change will happen in the Muslim world, It's only a matter of time.

Sounds like 'conversion by the sword' to me... but not by Muslims... ;)

(And with not even the slightest hint of remorse, for what YOU have done!)

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It may not be 1984 but George Orwell sure did see the future . . .

(the Apaches were much better Warriors than Al-gaeda, But they were no match for US Troops and Technology, They just knew the land really good and had a fantastic leader, Perhaps You've heard of Him? His name was Geronimo. They are now US Citizens, Before that they feared they'd be enslaved, Now they are protected and Free)

On white man's paper maybe.

The reality is their lands were stolen. They were rounded up and herded like animals to undesirable places. They were only allowed slave wages at useless jobs. They were more discriminated against than the people of African descent. The promises made by the United States in treaties were violated. The funds promised them were embezzled by the Government. The animals they hunted for food were wiped out by the white man. Government agents even today invade their land and kill them.

Don't give me crap that they are free and protected. Protected like put in a cage maybe!




And as for this stuff about US citizen, Last time I checked the Apache was a nation that had it own citizens. Maybe today the US offers dual citizenship, but you better check the Constitution for a phrase "Indians not taxed."

It is such a shame that the children of the European invaders can't see what they have done. Where are the Inca? Where are the Maya? These civilizations far surpassed what Europe had at the time.

Of course this is no different than what the vocal Muslim wants, to spread and conquer the entire surface of earth in the name of their God. They will be the next ten generations of mass murders in the name of God.

When will humans treat humans with respect?
< / rant off >

tomorrow, i hope
( it should have started yesterday already)

change will happen in the Muslim world, It's only a matter of time.

Sounds like 'conversion by the sword' to me... but not by Muslims... ;)

Only if they attack first!

if i read this threat, it sure don´t seem that it will start ever, unfortunately

Only if they attack first!

That's almost funny... ;)

(Muslims want to be left alone, warmongers are arrogant and needy! So once again, the math does not add up!)

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It may not be 1984 but George Orwell sure did see the future . . .

Only if they attack first!

That's almost funny... ;)

(Muslims want to be left alone, warmongers are arrogant and needy! So once again, the math does not add up!)

No whats funny is you actually believe what your saying. I'd be happy to leave the Muslims alone. What are we supposed to do however when they start knocking down our buildings with planes? Offer them gifts and convert to Muslim just so they won't kill us anymore? In a perfect world we would all be happy and live in peace, We would all be free to worship whatever diety as we see fit or if we wanted to just say we don't believe in God but this isn't a perfect world and sadly people kill each other in the name of their Gods.
You actually believe what your saying then go to Iran and tell a Muslim in the street you hate the Quran and think the book is full of lies and see what they do to you, While your at it tell them you think Allah sucks. Then maybe you'll believe while thier beheading you they want any one who doesn't follow the Muslim faith dead and that Peace with them is not possible unless they change thier view of non-muslims to something other than kill the non-believers.

The sad part is nothing has really changed since man has started walking the Earth, Man has killed man and will continue to do so, This I doubt will change in our lifetime, We can hope someday we will all learn to live in peace or we will simply go extinct like the dinos. Never mind looking to the stars for intelligent life we should try to find some here on Earth first hehe.

I'd be happy to leave the Muslims alone.

Here's an 'off the wall' thought: GET OUT OF THEIR COUNTRY... ;)

(But YOU can't do that because YOU are arrogant and YOU are needy of their OIL!)

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It may not be 1984 but George Orwell sure did see the future . . .

Only if they attack first!

That's almost funny... ;)

(Muslims want to be left alone, warmongers are arrogant and needy! So once again, the math does not add up!)

Yes, they want to take over the world quietly.

Nope---Radical Muslims NEVER go abroad to hurt people or hide...

The American Conservative-2003 (older but still relevant)

Planning another 9/11:

UK Telegraph Newspaper-9/13/2008

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Yes, they want to take over the world quietly.

