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Raistmer Send message Joined: 16 Jun 01 Posts: 6325 Credit: 106,370,077 RAC: 121 |
Is it possible to overclock Gigabyte motherboard based on Q35 chipset? (and how if possible?) It has no OCing options in BIOS and Gigabyte's EasyTune 6 doesn't have any FSB OCing options for this board too :( |
zoom3+1=4 Send message Joined: 30 Nov 03 Posts: 65777 Credit: 55,293,173 RAC: 49 |
Is it possible to overclock Gigabyte motherboard based on Q35 chipset? No idea Raist, Ok I did some research on this and I'll quote a Newegg review of this one: Newegg Customer Review wrote: Marketed as a corporate stable chipset configuration I'll assume the motherboard You are talking about is this one GIGABYTE GA-Q35M-S2 as It's all that Gigabyte makes/made with the Q35 chipset. image is from Buy.com as Newegg now uses Flash for photos. The T1 Trust, PRR T1 Class 4-4-4-4 #5550, 1 of America's First HST's |
OzzFan Send message Joined: 9 Apr 02 Posts: 15691 Credit: 84,761,841 RAC: 28 |
If it is marketed as a "corporate stable" version, then it will be nearly impossible to overclock. Asus and Gigabyte are both doing this to encourage those smaller IT departments that build their own workstations and do not want their users to find ways into the BIOS to overclock their own rigs - these boards are similar to the boards sold to OEMs such as Dell and HP without OC'ing options. [Edit]I'm sure the Q35 chipset itself is OC'able, but it does require a compatible BIOS to do so. I'm not sure about those software OC'ing utils and how they work with these type boards. |
W-K 666 Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 19093 Credit: 40,757,560 RAC: 67 |
Is there any thing in the Advanced BIOS setup, from manual page 33 2nd para: To see more advanced BIOS Setup menu options, you can press <Ctrl> + <F1> in the main menu |
Raistmer Send message Joined: 16 Jun 01 Posts: 6325 Credit: 106,370,077 RAC: 121 |
Is there any thing in the Advanced BIOS setup, from manual page 33 2nd para: There are fine memory tuning options but no single option for FSB freq change. CPU voltage changing option presents though (why it's needed if no CPU OCing possible - it's enigma :) ). Maybe some alternative software utilities exist? I've seen so called setFSB utility, but don't know what clock generator chip I should chose in that program. |
_hiVe* Send message Joined: 7 Aug 04 Posts: 9 Credit: 4,980,874 RAC: 0 |
Check setFSB's main website. They list quite a few mobo's and their clock generator. If you'll find yours, its pretty sure it'll work. If you can't find it from the model list, you could try looking it up yourself, the clock generator on the mobo I mean. Also I can tell you from my own experience, that each manufacturer tends to use the same clock generator for a series of products, so perhaps you could try setting RTM875T-587 and check the frequency read-out, if it does {ie. read 2400mhz on your 2.4ghz CPU} and you'll get no errors, you could start tuning. If it freezes up, no luck, but quite often it works. Its not as flexible as OC thru. bios, with all the voltage and other options but its better than nothing~ Wish you luck~ |
W-K 666 Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 19093 Credit: 40,757,560 RAC: 67 |
There is a french site, in english, that has two programs, Memset and CPU-Tweaker. Not used them myself, but know others that have used Memset to adjust setting not available in some BIOS's, such as tRFC. http://www.tweakers.fr/ |
Raistmer Send message Joined: 16 Jun 01 Posts: 6325 Credit: 106,370,077 RAC: 121 |
Check setFSB's main website. Thanks Intel: G33/P35/X38/X58 It seems Q35 doesn't supported. |
Raistmer Send message Joined: 16 Jun 01 Posts: 6325 Credit: 106,370,077 RAC: 121 |
There is a french site, in english, that has two programs, Memset and CPU-Tweaker. Not used them myself, but know others that have used Memset to adjust setting not available in some BIOS's, such as tRFC. Thanks, but "Not for this CPU" error. |
_hiVe* Send message Joined: 7 Aug 04 Posts: 9 Credit: 4,980,874 RAC: 0 |
Check setFSB's main website. Please try nonetheless. For instance P45 isn't listed, and yet it works. Basically everything from x(whatever)35 to x(whatever)58 is supported. |
