Fun with the same tired old Status Quo!!
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 StormKing  Send message Joined: 6 Nov 00 Posts: 456 Credit: 2,887,579 RAC: 0 
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It's a shame that the "discourse" on this and other of the Politics boards have frequently become nothing more than a cut and paste from online articles and blogs that have clearly been written by others. The status quo is dead! Long live the status quo! ID: 876413 ·  |
skildude  Send message Joined: 4 Oct 00 Posts: 9541 Credit: 50,759,529 RAC: 60 
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It's a shame that the "discourse" on this and other of the Politics boards have frequently become nothing more than a cut and paste from online articles and blogs that have clearly been written by others. I was thinking the same thing. I sat here and thought, "why am I attempting to have discourse with people that copy and paste articles and provide nothing else." It's as if they know to read it but are unable to interpret the opinions of others. Kinda sad really. no real discourse just, "see this guy is writes articles which makes him right!"  In a rich man's house there is no place to spit but his face. Diogenes Of Sinope ID: 876719 · |
Fuzzy Hollynoodles  Send message Joined: 3 Apr 99 Posts: 9659 Credit: 251,998 RAC: 0 |
It's a shame that the "discourse" on this and other of the Politics boards have frequently become nothing more than a cut and paste from online articles and blogs that have clearly been written by others. Ditto! It really is sad that some people are not able to express themselves and their opinions without quoting from some websites and refer to other people's opinions. "I'm trying to maintain a shred of dignity in this world." - Me 
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Misfit  Send message Joined: 21 Jun 01 Posts: 21804 Credit: 2,815,091 RAC: 0
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It's a shame that the "discourse" on this and other of the Politics boards have frequently become nothing more than a cut and paste from online articles and blogs that have clearly been written by others. It looks like the debate is over for a while. Status quo indeed. me@rescam.org ID: 876763 · |
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skildude Send message Joined: 4 Oct 00 Posts: 9541 Credit: 50,759,529 RAC: 60
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I beg to differ!!! ;)It's a shame that the "discourse" on this and other of the Politics boards have frequently become nothing more than a cut and paste from online articles and blogs that have clearly been written by others. In a rich man's house there is no place to spit but his face. Diogenes Of Sinope ID: 876877 · |
jason_gee  Send message Joined: 24 Nov 06 Posts: 7489 Credit: 91,093,184 RAC: 0 
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Fun with the same tired old Status Quo!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=krK7Q49o6uA "Living by the wisdom of computer science doesn't sound so bad after all. And unlike most advice, it's backed up by proofs." -- Algorithms to live by: The computer science of human decisions. ID: 876910 · |
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StormKing Send message Joined: 6 Nov 00 Posts: 456 Credit: 2,887,579 RAC: 0
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Top recipients of AIG campaign contributions: Note that the person at the top of the list is the senator who admitted to adding the language that allowed AIG to use the funds for executive bonuses. Dodd, Chris (D-Conn) $281,038 Bush, George W (R-Texas) $200,560 Schumer, Charles E (D-NY) $111,875 Obama, Barack (D-Ill) $110,332 McCain, John (R-Ariz) $99,249 Baucus, Max (D-Mont) $90,000 Kerry, John (D-Mass) $85,000 Johnson, Nancy L (R-Conn $75,400 Sununu, John E (R-NH) $69,049 Clinton, Hillary (D-NY) $61,51 ID: 877101 · |
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Terror Australis Send message Joined: 14 Feb 04 Posts: 1817 Credit: 262,693,308 RAC: 44
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Fun with the same tired old Status Quo!! You beat me to the punch Jason, but I was thinking of this one. Seemed the most appropriate :-) Brodo ID: 877196 · |
Gary Charpentier     Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30661 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32
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Top recipients of AIG campaign contributions: Note that the person at the top of the list is the senator who admitted to adding the language that allowed AIG to use the funds for executive bonuses. $200,560 to a man who didn't run for office? What are these, lifetime totals? What did they give last election? 
