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Message 966317 - Posted: 28 Jan 2010, 4:34:45 UTC - in response to Message 966311.  

netbooks that are tablet like

An upcoming Oh-Ah item is a touch based netbook with no keyboard... rather, TWO screens (opens up same way, joins in the middle).



I saw a CGI video of notebook like that before christmas, but it used a flexible LCD. One half would be a keyboard with it was in a 90 degree or so position. Then when laid flat it would be one large screen.
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Message 966320 - Posted: 28 Jan 2010, 4:38:58 UTC - in response to Message 966314.  

Why would I want a computer I could write on?


Hi Ned, well, those dang school kids with all the money are important game changers. But what I saw had a "finger-slideable" full sized keyboard that was simply displayed on the touch sensitive screen (just like the iPhone, but for normal fingers).
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Message 966323 - Posted: 28 Jan 2010, 4:42:58 UTC - in response to Message 966314.  

I'd imagine that by next year we should be able to find standard netbooks that are tablet like.

I type 70 words per minute. My handwriting is illegible.

Why would I want a computer I could write on?

I don't want to write on it. I can't read my own handwriting most of the time..... maybe I should have been a doctor.
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Message 966329 - Posted: 28 Jan 2010, 4:50:28 UTC - in response to Message 966320.  

Why would I want a computer I could write on?


Hi Ned, well, those dang school kids with all the money are important game changers. But what I saw had a "finger-slideable" full sized keyboard that was simply displayed on the touch sensitive screen (just like the iPhone, but for normal fingers).

The last good keyboard was the IBM Model M (in quite a few variants).

How do you get good tactile feedback out of a keyboard displayed on a touch screen.
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Message 966330 - Posted: 28 Jan 2010, 4:55:02 UTC - in response to Message 966329.  
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Maybe it can zap you as each key registers ;-)

These screens will soon cost less than a keyboard to manufacture, the keys can't pop-off, your spilled soda wipes off, and the screen real-estate can be used for other purposes (be it sliding windows, or other character set based keyboards, etc). Ultimately economics take over (which is why there are so many junky mice available now-a-days).
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Message 966331 - Posted: 28 Jan 2010, 4:55:34 UTC - in response to Message 966329.  

Why would I want a computer I could write on?


Hi Ned, well, those dang school kids with all the money are important game changers. But what I saw had a "finger-slideable" full sized keyboard that was simply displayed on the touch sensitive screen (just like the iPhone, but for normal fingers).

The last good keyboard was the IBM Model M (in quite a few variants).

How do you get good tactile feedback out of a keyboard displayed on a touch screen.

Magic I think http://www.redferret.net/?p=9533
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Message 966332 - Posted: 28 Jan 2010, 5:00:17 UTC - in response to Message 966330.  

Maybe it can zap you as each key registers ;-)

These screens will soon cost less than a keyboard to manufacture, the keys can't pop-off, your spilled soda wipes off, and the screen real-estate can be used for other purposes (be it sliding windows, or other language based keyboards, etc).

I read people here talking about expensive processors, and fancy video and slick cases, and while it's all interesting, I don't touch the processor or the video card.

I spend a good part of my day touching keyboards, and while I have little interest in a $100 video card, paying $100 for a good keyboard is a no-brainer.

Thankfully, Model-M "buckling spring" keyboards are still being made today, and go for about $70.
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Message 966338 - Posted: 28 Jan 2010, 5:37:56 UTC - in response to Message 966332.  

The following might work with the iPad, thus you can bridge the best of both worlds :-)




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Message 966339 - Posted: 28 Jan 2010, 5:38:13 UTC
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The iPad is missing the MacBook Wheel (youtube link) :(
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Message 966344 - Posted: 28 Jan 2010, 5:48:32 UTC - in response to Message 966338.  

The following might work with the iPad, thus you can bridge the best of both worlds :-)





That isn't a Model M keyboard. <ducking>
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Message 966351 - Posted: 28 Jan 2010, 6:11:27 UTC - in response to Message 966339.  

