Apparently I have either a coding or (more likely) a cognitive deficiency that prevents me from getting BOINC running the Windows 32 bit AK8.0 SSSE3 (Intel) App to accept Astropulse WUs. I have downloaded the appropriate files, added them to my C:\Program Files\BOINC\Projects\setiathome.berkeley.edu folder, replaced the app_Info.xlm file and rebooted the computer. Instead of adding Astropulse, I am now wanted in 3 systems for the mass murder of pending S@H WU's. BOINC also puts me in time-out for 15 hours to ponder the lint in my navel.

What am I missing (besides an adequate supply of neurons)?

Thanks!

Maybe not at all appropriate, because of a typo in your message, but .... in your message you gave the name of your app_info file as app_info.xlm. If you also did that in your boinc folder it would probably explain your problems I guess. That file is supposed to be named app_info.xml (xml, not xlm ;-)

Regards,
John.

Hi, John. Thanks for the reply.
Sorry, it was a typo. The file was correctly named.

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Apparently I have either a coding or (more likely) a cognitive deficiency that prevents me from getting BOINC running the Windows 32 bit AK8.0 SSSE3 (Intel) App to accept Astropulse WUs. I have downloaded the appropriate files, added them to my C:\Program Files\BOINC\Projects\setiathome.berkeley.edu folder, replaced the app_Info.xlm file and rebooted the computer. Instead of adding Astropulse, I am now wanted in 3 systems for the mass murder of pending S@H WU's. BOINC also puts me in time-out for 15 hours to ponder the lint in my navel.

What am I missing (besides an adequate supply of neurons)?

Thanks!

Maybe not at all appropriate, because of a typo in your message, but .... in your message you gave the name of your app_info file as app_info.xlm. If you also did that in your boinc folder it would probably explain your problems I guess. That file is supposed to be named app_info.xml (xml, not xlm ;-)

Regards,
John.

Hi, John. Thanks for the reply.
Sorry, it was a typo. The file was correctly named.

Well, not sure it'll help, but I'm running 64bit AK SSE3x and my app_info.xml looks like what follows. I have yet to kill any MultiBeam WU's, but I also haven't received any AstroPulse... Now might be a good time to split a few extra AstroPulse WU's, what with the MB splitters all sleeping. :-)

<app_info>
    <app>
        <name>setiathome_enhanced</name>
    </app>
    <file_info>
        <name>AK_v8_win_x64_SSSE3x.exe</name>
        <executable/>
    </file_info>
    <app_version>
        <app_name>setiathome_enhanced</app_name>
        <version_num>517</version_num>
        <file_ref>
            <file_name>AK_v8_win_x64_SSSE3x.exe</file_name>
            <main_program/>
        </file_ref>
    </app_version>
    <app_version>
        <app_name>setiathome_enhanced</app_name>
        <version_num>527</version_num>
        <file_ref>
           <file_name>AK_v8_win_x64_SSSE3x.exe</file_name>
            <main_program/>
        </file_ref>
    </app_version>
    <app_version>
        <app_name>setiathome_enhanced</app_name>
        <version_num>528</version_num>
        <file_ref>
           <file_name>AK_v8_win_x64_SSSE3x.exe</file_name>
            <main_program/>
        </file_ref>
    </app_version>

    <app>
        <name>astropulse</name>
    </app>
    <file_info>
        <name>astropulse_4.35_windows_intelx86.exe</name>
        <executable/>
    </file_info>
    <file_info>
        <name>libfftw3f-3-1-1a_upx.dll</name>
        <executable/>
    </file_info>
    <file_info>
        <name>ap_graphics_4.35_windows_intelx86.exe</name>
        <executable/>
    </file_info>
    <app_version>
        <app_name>astropulse</app_name>
        <version_num>435</version_num>
        <file_ref>
            <file_name>astropulse_4.35_windows_intelx86.exe</file_name>
            <main_program/>
        </file_ref>
        <file_ref>
            <file_name>libfftw3f-3-1-1a_upx.dll</file_name>
        </file_ref>
        <file_ref>
            <file_name>ap_graphics_4.35_windows_intelx86.exe</file_name>
            <open_name>graphics_app</open_name>
        </file_ref>
    </app_version>
</app_info>