Not much 'terror' in THAT... ;)

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It may not be 1984 but George Orwell sure did see the future . . .

I'd be happy to leave the Muslims alone.

Here's an 'off the wall' thought: GET OUT OF THEIR COUNTRY... ;)

(But YOU can't do that because YOU are arrogant and YOU are needy of their OIL!)

Depends on what country besides the Obvious two I'd think, Al-qaeda claims Spain and France are Muslim countries, Should non-Muslims leave there as well?

As non-Muslims won't pay a tax and won't just up and commit suicide as that's not something one would do, Unless one felt there was no hope and then It's still illegal.

Oh and on the Oil, Traditionally It's an economic transaction and since Iraq and Afghanistan are independent countries(Afghanistan and Iraq have Militaries that are for the moment controlled by others and in training until their fully ready to go It alone and are truly competent and able to fight their way out of a paper bag, Most Armies in the World would not last long against a fully trained and equipped Army, Retrain a Roman Legion of old with modern Gunpowder weapons and they would wipe out almost any Army on the surface of the Earth bar none(Successful battle depends on leadership skills too)), They make the decisions on what they'd like to happen, It doesn't mean action will take place as some governments are poor and are needy(Charity cases) and so must be helped and so must the economy of a country to deny the enemy of It's support and infrastructure.

Peace worldwide would be nice, But one Religion and one culture can never achieve that, Peace is achieved by providing a future and security on a world that's largely resource poor(Long Lasting Diplomacy where a person word is honored is valuable, If someone makes a Treaty with the intent of buying time before attacking again for conquest then that person and/or country is not honorable, One can die only once, But one can be in pain until they can't stand It anymore), Most of the Iron on Earth(not within It) came from very, very ancient asteroid impacts and Oil came from Dead Dinos, Plants and such, Land is finite as both Humans, Plants and Animals need a place to live and do so in a healthy manner normally, Humans need plants and Animals as without Natures gift this planet will die and so would We. The ultimate weapon was invented by Cavemen, Rocks, They just couldn't launch them from Orbit and so far We can't either, But 10Km Dino Killers gave rise to modern life and US and We are nothing compared to Dinos(We just survived by the slightest shred, Think fire, acid rain and 3 mile tall Tsunamis), The Dinos were masters of being lethal and in Your face whenever they were hungry(Slash, Slash, Chomp, Chomp, Gulp).

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The T1 Trust, PRR T1 Class 4-4-4-4 #5550, 1 of America's First HST's

(Successful battle depends on leadership skills too)

Maybe that's why you are losing the war in Iraq... ;)

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It may not be 1984 but George Orwell sure did see the future . . .

(Successful battle depends on leadership skills too)

Maybe that's why you are losing the war in Iraq... ;)

Losing? Who said that? You? You wouldn't know that, Unless You think Muslims are invincible and We ain't quaking in our boots, As insurgents are dying everyday, More than there are willing replacements, Children and old people make very poor replacements no matter how long they are trained as History shows(The Nazis tried that and lost in WWII).

Oh and If Muslims are winning, Why aren't our cities smoking rubble by now? Cause We're winning and know how to do It.

We have economic slow downs almost all the time, That's the nature of the beast, War isn't the cause of It, We had wars in 2 areas of the world during WWII and the US alone lost 106,000 soldiers and others like Russia suffered more than We did, But our economies continued on and during Korea and Vietnam It was no different, The economies kept moving on.

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The T1 Trust, PRR T1 Class 4-4-4-4 #5550, 1 of America's First HST's

You think Muslims are invincible

I don't, but God does... and for your sake, you had better hope that He was wrong... ;)

(If history has taught us anything, it is that Islam will not be defeated... But hey, good luck trying!)

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It may not be 1984 but George Orwell sure did see the future . . .

