
 26.50 I/O shield(price delivered to Me)
------
158.65

129.66 Newegg Asrock P55 Extreme
 21.36 I/O shield(price delivered to Me)
------
151.02

143.80 Newegg Asus P7P55D PRO
 26.50 I/O shield(price delivered to Me)
------
170.30

I wouldn't use the store warrenty anyways, I would deal with Asus as they just send a new board but haven't ever had a problem with any Refubs or open boxes. I also have a computer store worth of spare parts...Not sure how dealing with Asrock is...Thats my main concern when buying open box.
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Message 967034 - Posted: 30 Jan 2010, 20:17:49 UTC - in response to Message 967026.  
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Of course the warranty from either place isn't too important to Me as the cpu and ram will not happen until almost a year later(can't be helped).




Then don't even discuss buying it now, you fool. (And I say that in the kindest sense of the word.)

When the time comes, there may be many different and better choices on the landscape.

Working yourself up about it now, or buying something that you can't even use for a year is just futility.

Give it a rest, my friend....give it a rest.
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Message 967037 - Posted: 30 Jan 2010, 20:30:04 UTC - in response to Message 967032.  
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SNIP
Mwave has the Asus board for $114
Mwave
Could even move up to the Deluxe model at your price....

I should have said this is with sales tax and shipping to Me, Except for the DFI which has Free shipping. The following is the cost of each motherboard @ Newegg before any tax or any shipping(if any that is).

DFI:    $174.99
Asus:   $124.99
Asrock: $111.99

Both in California so Mwave should still save you $10....I have been to Mwaves store and they were friendly helpful people in case you were wondering....

Hmm, I'll have to look at Mwave as the Open Box is usually just a motherboard, the Asrock or Asus I/O shield would cost Me another $21.36 delivered to Me from ebay.

DFI:    -1
Asus:    2
Asrock:  2


I forgot to add in My opinion on the Asrock, But then the delivered price does help.

My last open box was from Newegg board I am using and it came with only the board...Last one I got from Mwave did include parts and book but may have been a fluke, I would call them.

Ok I did look at Mwave and the Asus motherboard there which is $132.15 delivered, It has a 15 day warranty and just the motherboard, So that's out as It would be more expensive than the Asrock, However the Mwave price with the ebay part does beat the Newegg(30 day warranty I think) Asus price with the ebay part by $11.65, Of course the warranty from either place isn't too important to Me as the cpu and ram will not happen until almost a year later(can't be helped).

132.15 Mwave Asus P7P55D PRO
 26.50 I/O shield(price delivered to Me)
------
158.65

129.66 Newegg Asrock P55 Extreme
 21.36 I/O shield(price delivered to Me)
------
151.02

143.80 Newegg Asus P7P55D PRO
 26.50 I/O shield(price delivered to Me)
------
170.30

I wouldn't use the store warrenty anyways, I would deal with Asus as they just send a new board but haven't ever had a problem with any Refubs or open boxes. I also have a computer store worth of spare parts...Not sure how dealing with Asrock is...Thats my main concern when buying open box.

In any case I like the feedback @ Newegg feedback on the Asrock(It's getting pretty impressive now), I've yet to see anyone outside of Amazon do this, The feedback from ebay doesn't count as Its too short by ebay design(It's not an apple to apple thing, It's an apple to orange thing). Oh and yeah the the store warranty is too short sometimes and I'd rather deal with the manufacturer than the retailer.

@ Mark: I know You mean well, But My spending is up to Me and when My schedule permits and right now I have a small window of opportunity, So I'll strike while the iron's hot, As that's the best time to do so(ask any Blacksmith). :)
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Message 967039 - Posted: 30 Jan 2010, 20:32:17 UTC - in response to Message 967034.  

Of course the warranty from either place isn't too important to Me as the cpu and ram will not happen until almost a year later(can't be helped).




Then don't even discuss buying it now, you fool. (And I say that in the kindest sense of the word.)

When the time comes, there may be many different and better choices on the landscape.

Working yourself up about it now, or buying something that you can't even use for a year is just futility.

Give it a rest, my friend....give it a rest.