Apparently I have either a coding or (more likely) a cognitive deficiency that prevents me from getting BOINC running the Windows 32 bit AK8.0 SSSE3 (Intel) App to accept Astropulse WUs. I have downloaded the appropriate files, added them to my C:\Program Files\BOINC\Projects\setiathome.berkeley.edu folder, replaced the app_Info.xlm file and rebooted the computer. Instead of adding Astropulse, I am now wanted in 3 systems for the mass murder of pending S@H WU's. BOINC also puts me in time-out for 15 hours to ponder the lint in my navel.

Let's have another try, then ;-) You say that you replaced app_info.xml. What exactly do you mean by that? Did you completely replace the old app_info.xml by a new one containing (only) the text that Henri gave as an example? Or did you change the existing app_info.xml by adding Henri's text to it (which is what you're supposed to do)?

Would it help if I post you my version of a working .xml which I use on my test system? You would have to edit it slightly I guess, but at least you can use it to compare to your own version.

Regards,
John.

Apparently I have either a coding or (more likely) a cognitive deficiency that prevents me from getting BOINC running the Windows 32 bit AK8.0 SSSE3 (Intel) App to accept Astropulse WUs. I have downloaded the appropriate files, added them to my C:\Program Files\BOINC\Projects\setiathome.berkeley.edu folder, replaced the app_Info.xlm file and rebooted the computer. Instead of adding Astropulse, I am now wanted in 3 systems for the mass murder of pending S@H WU's. BOINC also puts me in time-out for 15 hours to ponder the lint in my navel.

Let's have another try, then ;-) You say that you replaced app_info.xml. What exactly do you mean by that? Did you completely replace the old app_info.xml by a new one containing (only) the text that Henri gave as an example? Or did you change the existing app_info.xml by adding Henri's text to it (which is what you're supposed to do)?

Would it help if I post you my version of a working .xml which I use on my test system? You would have to edit it slightly I guess, but at least you can use it to compare to your own version.

Regards,
John.

Here it is:

<app_info>
<app>
<name>astropulse</name>
</app>
<file_info>
<name>astropulse_4.35_windows_intelx86.exe</name>
<executable />
</file_info>
<file_info>
<name>libfftw3f-3-1-1a_upx.dll</name>
<executable />
</file_info>
<file_info>
<name>ap_graphics_4.35_windows_intelx86.exe</name>
<executable />
</file_info>
<app_version>
<app_name>astropulse</app_name>
<version_num>435</version_num>
<file_ref>
<file_name>astropulse_4.35_windows_intelx86.exe</file_name>
<main_program />
</file_ref>
<file_ref>
<file_name>libfftw3f-3-1-1a_upx.dll</file_name>
</file_ref>
<file_ref>
<file_name>ap_graphics_4.35_windows_intelx86.exe</file_name>
<open_name>graphics_app</open_name>
</file_ref>
</app_version>
<app>
<name>setiathome_enhanced</name>
</app>
<file_info>
<name>AK_v8_win_SSSE3x.exe</name>
<executable />
</file_info>
<app_version>
<app_name>setiathome_enhanced</app_name>
<version_num>517</version_num>
<file_ref>
<file_name>AK_v8_win_SSSE3x.exe</file_name>
<main_program />
</file_ref>
</app_version>
<app_version>
<app_name>setiathome_enhanced</app_name>
<version_num>527</version_num>
<file_ref>
<file_name>AK_v8_win_SSSE3x.exe</file_name>
<main_program />
</file_ref>
</app_version>
<app_version>
<app_name>setiathome_enhanced</app_name>
<version_num>528</version_num>
<file_ref>
<file_name>AK_v8_win_SSSE3x.exe</file_name>
<main_program />
</file_ref>
</app_version>
</app_info>

Thanks again!