[Oh and If Muslims are winning, Why aren't our cities smoking rubble by now? Cause We're winning and know how to do It.



i feel sick,is this what we want.

You think Muslims are invincible

I don't, but God does... and for your sake, you had better hope that He was wrong... ;)

(If history has taught us anything, it is that Islam will not be defeated... But hey, good luck trying!)

And I also suppose Muslims are also 10' tall, Bullet proof and can't be killed, Yeah right, Dream on, the rest of the World out numbers Muslims about 5 to 1. But enough of that and as to History, In Europe they were pushed out, If there had been enough troops It wouldn't exist elsewhere either as they saw Islam as a threat back then, Be peaceful and assimilate into the local culture and most everybody will be as happy as can be expected, Isolation only builds distrust and worse eventually as History has shown already. I can accept peaceful Muslims and some do live around here, Do I care? No. I just do not like ones that Kill using suicide bombers or that preach Jihad, War is never Holy, Especially to God.

As to God, God does not favor one people over another, Man does that. Leave that what is unto God for God and don't presume that God favors anything but life, Human or otherwise.

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The T1 Trust, PRR T1 Class 4-4-4-4 #5550, 1 of America's First HST's

[quote]Nope---Radical Muslims NEVER go abroad to hurt people or hide...

The American Conservative-2003 (older but still relevant)



that writer mixed on purpose the fact that islam is not fastest growing religion, in europe, people move here to work and cause they mostly come
countries like turkey, or north africa, they are "muslims", that does not mean that people are converting muslims, and turkish people or north africa people don´t follow muslim rules as a rule, some does most not, i don´t like how last days these pages have turn to be anti-muslim pages, we are still people in one globe which barely support all, so we are better start to act like humans should or if E.T comes here, he finds barren world, and no sign of intelligence,
and if i am speaking truth, would not find it even today

[quote]Nope---Radical Muslims NEVER go abroad to hurt people or hide...

The American Conservative-2003 (older but still relevant)



that writer mixed on purpose the fact that Islam is not fastest growing religion, in Europe, people move here to work and cause they mostly come
countries like turkey, or north Africa, they are "Muslims", that does not mean that people are converting Muslims, and Turkish people or north Africa people don´t follow muslim rules as a rule, some does most not, i don´t like how last days these pages have turn to be anti-muslim pages, we are still people in one globe which barely support all, so we are better start to act like humans should or if E.T comes here, he finds barren world, and no sign of intelligence,
and if i am speaking truth, would not find it even today

I believe Blurf is not talking about peaceful Muslims, Turks just want to live as other Europeans do, In peace, Those from North Africa have some among them Who take the Koran way too seriously and who want nothing to do with assimilation, Only conquest and a return to 7th Century Islam, And that ain't going to happen.

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The T1 Trust, PRR T1 Class 4-4-4-4 #5550, 1 of America's First HST's

As to God, God does not favor one people over another

Try telling that to a Jewish person... ;)

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It may not be 1984 but George Orwell sure did see the future . . .

[quote]Nope---Radical Muslims NEVER go abroad to hurt people or hide...

The American Conservative-2003 (older but still relevant)



that writer mixed on purpose the fact that Islam is not fastest growing religion, in Europe, people move here to work and cause they mostly come
countries like turkey, or north Africa, they are "Muslims", that does not mean that people are converting Muslims, and Turkish people or north Africa people don´t follow muslim rules as a rule, some does most not, i don´t like how last days these pages have turn to be anti-muslim pages, we are still people in one globe which barely support all, so we are better start to act like humans should or if E.T comes here, he finds barren world, and no sign of intelligence,
and if i am speaking truth, would not find it even today

I believe Blurf is not talking about peaceful Muslims, Turks just want to live as other Europeans do, In peace, Those from North Africa have some among them Who take the Koran way too seriously and who want nothing to do with assimilation, Only conquest and a return to 7th Century Islam, And that ain't going to happen.

they could say you take your way of living too seriously