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StormKing Send message Joined: 6 Nov 00 Posts: 456 Credit: 2,887,579 RAC: 0
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Top recipients of AIG campaign contributions: Note that the person at the top of the list is the senator who admitted to adding the language that allowed AIG to use the funds for executive bonuses. Click the link Among Federal Candidates, 1989-2008 ID: 879367 · |
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skildude Send message Joined: 4 Oct 00 Posts: 9541 Credit: 50,759,529 RAC: 60
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Top recipients of AIG campaign contributions: Note that the person at the top of the list is the senator who admitted to adding the language that allowed AIG to use the funds for executive bonuses. that would have been nice to know up front. BTW thats a bit more than $4 million over 20 years that really doesnt seem to be that much compared to other companies. The Numbers represent numbers after the senior Bush was elected. A man deeply involved in the SEC. yet I digress. thats 5+ presidential election cycles. This really is a red Herring of an article. thats 10 election cycles including 5 presidential elections. that makes their footprint at a little more than $400,000 an election cycle. This seems about average for any company. Since they didn't really play favorites I just think they were doing what businesses do. In a rich man's house there is no place to spit but his face. Diogenes Of Sinope ID: 879409 · |
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StormKing Send message Joined: 6 Nov 00 Posts: 456 Credit: 2,887,579 RAC: 0
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Top recipients of AIG campaign contributions: Note that the person at the top of the list is the senator who admitted to adding the language that allowed AIG to use the funds for executive bonuses. The link was available up front, I was not hiding anything. ID: 879474 · |
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skildude Send message Joined: 4 Oct 00 Posts: 9541 Credit: 50,759,529 RAC: 60
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Top recipients of AIG campaign contributionsfrom 1989-2008 : Note that the person at the top of the list is the senator who admitted to adding the language that allowed AIG to use the funds for executive bonuses. See what happens when I add "from 1989-2008" It kinda takes the wind out of your argument. Clearly your point was to slam Chris Dodd and not point out that AIG gave away over $4 million to politicians over 20 years. From the data given its hard to tell when anyone got the money. Dodd has been a Senator since 1981. Using this data Dodd could have gotten about $14000 a year. not really much considering the time frame. Using it without the time frame of 20 years one erroneously can assume that the money was handed out recently. It may have but we can't tell with the information given In a rich man's house there is no place to spit but his face. Diogenes Of Sinope ID: 879537 · |
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StormKing Send message Joined: 6 Nov 00 Posts: 456 Credit: 2,887,579 RAC: 0
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Top recipients of AIG campaign contributionsfrom 1989-2008 : Note that the person at the top of the list is the senator who admitted to adding the language that allowed AIG to use the funds for executive bonuses. Chris Dodd recieved campaign contributions and did AIG some favors, isn't that obvious? Are you saying AIG recieved nothing for handing him $281,038? The time frame is irrelevant. Besides, I believe corporate campaign contributions equate to bribes anyway. Government should represent us no matter how much money we have. ID: 879560 · |
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skildude Send message Joined: 4 Oct 00 Posts: 9541 Credit: 50,759,529 RAC: 60
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the timeframe is quite relevant. He could have gotten the moeny in his first term or last term. if it was recent then it appears relevant. I'd like to know how many banks and financial institutions are deeply involved in campaigns. In a rich man's house there is no place to spit but his face. Diogenes Of Sinope ID: 879562 · |
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StormKing Send message Joined: 6 Nov 00 Posts: 456 Credit: 2,887,579 RAC: 0
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"I am staying a Republican because I think I have an important role -- a more important role -- to play there. I think the United States desperately needs a two-party system. It is the basis of politics in America. I think each of the 41 Republican senators, in a sense, and I don't want to overstate this, is a national asset, because if one was gone you would only have 40. The Democrats would have 60 and they would control all of the mechanisms of government." --Sen. Arlen Specter in March I do not think the American people will be happy with an all democrat government. Not because of policy choices but because if anything goes wrong, and something always goes wrong, there will be no one to blame but democrats. If I remember correctly, this is how the democrats lost their congressional majority in the 90's.  ID: 890630 · |
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skildude Send message Joined: 4 Oct 00 Posts: 9541 Credit: 50,759,529 RAC: 60
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"I am staying a Republican because I think I have an important role -- a more important role -- to play there. I think the United States desperately needs a two-party system. It is the basis of politics in America. I think each of the 41 Republican senators, in a sense, and I don't want to overstate this, is a national asset, because if one was gone you would only have 40. The Democrats would have 60 and they would control all of the mechanisms of government." --Sen. Arlen Specter in March Umm no You have newt gingrich and his neocon talk. Whats funny is the language he used to oust numerous Dems is now being used to demonize his own party. You gotta love fair play. In a rich man's house there is no place to spit but his face. Diogenes Of Sinope ID: 891187 · |
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StormKing Send message Joined: 6 Nov 00 Posts: 456 Credit: 2,887,579 RAC: 0
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"I am staying a Republican because I think I have an important role -- a more important role -- to play there. I think the United States desperately needs a two-party system. It is the basis of politics in America. I think each of the 41 Republican senators, in a sense, and I don't want to overstate this, is a national asset, because if one was gone you would only have 40. The Democrats would have 60 and they would control all of the mechanisms of government." --Sen. Arlen Specter in March "The government of the absolute majority is but the government of the strongest interests; and when not effectively checked, is the most tyrannical and oppressive that can be devised... [To read the Constitution is to realize that] no free system was ever farther removed from the principle that the absolute majority, without check or limitation, ought to govern." --American statesman John C. Calhoun (1782-1850) ID: 894300 · |
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HAL Send message Joined: 28 Mar 03 Posts: 704 Credit: 870,617 RAC: 0
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Looks like Obama is coming around to maintaining the status quo - waffling on the lobbyist reform rules. The only changes he's lived up to is More Taxes and Higher Debt.   Classic WU= 7,237 Classic Hours= 42,079 ID: 903701 · |
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Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30661 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32
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People of the USA, my enlightened neighbors to the south, you have I've got news for you. He is a Chicago Politician. The only change will be the names on the indictments.
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