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Message 793719 - Posted: 6 Aug 2008, 13:23:34 UTC

@Fred...Thanks...No Berkeley Flush this time...worked great!!
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Message 793725 - Posted: 6 Aug 2008, 13:47:38 UTC - in response to Message 793719.  

@Fred...Thanks...No Berkeley Flush this time...worked great!!

Excellent news. Now you, too, can look forward to getting just under 700 creds for 24 hours crunching ;)

I take the view that Jason et al are waiting for a reasonable number of AP WU's to be crunched and validated before thinking about optimising so the quicker a "reasonable" number can be crunched and validated, the sooner that day may come. If I can crunch 1, 2 or 3 per day to help that day come sooner then that is a "good thing" to do.

Much the same thought process as my reason for running CPDN - if I can crunch a model that has a deadline of 2 years in about 8 weeks, then it might help us be in time to save the planet!

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Message 793726 - Posted: 6 Aug 2008, 13:47:40 UTC

My app_info.xml file is working in XP x64, I know this as I've had no Berkeley flush and I snagged an Astropulse WU! (ap_04ap08ac_B5_P1_00032_20080806_16085.wu)
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Message 793736 - Posted: 6 Aug 2008, 14:24:41 UTC - in response to Message 793725.  

I take the view that Jason et al are waiting for a reasonable number of AP WU's to be crunched and validated before thinking about optimising so the quicker a "reasonable" number can be crunched and validated, the sooner that day may come. If I can crunch 1, 2 or 3 per day to help that day come sooner then that is a "good thing" to do.
In a nutshell, yes. Processing these will probably help the project get things running smoothly and make any tweaks they need. I personally feel I should wait 'til the 'storm lessens to somewhere round a 'gale or preferably a good 'breeze though others may have better ideas and more time on their hands at the moment.


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Message 793749 - Posted: 6 Aug 2008, 15:19:39 UTC - in response to Message 793736.  

I take the view that Jason et al are waiting for a reasonable number of AP WU's to be crunched and validated before thinking about optimising so the quicker a "reasonable" number can be crunched and validated, the sooner that day may come. If I can crunch 1, 2 or 3 per day to help that day come sooner then that is a "good thing" to do.
In a nutshell, yes. Processing these will probably help the project get things running smoothly and make any tweaks they need. I personally feel I should wait 'til the 'storm lessens to somewhere round a 'gale or preferably a good 'breeze though others may have better ideas and more time on their hands at the moment.


Totally understood. It's pointless even thinking about optimisation until you're confident there is a stable platform to work from; and that confidence will come only from WU's being returned and validated from the widest range of platforms.

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Message 793931 - Posted: 6 Aug 2008, 23:49:24 UTC

Again, just to report, i got another two:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/workunit.php?wuid=312093615
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/workunit.php?wuid=312093577#
Just let 'em roll, the first one still didn't started... :)
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Message 794525 - Posted: 8 Aug 2008, 9:35:41 UTC

Alright, finally got the chance to download the files and tweak my app_infos. Seems to be runnign the ordinary enhanced WUs just fine. Now to wait for some AP ones...
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Message 794546 - Posted: 8 Aug 2008, 10:51:19 UTC

Just curious how long after I edit my app_info file to run the AP and optimized app for the regular WU with all the files to run both in the folder, it takes to get an AP WU? Also curious if my running the S5R4 Einstein WU as well would keep me from getting an AP WU. I've had it set to get them now for a few days, but just keep getting the regular ones.
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Message 794563 - Posted: 8 Aug 2008, 11:49:30 UTC - in response to Message 794546.  

Just curious how long after I edit my app_info file to run the AP and optimized app for the regular WU with all the files to run both in the folder, it takes to get an AP WU? Also curious if my running the S5R4 Einstein WU as well would keep me from getting an AP WU. I've had it set to get them now for a few days, but just keep getting the regular ones.


Still waiting myself, so I'd like to know that too ;D
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Message 794613 - Posted: 8 Aug 2008, 14:34:06 UTC - in response to Message 794563.  

Just curious how long after I edit my app_info file to run the AP and optimized app for the regular WU with all the files to run both in the folder, it takes to get an AP WU? Also curious if my running the S5R4 Einstein WU as well would keep me from getting an AP WU. I've had it set to get them now for a few days, but just keep getting the regular ones.


Still waiting myself, so I'd like to know that too ;D

I'd guess it'll take until the next "outrage" or at least until your host requests a significant amount of work. If you "top off" your cache frequently, it may take an outage before your host requests enough work to have the scheduler send you such a long task.

