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Kaylie Send message Joined: 26 Jul 08 Posts: 39 Credit: 333,106 RAC: 0 ![]() |
We may be overlooking the most obvious reason for these failures… ET has inadvertently let a signal be received by Arecibo and is now sabotaging this project so we don’t find it. (Taking a lesson from LHC’s bird from the future.) |
Roundel Send message Joined: 1 Feb 06 Posts: 21 Credit: 6,850,211 RAC: 0 ![]() |
Why does this project go down EVERY second or third weekend? Rather flakey and very unprofessional in my opinion. I think this post was a bit rude frankly. This project is being run a donation basis with donated equipment and a small staff. I think they are doing a stellar job with what they have to work with. And I thank them for their devotion as well. This is not a business, this is an academic research project. |
Kaylie Send message Joined: 26 Jul 08 Posts: 39 Credit: 333,106 RAC: 0 ![]() |
Ditto. I'd like to see this guy do better on a shoestring budget on a voluntary basis. I hope evryone had a Happy Thanksgivving. |
![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 4 Sep 99 Posts: 3868 Credit: 2,697,267 RAC: 0 ![]() |
Why does this project go down EVERY second or third weekend? Rather flakey and very unprofessional in my opinion. One of the purposes of BOINC projects in general, and SETI in particular, is to develop the concept of distributed computing. SETI leads the pack because of the large numbers of volunteers that have signed up. Every time we (the volunteers) overload SETI and break it down is another useful data point. Anybody, even the flakey (sic), can run a reliable computer service for a gazillion users, all it takes is time and money. We see it happening every day (YouTube, on-line shopping, etc.). The REAL talent is to run a large distributed project like SETI as a small part of your main job, on a motley collection of second hand and donated equipment. The fact that do as well as they do is far from flakey, and, in my opinion, is highly professional. ![]() ![]() |
Cruncher-American ![]() ![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 25 Mar 02 Posts: 1513 Credit: 370,893,186 RAC: 340 ![]() ![]() |
Why does this project go down EVERY second or third weekend? Rather flakey and very unprofessional in my opinion. Well, a sloppy (i.e., UNbusinesslike) attitude can be a problem - just ask the boys at UEA CRU. |
![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 20 Oct 01 Posts: 39 Credit: 23,815,960 RAC: 0 ![]() |
Why does this project go down EVERY second or third weekend? Rather flakey and very unprofessional in my opinion. I couldn't agree more with Roundel. While the outages may be frustrating, they are inevitable considering that SETI does not have, and can not afford, top-notch equipment. And even top-notch equipment fails from time-to-time. I wonder if Dukbil could code for or troubleshoot a massive database and all of the other incidental coding. Ehhhh? SETI was the first worldwide distributed computing project, and I personally think they do a very admirable job considering the equipment they have to work with. And those guys are really dedicated to keeping it all running. Good'uns to all. ![]() ![]() I DONATE money to SETI@home.... DO YOU? I'm just slowly BOINC'ing along. Hey... ET... you have a sister who likes earthlings? |
Krashlandon ![]() Send message Joined: 31 Jan 06 Posts: 16 Credit: 110,296 RAC: 0 ![]() |
You are doing a great job. Take your holiday--you deserve it. Hey, turn on that megawatt transmitter at Arecibo and I'll cook my turkey in the main lobe. ;-) SETI.Florida |
![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 20 Aug 02 Posts: 3377 Credit: 20,676,751 RAC: 0 ![]() |
Hey, call the Kampus Kops, somebody seems to be messing around in the server room!! I just managed to upload all my WUs. Still can't report them or get new work but it's a start. THANKS to whoever is in there fiddling around. ![]() PROUD MEMBER OF Team Starfire World BOINC |
nickoli Send message Joined: 14 Feb 07 Posts: 1 Credit: 157,739 RAC: 0 ![]() |
I too just uploaded my WUs, still can't report. |
![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 4 Sep 99 Posts: 3868 Credit: 2,697,267 RAC: 0 ![]() |
All my WUs just uploaded as well. Very professional. ![]() ![]() |
![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 5 Mar 01 Posts: 783 Credit: 348,560,338 RAC: 223 ![]() ![]() |
We may be overlooking the most obvious reason for these failures… ET has inadvertently let a signal be received by Arecibo and is now sabotaging this project so we don’t find it. (Taking a lesson from LHC’s bird from the future.) Unfortunately for all those outlets that reported it (especially The Register, which seems to have started it) the story of the bird and the baguette doesn't mesh with CERN's reality. See this article: http://cdsweb.cern.ch/journal/CERNBulletin/2009/48/News%20Articles/1221806?ln=en Unluckily, I'd finished my round of shifts before CMS saw its first collisions, but at least I was still at CERN when it happened. ![]() ![]() ![]() |
![]() Send message Joined: 9 Jun 99 Posts: 15184 Credit: 4,362,181 RAC: 3 ![]() |
It's also possible they piggy backed us upon the campus connection, allowing us to upload. I notice that the scheduling server and both download servers are specifically disabled. |
![]() Send message Joined: 16 May 09 Posts: 219 Credit: 1,193,729 RAC: 0 ![]() |
yep mine have uploaded and reported as well! |
![]() Send message Joined: 16 May 09 Posts: 219 Credit: 1,193,729 RAC: 0 ![]() |
also just had two new wu's |
![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 20 Aug 02 Posts: 3377 Credit: 20,676,751 RAC: 0 ![]() |
Message from the front page: November 27, 2009 The connectivity problem noted yesterday turned out to be one of our switches and not the router. We swapped in a replacement switch today and connectivity was restored. ![]() PROUD MEMBER OF Team Starfire World BOINC |
Cruncher-American ![]() ![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 25 Mar 02 Posts: 1513 Credit: 370,893,186 RAC: 340 ![]() ![]() |
Message from the front page: November 27, 2009 Good job! And: thank you... |
Dave Send message Joined: 29 Mar 02 Posts: 778 Credit: 25,001,396 RAC: 0 ![]() |
I've been able to upload but not download as yet. Just 12 hours left on main machine at the minute. Maybe there are so many posts to the forums it's preventing the science traffic from getting through :D! |
1mp0£173 Send message Joined: 3 Apr 99 Posts: 8423 Credit: 356,897 RAC: 0 ![]() |
Why does this project go down EVERY second or third weekend? Rather flakey and very unprofessional in my opinion. But it's not a business. It's a research project. Besides, yet again, we're measuring by the wrong criteria. Web sites that make money have to be up, because they are there for people to view. What BOINC does (in theory) does not involve people. It involves machines in the field getting and returning work. I don't see the slightest reason to get upset when one machine cannot instantly communicate with another. No reason at all. ... and I think the best solution is to simply take away the BOINC client GUI entirely -- or simplify it to the point that we can't see work in progress, only completed work after it is reported. It'd sure stop all of this immature "SETI@Home is dying" whining that seems so rampant. |
1mp0£173 Send message Joined: 3 Apr 99 Posts: 8423 Credit: 356,897 RAC: 0 ![]() |
I've been able to upload but not download as yet. Just 12 hours left on main machine at the minute. Maybe there are so many posts to the forums it's preventing the science traffic from getting through :D! Forums uses the campus connection to the net. BOINC client to BOINC server traffic goes across a different network. |
![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 9 Mar 01 Posts: 203 Credit: 1,600,521 RAC: 0 |
Glad to see things are working again: now you've really got something to Give Thanks for this weekend; chill guys, and give that turkey a good roasting. |
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