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Message 857842 - Posted: 25 Jan 2009, 23:36:47 UTC
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Congress is there to legislate, Obama can enter a bill into Congress all He likes and see It die for lack of enough support for passage in both the House and the Senate, Just like reforming SSDI as they'd have to grandfather people like Me into It and Congress I'm told doesn't like to do that much(If ever) which means to Me that some in Congress don't like the Disabled, Just like Californias Governor seems to be. ;p

The reason why most of the time they do nothing is cause the people elected to Congress don't know what people that elected the representatives to the Congress and the Senate want on a particular issue, Big stuff that relates to what the Federal Government is supposed to do is I gather, easier.
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Message 857850 - Posted: 25 Jan 2009, 23:47:35 UTC - in response to Message 857842.  
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Congress is there to legislate, Obama can enter a bill into Congress all He likes and see It die for lack of enough support for passage in both the House and the Senate, Just like reforming SSDI as they'd have to grandfather people like Me into It and Congress I'm told doesn't like to do that much(If ever) which means to Me that some in Congress don't like the Disabled, Just like Californias Governor seems to be. ;p

The reason why most of the time they do nothing is cause the people elected to Congress don't know what people that elected the representatives to the Congress and the Senate want on a particular issue, Big stuff that relates to what the Federal Government is supposed to do is I gather, easier.


Democrats have the majority in the Senate and House. If Obama wanted to, it wouldn't be difficult for him to initiate on a bill passing spree. Republicans should be grateful that he is considering them...

(I'm an independent, with a slight Republican leaning on fiscal issues and defense. I did vote for, *cough*, Bush, but voted for Obama last November. The Republican Party seriously needs to fix itself.)
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Message 857876 - Posted: 26 Jan 2009, 0:41:08 UTC - in response to Message 857850.  
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Congress is there to legislate, Obama can enter a bill into Congress all He likes and see It die for lack of enough support for passage in both the House and the Senate, Just like reforming SSDI as they'd have to grandfather people like Me into It and Congress I'm told doesn't like to do that much(If ever) which means to Me that some in Congress don't like the Disabled, Just like Californias Governor seems to be. ;p

The reason why most of the time they do nothing is cause the people elected to Congress don't know what people that elected the representatives to the Congress and the Senate want on a particular issue, Big stuff that relates to what the Federal Government is supposed to do is I gather, easier.


Democrats have the majority in the Senate and House. If Obama wanted to, it wouldn't be difficult for him to initiate on a bill passing spree. Republicans should be grateful that he is considering them...

(I'm an independent, with a slight Republican leaning on fiscal issues and defense. I did vote for, *cough*, Bush, but voted for Obama last November. The Republican Party seriously needs to fix itself.)

Democrats have said, they don't do Obamas bidding, He can suggest and such, But I suspect not much more.

I'm a Republican with an Independent streak(I used to be an Independent with a slight Republican streak, So It balances out), And I'm a bit of a fiscal conservative too and yes I like a Good Defense, As the Best Defense is the ability to have a well prepared Offensive capability, Otherwise Disaster. :o
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Message 858253 - Posted: 26 Jan 2009, 21:15:47 UTC

Perhaps the start of a new hope?...

Obama to put Bush car pollution policies into reverse

"President Obama, with these actions, will have done more for oil independence in one week than George Bush did in eight years"

... And reduced CO2 pollution...

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Message 858286 - Posted: 26 Jan 2009, 22:51:25 UTC

at last you got president with brains
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Message 858322 - Posted: 27 Jan 2009, 0:21:28 UTC - in response to Message 858253.  

Perhaps the start of a new hope?...

Obama to put Bush car pollution policies into reverse

"President Obama, with these actions, will have done more for oil independence in one week than George Bush did in eight years"

... And reduced CO2 pollution...

Keep searchin',
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It's possible, As lots of states have California smog standards, Maybe Obama ought to have the EPA adopt them too. :D
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Message 858376 - Posted: 27 Jan 2009, 1:40:34 UTC - in response to Message 858322.  

It's possible, As lots of states have California smog standards, Maybe Obama ought to have the EPA adopt them too. :D

Obama wants to re-examine emissions rule
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Message 858378 - Posted: 27 Jan 2009, 1:43:38 UTC

President Obama's move toward transparency a welcome change

Union-Tribune editorial

2:00 a.m. January 26, 2009

The notion that the public's business should, with the rarest of exceptions, be conducted in public seems so fundamental to democracy as to warrant little discussion.