At least, that's my impression. I could have interpreted how long it took to get my first AP WU incorrectly. ;-)
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Message 794615 - Posted: 8 Aug 2008, 14:35:57 UTC

I got one, but it couldn't even start, do you know what could be the problem:
CreateProcess() failed


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Message 794616 - Posted: 8 Aug 2008, 14:36:39 UTC
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Technical News : Blips and Bursts (Aug 07 2008)

Towards the end of the afternoon yesterday we put in a new scheduler to fix a bug with "anonymous platforms" and the way they handle Astropulse workunits. This is working fine as far as I know, but at first there were some brief issues with uploads in general (human error when installing new scheduler).
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Maybe now nobody with app_info.xml get AP-WUs?? ;-D


I will see if I will get AP-WUs.. I didn't changed the app_info.xml..
For now I don't want to crunch AP..


BTW. I like the old link color and style..
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Message 794618 - Posted: 8 Aug 2008, 14:45:33 UTC - in response to Message 794615.  

I got one, but it couldn't even start, do you know what could be the problem:

CreateProcess() failed

Usually means either you didn't download all the required executables, or you got a corrupted file when you downloaded them. See here.
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Message 794622 - Posted: 8 Aug 2008, 14:55:28 UTC - in response to Message 794613.  

I'd guess it'll take until the next "outrage" or at least until your host requests a significant amount of work. If you "top off" your cache frequently, it may take an outage before your host requests enough work to have the scheduler send you such a long task.

At least, that's my impression. I could have interpreted how long it took to get my first AP WU incorrectly. ;-)


Maybe if I just increase the work buffer. I'm wondering if that would do the same. It's set at .50. Is there a minimum setting that has to be in order to get them?
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Message 794635 - Posted: 8 Aug 2008, 15:36:39 UTC - in response to Message 794563.  

Just curious how long after I edit my app_info file to run the AP and optimized app for the regular WU with all the files to run both in the folder, it takes to get an AP WU? Also curious if my running the S5R4 Einstein WU as well would keep me from getting an AP WU. I've had it set to get them now for a few days, but just keep getting the regular ones.


Still waiting myself, so I'd like to know that too ;D

It might have taken 4-8 hours before I received My 1st AP WU, Right now I'm working on the 2nd AP WU and yep the 1st one too(1 day 2:23:56 to completion and counting so far! Going up.;)) and the 1st WU is 46.219% complete, The 2nd is 12.141% complete and there being done by a Q9300 Quad core cpu @ 3.29GHz and a warm one at that as It gets warm here. sigh It's actually easier to do ordinary stuff while crunching sans clothing(I wear glasses though, bad eye sight and all) as It gets to 88F in here during the day and I've got 4 PCs, 3 of which are running(1 has a psu that's getting RMAed as It killed a motherboard, burnt P4 socket anyone?).
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Message 794636 - Posted: 8 Aug 2008, 15:37:47 UTC - in response to Message 794613.  

I'd guess it'll take until the next "outrage" or at least until your host requests a significant amount of work. If you "top off" your cache frequently, it may take an outage before your host requests enough work to have the scheduler send you such a long task.

At least, that's my impression. I could have interpreted how long it took to get my first AP WU incorrectly. ;-)

AFAIK even a request for one second or less of work could get an AP WU. The Scheduler feasibility checks are all about whether the host can do the work within deadline. Then after it assigns the first WU for a request it sees if the estimated time has fulfilled the request or more work needs to be assigned.
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Message 794679 - Posted: 8 Aug 2008, 18:52:20 UTC - in response to Message 794618.  

I got one, but it couldn't even start, do you know what could be the problem:

CreateProcess() failed

Usually means either you didn't download all the required executables, or you got a corrupted file when you downloaded them. See here.


Thank you, my astropulse_4.35_windows_intelx86.exe was corrupted.

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Message 794903 - Posted: 9 Aug 2008, 2:45:20 UTC

Got my first AP WU and should start working on it in a few hours. The projected time says it will take almost 38 hours. Doesn't really sound so bad if it holds to that since that would be a little more time than for a couple of the new Einstein S5R4's to run.
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Message 794917 - Posted: 9 Aug 2008, 3:39:55 UTC - in response to Message 794903.  

Got my first AP WU and should start working on it in a few hours. The projected time says it will take almost 38 hours. Doesn't really sound so bad if it holds to that since that would be a little more time than for a couple of the new Einstein S5R4's to run.


I would say double that as my T7200(2.0 GHz) is running toward 80 hours.

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Message 794922 - Posted: 9 Aug 2008, 3:51:50 UTC

My first AP wu here in main errored out because I didn't check my app_info carefully.....:-(

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=946642393

<core_client_version>6.2.14</core_client_version>
<![CDATA[
<message>
No main program specified
</message>
]]>


there were spaces after executable and main_program and the trailing backslash....

<executable />
<main_program />

I've re-edited the app_info to remove the spaces and am now waiting for my next AP wu.....
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