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I still have not received any AP units, hopefully soon though so I can see how they will do on my systems.

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Apparently I have either a coding or (more likely) a cognitive deficiency that prevents me from getting BOINC running the Windows 32 bit AK8.0 SSSE3 (Intel) App to accept Astropulse WUs. I have downloaded the appropriate files, added them to my C:\Program Files\BOINC\Projects\setiathome.berkeley.edu folder, replaced the app_Info.xlm file and rebooted the computer. Instead of adding Astropulse, I am now wanted in 3 systems for the mass murder of pending S@H WU's. BOINC also puts me in time-out for 15 hours to ponder the lint in my navel.

Let's have another try, then ;-) You say that you replaced app_info.xml. What exactly do you mean by that? Did you completely replace the old app_info.xml by a new one containing (only) the text that Henri gave as an example? Or did you change the existing app_info.xml by adding Henri's text to it (which is what you're supposed to do)?

Would it help if I post you my version of a working .xml which I use on my test system? You would have to edit it slightly I guess, but at least you can use it to compare to your own version.

Regards,
John.

Here it is:

<app_info>
<app>
<name>astropulse</name>
</app>
<file_info>
<name>astropulse_4.35_windows_intelx86.exe</name>
<executable />
</file_info>

....

<app_version>
<app_name>setiathome_enhanced</app_name>
<version_num>528</version_num>
<file_ref>
<file_name>AK_v8_win_SSSE3x.exe</file_name>
<main_program />
</file_ref>
</app_version>
</app_info>

Thanks again!

I think you have been bitten by a BOINC bug which we spotted at beta, and reported to the developers.

Try taking out the space before the backslash in lines like

<executable />
<main_program />

so that they read

<executable/>
<main_program/>

What error messages did you get in your BOINC Manager when the SAH WUs got trashed?

I think you have been bitten by a BOINC bug which we spotted at beta, and reported to the developers.

Try taking out the space before the backslash in lines like

<executable />
<main_program />

so that they read

<executable/>
<main_program/>

What error messages did you get in your BOINC Manager when the SAH WUs got trashed?

That was what I looking at as well, they show up much better when you paste into a different program.

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Here it is:

<app_info>
<app>
<name>astropulse</name>
</app>
<file_info>
<name>astropulse_4.35_windows_intelx86.exe</name>
<executable />

etc.......

I tend to agree with the previous posters about the spaces. I compared your app_info.xml to mine, and the only difference is a couple of those spaces that I don't have in some of those <whatever/> phrases. I wasn't brave enough to take them out of my .xml to see what happens though ;-)

Regards,
John.

Deleting the spaces did it!

No error messages and pending WU's were right there waiting on reboot.

I thank John, Richard, Mumps and Arkayn for their help. They have saved 40 innocent, unsuspecting WUs from certain redistribution and me from pitchfork-wielding wingmen!

Enjoy the rest of your weekend.

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Just to let you know that it works and thank you for the effort of putting the required changes on the forum, saved me a lot of thinking, tinkering and typing!

Good to know it works. I have not got AP WUs yet.

Thanks but it was Richard Haselgrove who did most of the job in creating the working app_info.xml, I think. :)

Henri.

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Just to let you know that it works and thank you for the effort of putting the required changes on the forum, saved me a lot of thinking, tinkering and typing!

Good to know it works. I have not got AP WUs yet.

Thanks but it was Richard Haselgrove who did most of the job in creating the working app_info.xml, I think. :)

Henri.

Okay, a big thank you to Richard as well then :-)

Regards,
John.

Just got an AP unit on my iMac, says 17.75 hours as its initial run time, of course it is at the bottom of the list right now.