The iPad is missing the MacBook Wheel (youtube link) :(


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Message 966359 - Posted: 28 Jan 2010, 7:31:33 UTC - in response to Message 966255.  

Don't want one. No interest.

Me neither Blurf, Just another gadget to Me, But then I've got several PCs. :D
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Message 966381 - Posted: 28 Jan 2010, 12:57:57 UTC

Wow. Gotta love the email I just received from Apple.

They describe the iPad as "Our most advanced technology in a magical and revolutionary device at an unbelievable price."

Describing technology as magical. Hmmmm.

Must me nice to have customers like that.

I do agree with their claim about the price being unbelievable, however.

Time will tell if there's actually a significant market segment for a device like that. I think it's too expensive to be competitive as a book reader, and way too big (and expensive) to be an iPod Touch. That pretty much leaves the netbook segment.

Do people really want a netbook with limited connectivity options and no keyboard at a pricepoint where you can start getting full featured laptops? I guess we'll find out.
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Message 966386 - Posted: 28 Jan 2010, 13:26:47 UTC - in response to Message 966381.  

I thought it was a new Kindle at first then I thought it was a closeup of a PDA
in fact its just a PDA the size of a kindle


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Message 966438 - Posted: 28 Jan 2010, 18:11:15 UTC - in response to Message 966359.  

Don't want one. No interest.

Me neither Blurf, Just another gadget to Me, But then I've got several PCs. :D

Their point is that this isn't a computer, so if you got one you'd still have the same number of PCs.
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Message 966488 - Posted: 28 Jan 2010, 21:33:10 UTC - in response to Message 966438.  

Don't want one. No interest.

Me neither Blurf, Just another gadget to Me, But then I've got several PCs. :D

Their point is that this isn't a computer, so if you got one you'd still have the same number of PCs.

Yeah well, Since It can surf the web(Even though It's crippled due to no ability to run flash, Just like the iPod or the iPhone are), It isn't much different than a netbook, Heck a netbook is probably a better value.
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Message 966493 - Posted: 28 Jan 2010, 21:56:12 UTC - in response to Message 966488.  

Yeah well, Since It can surf the web(Even though It's crippled due to no ability to run flash, Just like the iPod or the iPhone are), It isn't much different than a netbook, Heck a netbook is probably a better value.

Since neither of us has really seen one, it's hard to say.

When they presented the iPad, Apple says "this is a new class of device" and Steve Jobs said "this isn't a netbook."

If you want a computer, and a Netbook is a computer, then you should not buy an iPad thinking it's a Netbook.

Step 1: Figure out what it really is.

Step 2: Decide if you need that or not.

Step 3: Decide if you need that enough to shell out cash.

I'm still at step 1, and frankly, not that motivated. It sounds to me like an iPhone that won't fit in my pocket, but I'm sure I'm wrong.
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Message 966499 - Posted: 28 Jan 2010, 22:23:15 UTC

Remember all those 1980's pictures of the first yuppie bankers with the first ever cellphones clamped to their ears - the ones the size of a brick, with a telescopic aerial and a separate battery pack dangling from their belts?

Now draw the equivalent 2010 cartoon...
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Message 966509 - Posted: 28 Jan 2010, 23:01:44 UTC - in response to Message 966499.  

Remember all those 1980's pictures of the first yuppie bankers with the first ever cellphones clamped to their ears - the ones the size of a brick, with a telescopic aerial and a separate battery pack dangling from their belts?

Now draw the equivalent 2010 cartoon...

What do you mean, "yuppie bankers"? It was the ultimate pointer for presentations to senior management ;-)

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Message 966510 - Posted: 28 Jan 2010, 23:07:13 UTC - in response to Message 966509.  

Maybe that's what the thread title refers to - superglue a hedgehog to the back, and you'll have the ultimate head-scratcher....
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