I have to agree, you are good at budgeting so save the money and buy all at once when you can as you may pay way less or get way more....
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Message 967044 - Posted: 30 Jan 2010, 20:37:55 UTC - in response to Message 967039.  

Of course the warranty from either place isn't too important to Me as the cpu and ram will not happen until almost a year later(can't be helped).




Then don't even discuss buying it now, you fool. (And I say that in the kindest sense of the word.)

When the time comes, there may be many different and better choices on the landscape.

Working yourself up about it now, or buying something that you can't even use for a year is just futility.

Give it a rest, my friend....give it a rest.

I have to agree, you are good at budgeting so save the money and buy all at once when you can as you may pay way less or get way more....

Yeah well I can't pass up a bargain, As It would only cost Me more later.
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Message 967045 - Posted: 30 Jan 2010, 20:39:22 UTC - in response to Message 967044.  

Of course the warranty from either place isn't too important to Me as the cpu and ram will not happen until almost a year later(can't be helped).




Then don't even discuss buying it now, you fool. (And I say that in the kindest sense of the word.)

When the time comes, there may be many different and better choices on the landscape.

Working yourself up about it now, or buying something that you can't even use for a year is just futility.

Give it a rest, my friend....give it a rest.

I have to agree, you are good at budgeting so save the money and buy all at once when you can as you may pay way less or get way more....

Yeah well I can't pass up a bargain, As It would only cost Me more later.

Never seen any part go up after a year, but you know best...
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Message 967061 - Posted: 30 Jan 2010, 21:16:53 UTC - in response to Message 967045.  
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Of course the warranty from either place isn't too important to Me as the cpu and ram will not happen until almost a year later(can't be helped).




Then don't even discuss buying it now, you fool. (And I say that in the kindest sense of the word.)

When the time comes, there may be many different and better choices on the landscape.

Working yourself up about it now, or buying something that you can't even use for a year is just futility.

Give it a rest, my friend....give it a rest.

I have to agree, you are good at budgeting so save the money and buy all at once when you can as you may pay way less or get way more....

Yeah well I can't pass up a bargain, As It would only cost Me more later.

Never seen any part go up after a year, but you know best...

Well I was able to adjust the schedule somewhat, I moved the cpu(an i5 750) to November of this year, better than before and I can sell off the P5K Deluxe for the new ram I'll need(plus the ram and the i9300 quad core cpu from My 2nd PC which has a P5K Deluxe motherboard in It).

As once the 3 older parts(Asus P5K Deluxe w/812 Bios, 2GB Patriot Viper DDR2@8500 and the iQ9300 cpu) are sold off for hopefully(for no less than) $179.42 then the cpu in November will still be a ways off, But It won't be too far off at least.
[$179.42(Delivered, Free Shipping) G.SKILL Trident Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) DDR3 2000 (PC3 16000) F3-16000CL9D-4GBTD, Newegg]

Oh and It's not about the price going up so much, as It's about the Open Box versions disappearing.
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Message 967122 - Posted: 31 Jan 2010, 0:08:27 UTC
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I'd vote for the Asus board. It, or one of the related P7P55D boards, is one I was considering before I bought the Gigabyte board for my HTPC. An option for your wireless network could be to get a USB wireless adapter, or a wireless bridge. Then the boards slots would be irrelevant.

Another option is just to wait for newer cheaper things if you are not planning to get things like the CPU till Nov.
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Message 967132 - Posted: 31 Jan 2010, 0:55:55 UTC - in response to Message 967122.  

I'd vote for the Asus board. It, or one of the related P7P55D boards, is one I was considering before I bought the Gigabyte board for my HTPC. An option for your wireless network could be to get a USB wireless adapter, or a wireless bridge. Then the boards slots would be irrelevant.

Another option is just to wait for newer cheaper things if you are not planning to get things like the CPU till Nov.



Ok, I have a usb SuperG(108Mbps) wireless adapter, I'll just load a driver for It in XP x64. Oh and I think I'll be buying the Asrock or the Asus, I'm so torn... As the way the Asrock handles the 3rd and 4th express slots is nice(4x each if both are filled and 8x if the one nearest the blue slot is filled by itself, The blue slot stays at 16x on this motherboard, Then there's the sata ports(which may not matter), The Asus has 1 more usb port on the back than the Asrock, The price is not too far a part @ $7.63 of course, But a less expensive I/O Shield does cut that by $7.52, So the actual difference is actually $0.11 which is not all that much. So does anyone have either one?

