Area 51 - Whats Really there???

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AndyW Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 23 Oct 02 Posts: 5862 Credit: 10,957,677 RAC: 18	Message 914733 - Posted: 6 Jul 2009, 15:15:29 UTC - in response to Message 914731. A couple more and THE MAP Cheers Andy, I appreciate that. Just to let others know the link is http://www.andyworth.co.uk/seti/area51/map.jpg Theres a typo in the word map in the link quoted above. Oops! Fixed my post too. Thank you! ID: 914733 ·

Steven Meyer Send message Joined: 24 Mar 08 Posts: 2333 Credit: 3,428,296 RAC: 0	Message 914842 - Posted: 6 Jul 2009, 18:18:40 UTC The things that are developed there are not new technology, but new and novel applications of the existing technology. For example, the stealth bomber's low radar return is accomplished by simply reflecting the EM away from the radar transmitter, and in some cases absorbing it, so that it looks to the radar receiver to be a small bird. We have known how to reflect and absorb EM for almost a hundred years, so the technology is not new, just the specific application of it. So do not look for anti-gravity aircraft that fly without wings, jet thrusters, rotors, or balloons. Science and technology can be indistinguishable from magic when the technology is not understood. I recall a short sci-fi story called "The Wall Around the World" in which technology was banned and magic was the norm. People flew around on broomsticks, however the broomsticks could not fly high enough to get over the wall around the world. It turns out that the broomsticks were technology, and they all had a "limiter" built in to prevent them from flying as high as the top of the wall. ID: 914842 ·

Misfit Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 21 Jun 01 Posts: 21804 Credit: 2,815,091 RAC: 0	Message 914909 - Posted: 6 Jul 2009, 20:24:16 UTC - in response to Message 914628. What did you expect? Brent Spiner working with some $1500 hammers. me@rescam.org ID: 914909 ·

Carlos Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 9 Jun 99 Posts: 31393 Credit: 57,275,487 RAC: 157	Message 914937 - Posted: 6 Jul 2009, 21:00:15 UTC - in response to Message 914842. So do not look for anti-gravity aircraft that fly without wings, jet thrusters, rotors, or balloons. You forgot to add light. They have some flying around this area that are powered by the expansion of atmospheric gas resulting from ground based high energy laser pluses. I think they have a proto type out there too. ID: 914937 ·

Steven Meyer Send message Joined: 24 Mar 08 Posts: 2333 Credit: 3,428,296 RAC: 0	Message 914970 - Posted: 6 Jul 2009, 22:08:49 UTC - in response to Message 914937. Last modified: 6 Jul 2009, 22:09:47 UTC So do not look for anti-gravity aircraft that fly without wings, jet thrusters, rotors, or balloons. You forgot to add light. They have some flying around this area that are powered by the expansion of atmospheric gas resulting from ground based high energy laser pluses. I think they have a proto type out there too. That is still a jet thruster, right? It just gets its energy from the lasers rather than from combustion. Still not new tech, just novel application of old tech. ID: 914970 ·

John McLeod VII Volunteer developer Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 15 Jul 99 Posts: 24806 Credit: 790,712 RAC: 0	Message 914994 - Posted: 6 Jul 2009, 22:50:42 UTC - in response to Message 914842. The things that are developed there are not new technology, but new and novel applications of the existing technology. For example, the stealth bomber's low radar return is accomplished by simply reflecting the EM away from the radar transmitter, and in some cases absorbing it, so that it looks to the radar receiver to be a small bird. We have known how to reflect and absorb EM for almost a hundred years, so the technology is not new, just the specific application of it. So do not look for anti-gravity aircraft that fly without wings, jet thrusters, rotors, or balloons. Science and technology can be indistinguishable from magic when the technology is not understood. I recall a short sci-fi story called "The Wall Around the World" in which technology was banned and magic was the norm. People flew around on broomsticks, however the broomsticks could not fly high enough to get over the wall around the world. It turns out that the broomsticks were technology, and they all had a "limiter" built in to prevent them from flying as high as the top of the wall. The usual quote is: "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." Radars are built to ignore small birds. Now we have to build them to detect really fast small birds... BOINC WIKI ID: 914994 ·

Enoch Send message Joined: 26 Apr 09 Posts: 48 Credit: 15,329,197 RAC: 0	Message 915159 - Posted: 7 Jul 2009, 2:12:38 UTC - in response to Message 914593. Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain. Me I think scram jet propulsion and maybe anti gravity. I saw something here in NY one winter a few years ago that was big slow and silent. It had 3 white running lights so It wasnt a ufo , Out line thru my binoculars against the background of stars was like a wedge. like that wedge that has been seen down in Phoenix AZ. Our Government has 1500 dollar hammers for a reason. Thats an appropriate line for this 4th of july weekend:) James, just FYI, those "Phoenix Lights" are actually flares dropped by the military within the Goldwater Bombing Range; I happened to be there one year, and just by coincidence, a friend of mine happened to be camping out up here in Prescott in an area where they were able to be seen, and we both saw them (me, "up-close and personal" - at the Range as an observer) and him here about 115 miles NNW and at about 6100' elevation. He didn't know I was down there at that time and called me to say he saw the "UFO's", and I had him describe them to me and had to let him down when I told him what they really were. SHHHHHHHHHHHHhhhhhh!! You'll ruin the whole mystic about the place. To think though I live here in Houston area and I've never been. Oye. I would like to go to that festival they have in Roswell though. ID: 915159 ·

Misfit Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 21 Jun 01 Posts: 21804 Credit: 2,815,091 RAC: 0	Message 915228 - Posted: 7 Jul 2009, 5:39:39 UTC It's what is underneath area 51 that is interesting. ID: 915228 ·

