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Message 861679 - Posted: 3 Feb 2009, 23:23:39 UTC - in response to Message 861674.  

So rush is still denying that the list he provided says what it actually says? for shame I'd think someone of his caliber would read what he provides.

Wow. I'm speechless. Giggling, but speechless.
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Message 861741 - Posted: 4 Feb 2009, 2:36:16 UTC - in response to Message 861679.  

So rush is still denying that the list he provided says what it actually says? for shame I'd think someone of his caliber would read what he provides.

Wow. I'm speechless. Giggling, but speechless.

OMG! He don't sez so!
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Message 861773 - Posted: 4 Feb 2009, 5:27:31 UTC - in response to Message 861673.  

What!!?? Obie filled the people's heads with empty rhetoric?? Say it isn't so!!


Daschle is out of game, your news are outdated

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Message 861783 - Posted: 4 Feb 2009, 6:16:24 UTC - in response to Message 861773.  

What!!?? Obie filled the people's heads with empty rhetoric?? Say it isn't so!!

Daschle is out of game, your news are outdated


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Message 861892 - Posted: 4 Feb 2009, 13:40:28 UTC - in response to Message 861773.  

What!!?? Obie filled the people's heads with empty rhetoric?? Say it isn't so!!


Daschle is out of game, your news are outdated


It's time Obie nominated people who could file their taxes!

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Message 861923 - Posted: 4 Feb 2009, 16:22:46 UTC

So is Obies dad a sheriff of a small Carolina community and best friends with a Deputy who's only bullet is kept in his breast pocket?


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Message 861947 - Posted: 4 Feb 2009, 17:46:21 UTC - in response to Message 861421.  
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Yes Father. What ever you say, Father.

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Message 861977 - Posted: 4 Feb 2009, 19:47:43 UTC - in response to Message 861892.  

Daschle is out of game, your news are outdated


It's time Obie nominated people who could file their taxes!


"Make no mistake, tax cheaters cheat us all, and the IRS should enforce our laws to the letter." --then-Sen. Tom Daschle on 7 May 1998
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Message 862071 - Posted: 4 Feb 2009, 23:22:18 UTC - in response to Message 861977.  

Daschle is out of game, your news are outdated

It's time Obie nominated people who could file their taxes!

"Make no mistake, tax cheaters cheat us all, and the IRS should enforce our laws to the letter." --then-Sen. Tom Daschle on 7 May 1998

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Message 862466 - Posted: 5 Feb 2009, 22:43:47 UTC
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they have new rules, surprise,change is real thing.
status quo is dead, long live dead.
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Message 862774 - Posted: 6 Feb 2009, 17:59:04 UTC - in response to Message 862466.  
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they have new rules, surprise,change is real thing.
status quo is dead, long live dead.


The status quo lives on!

"I can pledge to you that no earmark or any of that, any description you want to make of it, will be in the bill that passes the House. ... There will be no earmarks in the economic recovery package that passes the House." --Nancy Pelosi

Thursday, it came to light that the husband of Labor secretary nominee Hilda Solis paid more than $6,000 this week to clear up a tax lien going back 16 years. It seems that the only way to get Democrats to pay their taxes is by nominating them or their spouses for the Obama cabinet.

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Message 863855 - Posted: 9 Feb 2009, 17:53:35 UTC
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The man behind a curtain and the status quo

"Now that Tim Geithner has been confirmed as Treasury Secretary, Tom Daschle has withdrawn as HHS Secretary and Nancy Killefer has withdrawn from some government post I had never even heard of (chief performance officer?), we can infer some new rules in our changed government. 1. It is OK to cheat on taxes, but of course there is a limit. And that limit is more than $34,000 but less than $128,000 in taxes owed if you are a Democrat. (For Republicans, the limit remains the perception of thinking about adding $100 to your charitable deductions without the receipts to back it up.) 2. We now have a new way to get tax cheats to not only pay up, but to apologize for their errors and carelessness: nominate them to Cabinet posts. ... 3. We might have a new method to elicit information and apologies from enemy combatants without resorting to torture, sleep deprivation, stress positions or defiled Korans: nominate them to Cabinet posts. ... 4. When we are desperate enough (as in the current economic crisis, or at any time in the last 80 years), neither competence nor ethics matter in a nominee as much as speed of confirmation. If you either can't do your own taxes correctly, or refuse to do them honestly, you can still be put in charge of tax audits and collection. If we ever have a crime crisis, for example, Charles Manson stands a good shot to head the FBI. 5. Of course one lesson is the obvious one: if you thought 'change' meant getting competent and honest people with no ties to special interests into influential government positions, you can now consider yourself suckered. I put the lesson this way: you vote for a Wizard, but you get a man behind a curtain." --columnist Randall Hoven
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Message 864373 - Posted: 11 Feb 2009, 16:59:31 UTC

Partisan politics at it's best. Did you expect anything different?