Chelski Send message Joined: 3 Jan 00 Posts: 121 Credit: 8,979,050 RAC: 0 |
A year or so ago I actually tried on one of those afternoon when theres nothing better to do, tried every single option on a Q945 (HP machine - one of those crappy corporate oriented mobos manufactured by Foxconn), got a few BSOD, most of the time nothing happened and did not find one that works. I think it would make more sense to actually open it up and look at the physical chip and try to make sense of it, but it was my friend's machine so we didn't bring out the screwdrivers that time |
Raistmer Send message Joined: 16 Jun 01 Posts: 6325 Credit: 106,370,077 RAC: 121 |
Check setFSB's main website. Well, RTM875T-587 gave PLL ID error, but RTM876-660 seems to work partially. It shows FSB freqs but shows wrong ones. When I pressed "Set" button, system hang with completely white screen. |
Raistmer Send message Joined: 16 Jun 01 Posts: 6325 Credit: 106,370,077 RAC: 121 |
I think it would make more sense to actually open it up and look at the physical chip and try to make sense of it, How it could look ? Hope it's not the one under radiator? :) |
Lint trap Send message Joined: 30 May 03 Posts: 871 Credit: 28,092,319 RAC: 0 |
Raistmer, Also from Newegg comments: Other Thoughts: This chipset will not overclock your processor. In version F2 (what mine shipped with) there seemed to be options for hit (ctrl-shift-f1) in the bios, but with version F4 they have been removed. So, try ctrl-SHIFT-f1 if your bios version is <F4. Maybe some help. Is this board in your development/personal machine? Martin |
Raistmer Send message Joined: 16 Jun 01 Posts: 6325 Credit: 106,370,077 RAC: 121 |
Raistmer, Thanks for info, will try Ctrl-Shift-F1 now :) Hope next option will not be Ctrl-Alt-Del-F1 or I will have damaged fingers after such exersise :D It's my own host, not development one (but still I like it too much to kill BTW ;) ) |
michs Send message Joined: 18 Jul 00 Posts: 29 Credit: 7,040,001 RAC: 0 |
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Raistmer Send message Joined: 16 Jun 01 Posts: 6325 Credit: 106,370,077 RAC: 121 |
Try this one: :(((((((((((((((((( "SysTool will only work on Windows 2000/XP/2003 (64 bit versions are supported)." I use Vista...... will try to manage this problem, thanks for link. |
Raistmer Send message Joined: 16 Jun 01 Posts: 6325 Credit: 106,370,077 RAC: 121 |
Raistmer, For protocol :) : I have F2 revision but got no new option with using Ctrl-Shift-F1 over using Ctrl-F1 (they both enabled immense memory tweaking options but no FSB-related ones still). |
Josef W. Segur Send message Joined: 30 Oct 99 Posts: 4504 Credit: 1,414,761 RAC: 0 |
Raistmer wrote:
Undervolting? If you can't make it faster, at least you might make it more efficient. And if your memory can work at less latency you might get useful speed improvement anyhow. Joe |
archae86 Send message Joined: 31 Aug 99 Posts: 909 Credit: 1,582,816 RAC: 0 |
Undervolting? If you can't make it faster, at least you might make it more efficient. And if your memory can work at less latency you might get useful speed improvement anyhow.Joe I don't know why the manufacturer chose to offer it, but it is true you can match the voltage to the need. If by bad luck your particular part is not quite fast enough to run your application load reliably, adding a bit of voltage might just remedy matters. In the more common case that your particular part has considerable speed margin at spec clock rate in your actual ambient (temperature, voltage, application mix...), then, as Joe mentions, instead of just enjoying your part working forever, you can save power by undervolting. I've saved tens of watts continuously over the last few months on three systems running dead stock clock (an E6600, a Q6600, and a Q9550). I don't like to live as close to the bleeding edge as the more severe overclockers, so my chosen method was to feel my way down until I found the lowest setting that would run my ap load for a week without detectable incident, then I raised the voltage by four of minimum increments offered. I'd be less conservative were the systems BOINC-only, but I do my taxes on one, another is my backup host, and the third also has uses I care about. |
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