Unfortunately, many public servants – from San Diego school trustees to some of the highest-ranking figures in the land – seem to believe that the less information available to the public, the better. Notable among the latter was George W. Bush.

Early in the Bush administration, John Ashcroft, the attorney general, directed government information officers to comb the Freedom of Information Act for all possible reasons to deny requests for information. That action reversed the policy of the Clinton administration, in which Attorney General Janet Reno had directed that information should be presumed releasable unless there was “foreseeable harm” in giving the public access.

The Bush administration has been called by critics the most secretive in history. That is hard to quantify, but there is no shortage of examples of contorted efforts by its officials to keep information from the public.

That is why we welcome the resolute steps by President Barack Obama, on his first full day in office, to end the obfuscatory practices of the Bush administration and return to the notion that open government is the best government. “Transparency and the rule of law will be the touchstones,” the president said before signing executive orders and memoranda making it easier to gain access to government information.

By issuing his own memorandum overturning the Bush-Ashcroft approach to Freedom of Information Act requests, Obama gave the new policy significant heft. A return to secrecy would have to be directly ordered by a subsequent president.

Obama took an additional welcome step toward openness by issuing an executive order giving the public greater access to the records of previous administrations. The order reversed one issued by Bush that allowed former presidents and vice presidents to claim executive privilege after leaving office. Now, only the sitting president will decide whether such records should be withheld, presumably limiting improper claims of secrecy to prevent embarrassment or for some other inappropriate reason.

“In the face of doubt, openness prevails,” Obama wrote. Such a simple, sensible directive. We'll we watching to see if his administration lives up to it.
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Message 858713 - Posted: 28 Jan 2009, 1:39:05 UTC

Will Obama save liberalism?

By William Kristol
THE NEW YORK TIMES

January 27, 2009

All good things must come to an end. Jan. 20, 2009, marked the end of a conservative era.

Since Ronald Reagan's election in 1980, conservatives of various sorts, and conservatisms of various stripes, have generally been in the ascendancy. And a good thing, too! Conservatives have been right more often than not – and more often than liberals – about most of the important issues of the day: about communism and jihadism, crime and welfare, education and the family. Conservative policies have on the whole worked – insofar as any set of policies can be said to “work” in the real world. Conservatives of the Reagan-Bush-Gingrich-Bush years have a fair amount to be proud of.

They also have some regrets. They'll have time to ponder those as liberals now take their chance to govern.

Lest conservatives be too proud, it's worth recalling that conservatism's rise was decisively enabled by liberalism's weakness. That weakness was manifested by liberalism's limp reaction to the challenge from the new left in the 1960s, became more broadly evident during the 1970s, and culminated in the fecklessness of the Carter administration at the end of that decade.

In 1978, the Harvard political philosopher Harvey Mansfield diagnosed the malady: “From having been the aggressive doctrine of vigorous, spirited men, liberalism has become hardly more than a trembling in the presence of illiberalism. . . . Who today is called a liberal for strength and confidence in defense of liberty?”

Over the next three decades, it was modern conservatism, led at the crucial moment by Ronald Reagan, that assumed the task of defending liberty with strength and confidence. Can a revived liberalism, faced with a new set of challenges, now pick up that mantle?

The answer lies in the hands of one man: the 44th president. If Reagan's policies had failed, or if he hadn't been politically successful, the conservative ascendancy would have been nipped in the bud. So with President Obama today. Liberalism's fate rests to an astonishing degree on his shoulders. If he governs successfully, we're in a new political era. If not, the country will be open to new conservative alternatives.

We don't really know how Barack Obama will govern. What we have so far, mainly, is an inaugural address, and it suggests that he may have learned more from Reagan than he has sometimes let on. Obama's speech was unabashedly pro-American and implicitly conservative.

Obama appealed to the authority of “our forebears,” “our founding documents,” even – political correctness alert! – “our Founding Fathers.” He emphasized that “we will not apologize for our way of life nor will we waver in its defense.” He spoke almost not at all about rights (he had one mention of “the rights of man,” paired with “the rule of law” in the context of a discussion of the Constitution). He called for “a new era of responsibility.”