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I tried to get the sse3 app info file here to work after I modified It for SSSE3x and then too late I noticed It wasn't an x64 seti app for XP x64, So It would say It couldn't find the 32bit file and try to download It, Needless to say I'm back to running x64 seti apps, I notice It tried to download an astropulse file once, But so far that was It. In the meantime I'm redownloading work from seti as I had to erase all the files in the Boinc folder and reinstall and reattach to Seti on this one PC, The other 2(PC3 & PC4) are doing something else or are down(PC2).

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Thanks to Henri for postings on modifying app_info and to Josef for the hint to check the sched request file.
After waiting about 4 days -- I got my first AP unit - woohoo! Looks like 70+ hours for a desktop slogger like me. It certainly reduces the number of WUs in the task tab.

A couple of words of warning for hard-core optimisers, based on our experiences in Beta testing.

1) Don't trust the initial estimates. BOINC can only keep track of one duration correction factor per project, and the figures for AP haven't even been fine-tuned to match the figures for stock MB. Optimised applications throw yet a third factor into the equation.

As a rule of thumb, a stock Q6600 will take about 40 hours for an AP WU, and a 2.8 GHz P4 about 100 hours. If your copy of BOINC has become 'acclimatised' to running high-yield VHAR 'shorties' with AK_V8, it could estimate that AP will take as little as one quarter of those times. Be especially careful about the risk of over-caching when the splitters start running at full speed.

2) AMD processors seem to be less efficient, pro-rata, than Intel processors when running AP: your over-caching problems could be even worse. This problem has been sent off to the analysis labs at Lunatics, but no final diagnosis has been received yet.

3) (OK, three words) AP may not play well on hyperthreaded CPUs. Only one report so far, with AP running alongside a CPDN 'slab' model, but it ran really, really slowly. If you have a hyperthreaded CPU, and your AP times are way above the 'rule of thumb' above, then consider suspending all other tasks and running the AP task on its own.

ok, have a question. I am running the sse41 app on my Q9450. I have added the code to the xml file and have copied all items over. I start boinc and get this...

8/4/2008 12:03:30 PM|Einstein@Home|Found app_info.xml; using anonymous platform
8/4/2008 12:03:30 PM|SETI@home|Found app_info.xml; using anonymous platform
8/4/2008 12:03:30 PM||Processor: 4 GenuineIntel Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q9450 @ 2.66GHz [Intel64 Family 6 Model 23 Stepping 7]
8/4/2008 12:03:30 PM||Processor features: fpu tsc pae nx sse sse2 sse3
8/4/2008 12:03:30 PM||OS: Microsoft Windows Vista: , Service Pack 1, (06.00.6001.00)
8/4/2008 12:03:30 PM||Memory: 2.00 GB physical, 4.23 GB virtual
8/4/2008 12:03:30 PM||Disk: 139.73 GB total, 68.34 GB free
8/4/2008 12:03:30 PM||Local time is UTC +1 hours
8/4/2008 12:03:30 PM|Einstein@Home|URL: http://einstein.phys.uwm.edu/; Computer ID: 1299368; location: home; project prefs: default
8/4/2008 12:03:30 PM|Milkyway@home|URL: http://milkyway.cs.rpi.edu/milkyway/; Computer ID: 17633; location: (none); project prefs: default
8/4/2008 12:03:30 PM|QMC@HOME|URL: http://qah.uni-muenster.de/; Computer ID: 103924; location: (none); project prefs: default
8/4/2008 12:03:30 PM|SETI@home|URL: http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/; Computer ID: 4382958; location: home; project prefs: default
8/4/2008 12:03:30 PM||General prefs: from SETI@home (last modified 06-Apr-2008 10:27:27)
8/4/2008 12:03:30 PM||Host location: home
8/4/2008 12:03:30 PM||General prefs: using separate prefs for home
8/4/2008 12:03:30 PM||Preferences limit memory usage when active to 2046.31MB
8/4/2008 12:03:30 PM||Preferences limit memory usage when idle to 2046.31MB
8/4/2008 12:03:30 PM||Preferences limit disk usage to 68.34GB
8/4/2008 12:03:30 PM|QMC@HOME|Restarting task two_470_peptidexp-ecp2.4809_0 using Amolqc-preRC1exp version 501
8/4/2008 12:03:30 PM|QMC@HOME|Restarting task four_357_peptidsm-ecp2.2621_1 using Amolqc-preRC1 version 501
8/4/2008 12:03:30 PM|Milkyway@home|Restarting task gs_3721282_1217907134_79731_0 using astronomy version 122
8/4/2008 12:03:30 PM|Milkyway@home|Restarting task gs_3731382_1217907138_79892_0 using astronomy version 122
8/4/2008 12:04:06 PM|SETI@home|Sending scheduler request: Requested by user
8/4/2008 12:04:06 PM|SETI@home|(not requesting new work or reporting completed tasks)
8/4/2008 12:04:11 PM|SETI@home|Scheduler RPC succeeded [server version 603]
8/4/2008 12:04:11 PM|SETI@home|Deferring communication for 11 sec
8/4/2008 12:04:11 PM|SETI@home|Reason: requested by project

