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The state of Hawaii has already produced the Certificate. There is nothing to this please find another conspiracy we can debunk The point is, the one he posted, probably the one you reference, is fake. The birth certificate doesn't have a raised seal. It isn't signed. No creases from folding are evident in the scanned version. In the zoomed-in view, there's a strange halo around the letters. The certificate number is blacked out. The date bleeding through from the back seems to say "2007," but the document wasn't released until 2008. The document is a "certification of birth," not a "certificate of birth." ![]() |
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The State Of Hawaii will not reproduce it because of a law. I don't even think Obama can ask the state to release it. Obama needs to release it him self. Obama's administration will be more secret than the last, just wait and see. |
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And your point is? Just look up his birth announcement in the local newspaper. |
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Anybody can put anything in a liberal paper. |
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And your point is? Oops I must have recycled that issue. me@rescam.org |
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Anybody can put anything in a liberal paper. Are you saying there has been a conspiracy going since 1961 to make him president?!! |
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No conspiracy, but a statement in the paper is no proof. |
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so if you travel to another country you will leave your passport to home since it is only statement in paper. you might encounter minor problems when you travel- |
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I guess you don't know the lingo. The paper is refering to news papers and not any sheet of paper. Your comment is very insulting. |
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Your comment is very insulting. That is his specialty. me@rescam.org |
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The paper is refering to news papers and not any sheet of paper. Unlike say a birth certificate that has maybe been sitting in a file somewhere or may have been replaced with some other piece of paper for a price. Then again several copies of the same edition of a newspaper from several different libraries tends to make one think it is as it was published, of course there is no way to know if the information content is accurate. |
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Obama, are you a natural-born citizen, as constitutionally prescribed in Article II, Section 1 and Amendment XX, Section 3, for the office of president? When the question of citizenship came up a year ago, I presumed that this issue was a "straw man" -- that your strategy was to send some adversaries on a rabbit trail to nowhere, only to release your official birth certificate just prior to the election. But you didn't do that. I believe that you were born in Honolulu, but after inquiring at the hospital where you say you were born, they could not produce any birth records or tell me who the attending OB might have been. Of course, 1961 is many years past. What you are passing off as a "birth certificate" is actually nothing more than a "certificate of live birth," which, pursuant to Hawaii Land Statue 338.17.8, is available on request from any resident of Hawaii. Hawaii Gov. Linda Lingle has sealed your on-file birth records, making them unavailable for verification. You refuse to request that the documents in question be made available for examination by dispassionate analysts. To obtain a driver's license, one has to provide some proof of citizenship -- so why did you not comply as a presidential candidate? Surely you can influence the state of Hawaii to release your original birth certificate for public inspection, so this lingering question can be put to rest before your inauguration. We know that you hold constitutional rule of law in contempt, but in the unlikely event that it is revealed sometime after your inauguration that you are not a natural-born citizen, we would be faced with a serious constitutional crisis. When do you plan to release your original birth certificate? Mark Alexander ![]() |
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Obama, are you a natural-born citizen, as constitutionally prescribed in Article II, Section 1 and Amendment XX, Section 3, for the office of president? Have you heard the latest? Obama's actual birth certificate is actually being held safe at MIB Headquarters in New York! It is doubtful that the Earth's primitive inhabitants would comprehend that they just elected a being from another planet. BTW, Elvis sends his regards. ![]() Join the PACK! |
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again... What you are passing off as a "birth certificate" is actually nothing more than a "certificate of live birth," which, pursuant to Hawaii Land Statue 338.17.8, is available on request from any resident of Hawaii. (regardless of where they were born) ![]() |
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I hope you are correct, we cannot afford the scandal that would erupt if it was discovered he was not qualified to be president. ![]() |
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certification of live birth and Birth Certificate are one and the same thing. Split hairs shouldn't be done by dullards. What a state calls a certificate is entirely up to the State that issues it. Notice that the words certification and certificate as well as birth show on both. read what Certification of live birth says its a certificate provided by the state and notes that the "being" was born "live" If the "being" that was born and were dead would be issued a certification of death. I just can't believe we are worried more about a birth certificate than Bush and cheney being ineligible to be president and vice president. WHy you ask? Because they both resided in Texas at the time they were chosen to be candidates. Only after this fact did Cheney "move" his residence to Wyoming. This still doesnt qualify him as a resident of Wyoming because a person must live in a state for 6 months to be considered a resident. BUSH/CHeney were and are an illegitimate presidency from the start. Heck lets look at McCain he was born on an Army base in Panama. This according to king George is not America. Why? Because if the Guantanamo bay marine base isnt America then neither is a Panamanian army base. So basically we really only had 1 major political candidate for president in 2008. Obama was it. I get so tired of politicians not following the rules that govern this country and if we can't get them to follow the rules that apply to what qualifies them to serve the country then how are we going to get them to follow any other rule out there ![]() In a rich man's house there is no place to spit but his face. Diogenes Of Sinope |
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certification of live birth and Birth Certificate are one and the same thing. Split hairs shouldn't be done by dullards. Only a dullard would assume information coming from the government is accurate. It very important for people to keep government in check. Meanwhile, I do not plan on adding anything more to this post, because after tomorrow it will be a mute point. I hope for America's sake that we can now look forward to a sucessfull four years from President Obama. ![]() |
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As stated before: Is this is a 40+ year long conspiracy? or is it what it looks like a birth certificate from Hawaii. No leap of faith just letting go of a ridiculous internet conspiracy. ![]() In a rich man's house there is no place to spit but his face. Diogenes Of Sinope |
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As stated before: Is this is a 40+ year long conspiracy? or is it what it looks like a birth certificate from Hawaii. No leap of faith just letting go of a ridiculous internet conspiracy. Maybe it is ridiculous, but it still does not hurt to check. The fact that Obama never directly confronted these allegations should be at least a little suspicious. Plus the case was close to being heard by the supreme court. ![]() |
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As stated before: Is this is a 40+ year long conspiracy? or is it what it looks like a birth certificate from Hawaii. No leap of faith just letting go of a ridiculous internet conspiracy. He didn't have to. They were ridiculous at face value. That he never went through a naturalization process. That he was born to an American citizen that there's no record of his immigration... Or is that part of the conspiracy. ![]() In a rich man's house there is no place to spit but his face. Diogenes Of Sinope |
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