And he appealed to “the father of our nation” who, before leading his army across the Delaware on Christmas night in 1776, allegedly “ordered these words be read to the people: 'Let it be told to the future world that in the depth of winter, when nothing but hope and virtue could survive, that the city and the country, alarmed at one common danger, came forth to meet it.' ”

For some reason, Obama didn't identify the author of “these timeless words” – the only words quoted in the entire speech. He's Thomas Paine, and the passage comes from the first in his series of Revolutionary War tracts, “The Crisis.” Obama chose to cloak his quotation from the sometimes intemperate Paine in the authority of the respectable George Washington.

Sixty-seven years ago, a couple of months after Pearl Harbor, at the close of a long radio address on the difficult course of the struggle we had just entered upon, another liberal president, Franklin Delano Roosevelt, also told the story of Washington ordering that “The Crisis” be read aloud, and also quoted Paine. But he turned to the more famous – and more stirring – passage with which Paine begins his essay:

“These are the times that try men's souls. The summer soldier and the sunshine patriot will, in this crisis, shrink from the service of their country; but he that stands by it now, deserves the love and thanks of man and woman. Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered; yet we have this consolation with us, that the harder the conflict, the more glorious the triumph.”

That exhortation was appropriate for World War II. Today, the dangers are less stark, and the conflicts less hard. Still, there will be trying times during Obama's presidency, and liberty will need staunch defenders. Can Obama reshape liberalism to be, as it was under FDR, a fighting faith, unapologetically patriotic and strong in the defense of liberty? That would be a service to our country.
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Message 858830 - Posted: 28 Jan 2009, 6:11:24 UTC - in response to Message 858828.  

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Funny, Obama a chain smoker, MAD certainly does come up with some crazy stuff. :)
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Message 858836 - Posted: 28 Jan 2009, 6:19:40 UTC - in response to Message 858830.  

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Funny, Obama a chain smoker, MAD certainly does come up with some crazy stuff. :)

The honeymoon is over.
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Message 858854 - Posted: 28 Jan 2009, 7:10:37 UTC - in response to Message 858836.  

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Funny, Obama a chain smoker, MAD certainly does come up with some crazy stuff. :)

The honeymoon is over.

The President did ask Democrats to remove one piece of legislation from the Stimulus and they agreed they would remove It as He'd asked.
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Message 858944 - Posted: 28 Jan 2009, 17:00:24 UTC
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"Beware the greedy hand of government, thrusting itself into every corner and crevice of industry." --Thomas Paine


Demo economic plan

"The stimulus package being discussed is politically smart but economically stupid. It's that bedeviling, omnipresent Santa Claus and Tooth Fairy problem again. ... A far more important measure that Congress can take toward a healthy economy is to ensure that the 2003 tax cuts don't expire in 2010 as scheduled. If not, there are 15 separate taxes scheduled to rise in 2010, costing Americans $200 billion a year in increased taxes. In the face of a recession, we don't need that." --economist Walter E. Williams
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Message 858968 - Posted: 28 Jan 2009, 17:58:38 UTC - in response to Message 858944.  
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"Beware the greedy hand of government, thrusting itself into every corner and crevice of industry." --Thomas Paine


Demo economic plan

"The stimulus package being discussed is politically smart but economically stupid. It's that bedeviling, omnipresent Santa Claus and Tooth Fairy problem again. ... A far more important measure that Congress can take toward a healthy economy is to ensure that the 2003 tax cuts don't expire in 2010 as scheduled. If not, there are 15 separate taxes scheduled to rise in 2010, costing Americans $200 billion a year in increased taxes. In the face of a recession, we don't need that." --economist Walter E. Williams

If someone could've they'd have tinted the skin a Greenish tint by now, Like in the Wizard of OZ, aka the Wicked Witch of the West, I'm sure someone would get a laugh out of It. ;)

And I don't mean anything bad by this post in any case as One of the People I respected the Most was someone of African-America Heritage Whom I respected and liked as She was nice to Me and helpful. :D
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Message 858971 - Posted: 28 Jan 2009, 18:26:17 UTC

Observing ones economic experience may justify recent comments.
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Message 859025 - Posted: 28 Jan 2009, 21:21:03 UTC
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thank god that the last three post are from experienced economics
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Message 859819 - Posted: 30 Jan 2009, 19:04:20 UTC

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