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Message 868082 - Posted: 22 Feb 2009, 16:00:24 UTC

Here's the deal..
As some one else posted in the 'Panic on server' thread, If everyone or at least most donated $5.00 towards improving Seti@Homes bandwidth issues, maybe it could be solved.
I am asking for just 5 dollars each. A fraction of the cost of the CPU(s) alone you are crunching with.
If you feel the need to donate more, than you are blessed. If you can only do 3 dollars, you too are blessed.
Matt will know where to put this money to best repair the bandwidth issues. If that means buying a much faster server for that purpose, that is Matt's call.
I only ask that it be spent towards repairing the bandwidth bottleneck issues as best Matt sees fit.
There are some screamming fast computers on ebay for cheap. No need in buying new hardware when a KNOWN working and much cheaper server can be had. There is also many other network related hardware listings there as well.
Maybe the overall bandwidth needs to be boosted? I have no idea what really is at the core of the bandwidth bottleneck but together, the community and Matt can solve this!


If you donate, please post in this thread. You need NOT disclose the amount but that is your call.
I am off to start this with a donating of $10.00. 5 for me and 5 for my wife, Terri who also crunches seti.
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Message 868084 - Posted: 22 Feb 2009, 16:05:34 UTC

Yup - $5 does it for me, they lay out a special donation project ring fencing this to the cable issue they have, they get the dosh. It must be ring fenced tho or no dosh.
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Message 868092 - Posted: 22 Feb 2009, 16:31:10 UTC - in response to Message 868084.  

Thanks Zydor! :)
I think Matt will do what is best. This bandwidth issue has been a thorn in his side for some time now.
I made my $10.00 donation but the page didnt show any info at the end and I didnt get an email conformation. If it dont show in my bank account, I will donate again :)

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Message 868097 - Posted: 22 Feb 2009, 16:46:17 UTC

My 6 monthly donation was due this 15th, so donated $50. Hope Blurf will pick this up, although it's still too early for the donation drive he mentioned, which would be sometime in march.

Not really sure if the bandwidth issue can be addressed in the manner which we envisage, but I have faith in the Berkeley boys...
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Message 868102 - Posted: 22 Feb 2009, 16:55:03 UTC

Threw a spot in the hat.. every bit helps, and hope we can put a little dent in the issues! :)
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Message 868113 - Posted: 22 Feb 2009, 17:33:01 UTC

Ok as I mention in #13, On the 27th I'll Donate $10 to Seti earmarked specifically for and only for Fixing the Seti Bandwidth Problems.
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Message 868114 - Posted: 22 Feb 2009, 17:37:17 UTC - in response to Message 868113.  

What are "the issues" with bandwidth, specifically? Can they be resolved by throwing $$ at them, or is this something systemic with the way SETI as run? I'm happy to donate if it helps things, but not if it doesn't change anything. What exactly is the plan?
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Message 868128 - Posted: 22 Feb 2009, 18:10:22 UTC

Thanks everyone :)

What are "the issues" with bandwidth, specifically? Can they be resolved by throwing $$ at them, or is this something systemic with the way SETI as run? I'm happy to donate if it helps things, but not if it doesn't change anything. What exactly is the plan?

Im no expert at the real issue but it seems to be something with the way the servers are connected to the net. If its a cabling issue, that would be a some what easy fix. I think over all, the servers need a better way of connecting to the net. It could be a router issue but if im not mistake, SETI has a very fast router.
Like I stated above. I'm no expert on any of this and there are some in the community with much more knowledge about this.

Im sure some one will give more details when they read this.


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Message 868134 - Posted: 22 Feb 2009, 18:25:11 UTC

The basic botleneck is the 100 meg cable between the campus and the Seti closet. They would need a 1 gig fiber optic connection up the hill. This will cost aprox. $100k+ to set up. They already have a 1 gig account with their ISP. In the long run, I'm sure that this would also require additional upgrades at the server end.
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Message 868136 - Posted: 22 Feb 2009, 18:26:32 UTC - in response to Message 868128.  

Thanks everyone :)

What are "the issues" with bandwidth, specifically? Can they be resolved by throwing $$ at them, or is this something systemic with the way SETI as run? I'm happy to donate if it helps things, but not if it doesn't change anything. What exactly is the plan?

I'm no expert at the real issue but it seems to be something with the way the servers are connected to the net. If its a cabling issue, that would be a some what easy fix. I think over all, the servers need a better way of connecting to the net. It could be a router issue but if I'm not mistaken, SETI has a very fast router.
Like I stated above. I'm no expert on any of this and there are some in the community with much more knowledge about this.

I'm sure some one will give more details when they read this.


The issue here is one of bandwidth and the cable linking Seti to some part of the campus somewhere is near capacity as It's copper as I've read elsewhere and It needs to be replaced with a Fiber optic cable and whatever is needed to make the fiber work on each end transparently with the campus, Which the Campus won't pay for. So the project suffers and suffering leads to the dark side.
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Message 868138 - Posted: 22 Feb 2009, 18:33:54 UTC - in response to Message 868134.  

The basic botleneck is the 100 meg cable between the campus and the Seti closet. They would need a 1 gig fiber optic connection up the hill. This will cost aprox. $100k+ to set up. They already have a 1 gig account with their ISP. In the long run, I'm sure that this would also require additional upgrades at the server end.