"President Obama has started to play the 'catastrophe' card to sell his economic stimulus plan, using [last week's] terrible January jobs report to predict doom unless Congress acts. ...[T]he tragedy of this first great effort of the Obama Presidency is what a lost opportunity it is. ... The stage was ... set for the popular President to forge a bipartisan consensus that combined ideas from both parties. A major cut in the corporate tax favored by Republicans could have been added to Democratic public works spending for a quick political triumph that might have done at least some economic good. Instead, Mr. Obama chose to let House Democrats write the bill, and they did what comes naturally: They cleaned out their intellectual cupboards and wrote a bill that is 90% social policy, and 10% economic policy. ... So there it is: Mr. Obama is now endorsing a sort of reductionist Keynesianism that argues that any government spending is an economic stimulus." --The Wall Street Journal
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Message 866236 - Posted: 16 Feb 2009, 20:32:44 UTC
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Presidential status quo. Seems familier... wasn't Cheney treated this way?

"Obama's first presidential news conference was performed feebly by the once-ferocious White House press corps and shrewdly -- if deceptively -- by the president. ... Only Major Garrett of Fox News raised even a slightly embarrassing question: What was Vice President Joe Biden referring to when he said the administration had a 30 percent chance of failing at some initiative? And I must confess that if I had been the vice president, I would not have been happy with the president's answer, which was, in essence: I don't know what Biden was talking about, but that sounds like him. It can't be good that the president is making his vice president the public butt of his snickering after only three weeks in office. Not that it is Biden's fault. Along with a fair amount of blarney, Joe Biden also makes more honest and candid observations in an afternoon than many politicians make in a lifetime. One comes away from a conversation with Biden with at least one truthful nugget. The same cannot be said for President Obama." --columnist Tony Blankley

And there's more!

"In more good news for the Democratic Party, it turns out that Sen. Roland Burris (D-Il) may have not been exactly forthcoming in answering questions about his dealings with former Illinois Governor (but still a Democrat) Rod Blagojevich before he was appointed to fill the vacancy created by the election of Barack Obama. According to Politico.com, 'In an affidavit made public on Saturday, [that would be this past Saturday, about a month after he was sworn in as a U.S. Senator] Burris for the first time said that he had been solicited for campaign contributions by the brother of Gov. Rod Blagojevich, who named him to the seat.' So, now, Burris is 'facing a possible perjury investigation in his home state; and his [U.S.] Senate colleagues may face new pressure to launch an Ethics Committee probe to determine whether he should be expelled from the body.' Perhaps a reporter following the President on his Obama Stimulatic Victory Tour will ask him about Sen. Burris, a fellow Democrat, from Illinois, who is now sitting in his Senate seat, neglecting to tell the whole truth and nothing but..." --political analyst Rich Galen
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Message 866516 - Posted: 17 Feb 2009, 15:52:32 UTC

the majority voted for him, so you live in democracy and you should respect the outcome, and if you wanna chances, make sure that your canditate next time is better.
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Message 866524 - Posted: 17 Feb 2009, 16:45:05 UTC - in response to Message 866516.  

the majority voted for him, so you live in democracy and you should respect the outcome, and if you wanna chances, make sure that your canditate next time is better.


We should always be critical of our government. No matter who is in power.
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Message 866547 - Posted: 17 Feb 2009, 22:18:18 UTC

so that is why bush was voted for second term
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Message 867118 - Posted: 19 Feb 2009, 18:37:41 UTC
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With Obie's lack of experience, is he "winging it" ?

OPINION FEBRUARY 18, 2009, 11:48 P.M. ET
Is the Administration Winging It?
Obama's reputation for competence is at risk.

Team Obama demonstrated remarkable discipline during the presidential campaign. From raising an unprecedented amount of money to milking every advantage from the Internet to grabbing lots of delegates from inexpensive caucus states, they left nothing to chance.

And now the administration has scored a major legislative victory in an extraordinarily short period of time. Less than 700 hours after taking the oath of office, President Barack Obama signed the largest spending bill in American history.

Nevertheless, this fast start can't overcome a growing sense the administration is winging it on issues large and small.

Take the vetting of cabinet nominees. Mr. Obama's aides ignored a federal investigation of New Mexico's Gov. Bill Richardson that started last August for a possible pay-for-play scandal. Mr. Richardson had to withdraw after being named to become secretary of commerce.