Why would it not be requesting new work? Do I have everything installed right? Usually it will ask for 0 seconds of work if it has plenty of WUs.

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Just a thought...shouldn't Lunatics post a modded app_info.xml file to download? I am using the op app, and just noticed that one of my quads D/Led an AP WU, and I haven't touched anything on that rig in days. (And yes, I know about the other thread about the "Ghost AP WUs".)

Just a thought...

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Just a thought...shouldn't Lunatics post a modded app_info.xml file to download? I am using the op app, and just noticed that one of my quads D/Led an AP WU, and I haven't touched anything on that rig in days. (And yes, I know about the other thread about the "Ghost AP WUs".)

Just a thought...

John,

Are you absolutely sure about what you've just said? That the rig has an app_info.xml file specifying setiathome_enhanced only, and you got a full Astropulse download anyway? Did you get the program files with it? Do the program files exist in your project directory? Could you try suspending any earlier work (if any) in your cache for a moment, to see if the Astropulse WU actually runs?

Please be very careful about checking all that - it doesn't sound as if the Berkeley server is behaving at all the way it should. I may be basing an emergency bug report to Eric Korpela on your replies, so it would be helpful if you could post a snip of the message log showing the download and the AP app starting.

Just a thought...shouldn't Lunatics post a modded app_info.xml file to download? I am using the op app, and just noticed that one of my quads D/Led an AP WU, and I haven't touched anything on that rig in days. (And yes, I know about the other thread about the "Ghost AP WUs".)

Just a thought...

John,

Are you absolutely sure about what you've just said? That the rig has an app_info.xml file specifying setiathome_enhanced only, and you got a full Astropulse download anyway? Did you get the program files with it? Do the program files exist in your project directory? Could you try suspending any earlier work (if any) in your cache for a moment, to see if the Astropulse WU actually runs?

Please be very careful about checking all that - it doesn't sound as if the Berkeley server is behaving at all the way it should. I may be basing an emergency bug report to Eric Korpela on your replies, so it would be helpful if you could post a snip of the message log showing the download and the AP app starting.

I will check when I get home. It is my Q9450 rig, and the task is here. I just got it sometime today. I will post the messages in the BOINC log and check for any D/L of the AP files. It is almost 1600 CDT now, and I should have an answer before 2200 CDT.

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I will check when I get home. It is my Q9450 rig, and the task is here. I just got it sometime today. I will post the messages in the BOINC log and check for any D/L of the AP files. It is almost 1600 CDT now, and I should have an answer before 2200 CDT.

Ah - it's past 22:00 BST here, and your ETA will be around 04:00 BST. I'm not going to be awake to write any sort of a bug report, emergency or otherwise, at that time! If anyone else can spot a problem in John's logs, could they deal with it, please?

But if you've only seen the task details on the website so far, then the chances are that it's another ghost, and merely evidence that Eric didn't succeed in fixing the scheduler last (Sunday) night.