Misfit Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 21 Jun 01 Posts: 21804 Credit: 2,815,091 RAC: 0	Message 915230 - Posted: 7 Jul 2009, 5:56:04 UTC Click the pic for crazy talk! me@rescam.org ID: 915230 ·

Steven Meyer Send message Joined: 24 Mar 08 Posts: 2333 Credit: 3,428,296 RAC: 0	Message 915300 - Posted: 7 Jul 2009, 12:33:18 UTC - in response to Message 915230. Gee Misfit, I played the D&D Implanter Scenario Campaign some decades ago. I didn't know the Player's Handbook for it was online. :^D ID: 915300 ·

John McLeod VII Volunteer developer Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 15 Jul 99 Posts: 24806 Credit: 790,712 RAC: 0	Message 915430 - Posted: 7 Jul 2009, 22:01:00 UTC - in response to Message 915300. Gee Misfit, I played the D&D Implanter Scenario Campaign some decades ago. I didn't know the Player's Handbook for it was online. :^D I don't remember the implanter scenario. (I played lots of D&D though). BOINC WIKI ID: 915430 ·

Enoch Send message Joined: 26 Apr 09 Posts: 48 Credit: 15,329,197 RAC: 0	Message 915504 - Posted: 7 Jul 2009, 23:46:18 UTC LOL... I think because it looks like one of those old D&D maps. ID: 915504 ·

Carlos Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 9 Jun 99 Posts: 31393 Credit: 57,275,487 RAC: 157	Message 915658 - Posted: 8 Jul 2009, 10:41:04 UTC D&D or not there are things underground out there. Living next to an AF base we get tid bits everyone and then. I was going over plans to some houses I was building with my archtect at the time. While there I saw some plans for an underground facility that he was working on. They were not classified. Just pilot barracks, designed to go underground at area 51. ID: 915658 ·

Misfit Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 21 Jun 01 Posts: 21804 Credit: 2,815,091 RAC: 0	Message 915746 - Posted: 8 Jul 2009, 16:58:39 UTC UFO Hunters had different drawings for the underground Dulce base. Let's all go there on Halloween night and ask if we can tour Nightmare Hall. And I want an accurate head count of all those greys. Maybe even some autographs. me@rescam.org ID: 915746 ·

Steven Meyer Send message Joined: 24 Mar 08 Posts: 2333 Credit: 3,428,296 RAC: 0	Message 915754 - Posted: 8 Jul 2009, 17:13:23 UTC - in response to Message 915746. Last modified: 8 Jul 2009, 17:13:40 UTC UFO Hunters had different drawings for the underground Dulce base. Let's all go there on Halloween night and ask if we can tour Nightmare Hall. And I want an accurate head count of all those greys. Maybe even some autographs. Are you sure that the Greys even have heads to count? ID: 915754 ·

Misfit Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 21 Jun 01 Posts: 21804 Credit: 2,815,091 RAC: 0	Message 915820 - Posted: 8 Jul 2009, 20:06:50 UTC - in response to Message 915754. UFO Hunters had different drawings for the underground Dulce base. Let's all go there on Halloween night and ask if we can tour Nightmare Hall. And I want an accurate head count of all those greys. Maybe even some autographs. Are you sure that the Greys even have heads to count? Those big eyes have to be attached to something. me@rescam.org ID: 915820 ·

Balveda* Send message Joined: 20 Oct 08 Posts: 310 Credit: 376,456 RAC: 0	Message 916011 - Posted: 9 Jul 2009, 2:50:52 UTC - in response to Message 915956. UFO Hunters had different drawings for the underground Dulce base. Let's all go there on Halloween night and ask if we can tour Nightmare Hall. And I want an accurate head count of all those grays. Maybe even some autographs. Are you sure that the Grays even have heads to count? Those big eyes have to be attached to something. Yeah a great big Tourist Trap for a place off the beaten path. Nah, Aliens ain't the best for that...what you need to bring the tourists in is one of these... Tried and tested for years; of course a few Whisky trails helps too ;) Balveda ID: 916011 ·

John McLeod VII Volunteer developer Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 15 Jul 99 Posts: 24806 Credit: 790,712 RAC: 0	Message 916013 - Posted: 9 Jul 2009, 3:00:06 UTC - in response to Message 916011. UFO Hunters had different drawings for the underground Dulce base. Let's all go there on Halloween night and ask if we can tour Nightmare Hall. And I want an accurate head count of all those grays. Maybe even some autographs. Are you sure that the Grays even have heads to count? Those big eyes have to be attached to something. Yeah a great big Tourist Trap for a place off the beaten path. Nah, Aliens ain't the best for that...what you need to bring the tourists in is one of these... Tried and tested for years; of course a few Whisky trails helps too ;) Balveda Now if someone could get a real picture that was that good of nessie... BOINC WIKI ID: 916013 ·

Steven Meyer Send message Joined: 24 Mar 08 Posts: 2333 Credit: 3,428,296 RAC: 0	Message 916034 - Posted: 9 Jul 2009, 3:28:05 UTC - in response to Message 916013. Last modified: 9 Jul 2009, 3:28:13 UTC ... Now if someone could get a real picture that was that good of nessie... Or a real one that good of a YouPho. ID: 916034 ·

John McLeod VII Volunteer developer Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 15 Jul 99 Posts: 24806 Credit: 790,712 RAC: 0	Message 916036 - Posted: 9 Jul 2009, 3:36:00 UTC - in response to Message 916034. ... Now if someone could get a real picture that was that good of nessie... Or a real one that good of a YouPho. What is a YouPho? BOINC WIKI ID: 916036 ·

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