The administration treated as inconsequential the failure of its choices for Treasury secretary and White House performance officer, as well as its labor secretary-designate's spouse, to pay taxes. It failed to uncover Tom Daschle's problems with more than $102,943 in previously unpaid taxes, penalties and interest -- and once it did, aides assumed Mr. Daschle would be given a pass.

Team Obama promised Gen. Anthony Zinni he'd be ambassador to Iraq, then cut him loose without explanation. After the Bill Richardson fiasco, it romanced Republican Sen. Judd Gregg for commerce secretary -- then ignored his advice on the stimulus and wouldn't trust him with running the department, moving supervision of the Census into the White House. Mr. Gregg withdrew himself from consideration.

Then there is the stimulus itself. Mr. Obama's economic team met with congressional leaders in December to green light a bill costing up to $850 billion. But they described less than $200 billion of what they wanted in the envelope. In return for outsourcing the bill's drafting to Congress, the administration took on two responsibilities: running polls to advise Hill Democrats on how to sharpen their marketing, and putting the president on the road to sell a bill others wrote.

Team Obama was winging it when it declared the stimulus would "save or create" 2.5 million, then three million, then 3.7 million, and then four million new jobs. These were arbitrary and erratic numbers, and they knew there's no way to count "saved" jobs. Americans, being commonsensical, will focus on Mr. Obama's promise to "create" jobs. It's highly unlikely that more than 180,000 jobs will be created each month by the end of next year. The precise, state-by-state job numbers the administration used to sell the stimulus are likely to come back to haunt them as well.

Bipartisanship? The administration failed even to respond to GOP offers to endorse an Obama campaign proposal to suspend capital gains taxes for new small businesses.

Inexplicably, the president, in a prime-time press conference, raised expectations for Treasury Secretary Tim Geithner's bank rescue plan, which turned out the next day to be no plan at all. The markets craved details; they got none. When markets cratered, spokesmen didn't acknowledge the administration's poor planning, but blamed the markets.

Team Obama was also winging it on enhanced interrogation of terrorists. First it nullified all the Bush administration's legal authorities before considering what rules it should have in place. When the CIA briefed White House officials on the results obtained from these techniques, the administration backtracked and organized a four-month study of what rules were appropriate.

Something similar happened with the promise to close Guantanamo Bay within a year: The administration has no idea what it will do with the violent terrorists detained there. And on ethics, Mr. Obama proclaimed an end to lobbyist influence in government -- even as he was nominating lobbyists for major posts and filling White House ranks with former lobbyists.

Team Obama has been living off its campaign reputation for planning and execution. That reputation is now frayed, and all the bumbling and unforced errors will have an impact. Such things don't go unnoticed on Capitol Hill or in foreign capitals.

The president, a bright and skilled politician, has plenty of time to recover. The danger is that what we have seen is not an aberration, but the early indications of his governing style. Barack Obama won the job he craved, now he must demonstrate that he and his team are up to its requirements. The signs are worrisome. The world is a dangerous place. The days of winging it need to end.

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Message 867193 - Posted: 19 Feb 2009, 22:37:04 UTC - in response to Message 866547.  

so that is why bush was voted for second term


No its because you can't fix stupid.



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Message 867416 - Posted: 20 Feb 2009, 19:55:53 UTC

Hope 'n' Change: Democrats demand their own version of a recount

Next year, our nation will begin its once-a-decade assessment of the U.S. population, a task that is normally handled by the Census Bureau, an arm of the Commerce Department. But that, too, could change.

After being tapped by Barack Obama to head Commerce, Sen. Judd Gregg (R-NH) was the subject of complaints by minority groups and Democrats (but we repeat ourselves), as many screamed in protest about a Republican "politicizing" the census and allegedly undercounting the number of inner-city, poor and minority Americans. Gregg subsequently withdrew his nomination over disagreement with the stimulus bill and the census, making the point moot -- to a certain extent.
The push to take the census away from the Department of Commerce and place it under the auspices of the White House raises serious questions about how accurate the next census will be. In other words, politicized. With all the things the census is used for, along with $300 billion in funding at stake, it's obvious that the count needs to be done as fairly as possible. Yet Obama's change could include a bid to use statistical sampling to make up for the supposed undercounting of affected (read: Democrat-voting) groups in the aftermath of the 2010 census.

It is obvious that Democrats want to preclude as much as possible the shift of congressional seats away from states that traditionally have been their strongholds into those that have favored Republicans. Even so, the probability of gerrymandering to pack as many Republicans into as few districts as possible on a state level will remain as the Supreme Court decided in a 1999 case. That case said that while congressional districts couldn't be determined using sampling, the states themselves could use sampling as they saw fit to determine state legislative boundaries. And all the while one can only speculate about the furor that would have ensued if George W. Bush had turned the census over to Karl Rove...
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