You need a router at each end that can route at gigabit speed with a gigabit interface.

If I understand this, there are other projects in the lab that would benefit from a faster "wire" -- it isn't an exclusively-SETI facility.
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Message 868142 - Posted: 22 Feb 2009, 18:41:01 UTC - in response to Message 868138.  

The basic botleneck is the 100 meg cable between the campus and the Seti closet. They would need a 1 gig fiber optic connection up the hill. This will cost aprox. $100k+ to set up. They already have a 1 gig account with their ISP. In the long run, I'm sure that this would also require additional upgrades at the server end.

You need a router at each end that can route at gigabit speed with a gigabit interface.

If I understand this, there are other projects in the lab that would benefit from a faster "wire" -- it isn't an exclusively-SETI facility.

True, but their requirements are miniscule compared to Seti.
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Message 868144 - Posted: 22 Feb 2009, 18:43:17 UTC - in response to Message 868138.  

The basic bottleneck is the 100 meg cable between the campus and the Seti closet. They would need a 1 gig fiber optic connection up the hill. This will cost approx. $100k+ to set up. They already have a 1 gig account with their ISP. In the long run, I'm sure that this would also require additional upgrades at the server end.

You need a router at each end that can route at gigabit speed with a gigabit interface.

If I understand this, there are other projects in the lab that would benefit from a faster "wire" -- it isn't an exclusively-SETI facility.

$100,000.00 that's a good sized chunk of change and @ $5 each that would mean 20,000 donations, $10 would make It 10,000 donations of course, So It's a long road, If people could do $50 donations towards this then It would only require 2,000 donations and so on.
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Message 868146 - Posted: 22 Feb 2009, 18:44:29 UTC - in response to Message 868084.  

Yup - $5 does it for me, they lay out a special donation project ring fencing this to the cable issue they have, they get the dosh. It must be ring fenced tho or no dosh.

Remember that the solution to the bandwidth problem might not be "cable" per se.
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Message 868150 - Posted: 22 Feb 2009, 18:51:57 UTC - in response to Message 868146.  

So what is it, then?
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Message 868151 - Posted: 22 Feb 2009, 18:54:55 UTC
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It has to be mostly the cable issue.. If they are limmited to 100meg even tho they have a 1GBS connection, it's a waste.

well.. if we can get the 100k raised, then maybe the campus will 'spring' for the last of the cost. 100k sounds astounding but in numbers its nothing really..
100k/5 is only 20k so 20,000 need to donate a lousy 5 bucks and this could could come to life.
Or.. 10,000 donate 10.00
Or.. 5,000 donate 20.00
Or.. 1,000 donate 100.00
Maybe we should call this the 100k donation thread.. lol
Its NOT impossible!! Its just hard to get people to spend with times being tight right now but really... $5.00 is the cost of a pak of smokes and less than a meal at McDonalds :) SHARE YOUR TAX REFUND!
I just baught a new (used)Pentium D 950 to do more work with.. Now I am going to spend the 10 bucks to make sure I have that work to do! Its only logical!

Lets get this CABLE PEOPLE!
DONATE $5.00 NOW and make this project run at mach 10!
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Message 868153 - Posted: 22 Feb 2009, 19:01:51 UTC - in response to Message 868151.  
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It has to be mostly the cable issue.. If they are limited to 100meg even tho they have a 1GBS connection, it's a waste.

well.. if we can get the 100k raised, then maybe the campus will 'spring' for the last of the cost. 100k sounds astounding but in numbers its nothing really..
100k/5 is only 20k so 20,000 need to donate a lousy 5 bucks and this could could come to life.
Or.. 10,000 donate 10.00
Or.. 5,000 donate 20.00
Or.. 1,000 donate 100.00
Maybe we should call this the 100k donation thread.. lol
Its NOT impossible!! Its just hard to get people to spend with times being tight right now but really... $5.00 is the cost of a pak of smokes and less than a meal at McDonalds :) SHARE YOUR TAX REFUND!
Lets get this CABLE PEOPLE!
DONATE $5.00 NOW and make this project run at mach 10!

There are two known connections, the Campus(1000) and Seti's connection to the campus(100), One is smaller than the other of course.

No It just looks like It is, But I'm in on the 27th, If I can push more than $10(as much as $50) ok, If not then $10 It is.

Due to Budget cuts, Mach 10 is not possible, So We'll have to settle for the Mach 5 instead.
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Message 868154 - Posted: 22 Feb 2009, 19:04:49 UTC - in response to Message 868153.  
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I wonder what the cost would be to bypass the campus and just get a 1GBS connection just for the closet.. hummmm.

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Message 868155 - Posted: 22 Feb 2009, 19:06:50 UTC - in response to Message 868154.  

I wonder what the cost would be to bypass the campus and just get a 1GBS connection just for the closet.. hummmm.

That's an idea, But I don't know if the campus would allow It, If I'm wrong ok.
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Message 868158 - Posted: 22 Feb 2009, 19:08:38 UTC - in response to Message 868153.  

Since I've always wished to donate but have previously been unable to, I've sent in $100.00. Hope this will help in some small way. Also my way of saying thank you to all those on the boards who have helped me with one newb type question or another as well thanks to developers, mods and administrators etc, etc. You know who you are.

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