132.15 Mwave Asus P7P55D PRO
 18.98 I/O shield(price delivered to Me)
------
151.13

129.66 Newegg Asrock P55 Extreme
 21.36 I/O shield(price delivered to Me)
------
151.02


DFI:    -1
Asus:    3
Asrock:  2

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Message 967135 - Posted: 31 Jan 2010, 1:09:03 UTC
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May I vote to just save some money? Anyway... judging by Intel's latest silicon cadence model, it won't be long until i7's are obsolete. But, if I had to vote, it would be ASUS. Never had a problem with a mobo from them.

Tick... Tock...
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May I vote to just save some money? Anyway... judging by Intel's latest silicon cadence model, it won't be long until i7's are obsolete. But, if I had to vote, it would be ASUS. Never had a problem with a mobo from them.

Tick... Tock...

Ok, There's another one, Asus is starting to pull away. :D

DFI:    -1
Asus:    4
Asrock:  2


Asus has put 3GB and 6GB kits just like Asrock did in their pdf for the P7P55D Pro, So I'll still get the G.Skill F3-16000CL9D-4GBTD Trident series ram kit as It's for the i5 and i7 motherboards and cpus.

Oh and this voting is up on the 1st of February, So If You haven't voted, Please vote. :)
(Too bad there is no Poll ability here, Oh well) :D
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Message 967143 - Posted: 31 Jan 2010, 1:28:04 UTC

Reading back part of the thread, why are you ordering a separate I/O shield? Last time I checked they are included with the mobo.
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Message 967148 - Posted: 31 Jan 2010, 2:01:02 UTC - in response to Message 967143.  

Reading back part of the thread, why are you ordering a separate I/O shield? Last time I checked they are included with the mobo.

Other than make all the holes fill what does an I/O shield do? Is it necessary?
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Message 967149 - Posted: 31 Jan 2010, 2:05:15 UTC - in response to Message 967132.  

I'd vote for the Asus board. It, or one of the related P7P55D boards, is one I was considering before I bought the Gigabyte board for my HTPC. An option for your wireless network could be to get a USB wireless adapter, or a wireless bridge. Then the boards slots would be irrelevant.

Another option is just to wait for newer cheaper things if you are not planning to get things like the CPU till Nov.



Ok, I have a usb SuperG(108Mbps) wireless adapter, I'll just load a driver for It in XP x64. Oh and I think I'll be buying the Asrock or the Asus, I'm so torn... As the way the Asrock handles the 3rd and 4th express slots is nice(4x each if both are filled and 8x if the one nearest the blue slot is filled by itself, The blue slot stays at 16x on this motherboard, Then there's the sata ports(which may not matter), The Asus has 1 more usb port on the back than the Asrock, The price is not too far a part @ $7.63 of course, But a less expensive I/O Shield does cut that by $7.52, So the actual difference is actually $0.11 which is not all that much. So does anyone have either one?

132.15 Mwave Asus P7P55D PRO
 18.98 I/O shield(price delivered to Me)
------
151.13

129.66 Newegg Asrock P55 Extreme
 21.36 I/O shield(price delivered to Me)
------
151.02


DFI:    -1
Asus:    3
Asrock:  2


Well at new egg "ASUS P7P55D PRO LGA 1156 Intel P55 ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail 10% off with promo code MBTENOFF, ends 1/31"
The new one is priced at $169.99 with free shipping. With 10% off in my cart it comes to $152.99 not including NJ tax.

I think you might have misread something on the Asrock site or manual.
2 x PCI Express 2.0 x16 slots (Single at x16 or Dual at x8/x8 mode)
1 x PCI Express 2.0 x16 slot (at x4 mode, 2.5GT/s)
1 x PCI Express 2.0 x1 slot (2.5GT/s)

For i5 & i7-800 CPUs the 16 lanes of PCIe for graphics come from a controller on the CPU not though the P55.
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