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Message 783829 - Posted: 18 Jul 2008, 9:48:44 UTC
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I'm overclocking my system's Q6700 to 3.2ghz (10x320) to more accommodate SETI and high performance video editing and more. My recent attempts all BSODed after a while under load at 1.384V (It is stable under idle). I tried the FSB at 400x8 but that amped up the voltage to +1.4volts. I know that the higher the voltage, the more likely to damage the CPU. So I didn't even bother booting into Vista.
The stock max is 1.35, the max I can get at that is 3.0Ghz stable. Is it my Motherboard, the ASUS P5K-VM to blame? or is it not enough experimentation? I like 3Ghz, but would much prefer stable 3.2Ghz under load. If not, am I stuck at 3Ghz?
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Message 783832 - Posted: 18 Jul 2008, 9:53:27 UTC - in response to Message 783829.  

I'm overclocking my system's Q6700 to 3.2ghz (10x320) to more accommodate SETI and high performance video editing and more. My recent attempts all BSODed after a while at 1.384V. I tried the FSB at 400x8 but that amped up the voltage to +1.4volts. I know that the higher the voltage, the more likely to damage the CPU.
The stock max is 1.35, the max I can get at that is 3.0Ghz stable. Is it my Motherboard, the ASUS P5K-VM to blame? or is it not enough experimentation? I like 3Ghz, but would much prefer stable 3.2Ghz under load. If not, am I stuck at 3Ghz?

You will not damage the cpu if your cooling is under control........the ol' 6700 is a trooper, but not on a par with the new 45nm stuff.......
Mine is running at about 3.1ghz.......so I think you are doing OK.......you may not get much more out of it.
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Message 783836 - Posted: 18 Jul 2008, 10:01:51 UTC - in response to Message 783832.  
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I'm overclocking my system's Q6700 to 3.2ghz (10x320) to more accommodate SETI and high performance video editing and more. My recent attempts all BSODed after a while at 1.384V. I tried the FSB at 400x8 but that amped up the voltage to +1.4volts. I know that the higher the voltage, the more likely to damage the CPU.
The stock max is 1.35, the max I can get at that is 3.0Ghz stable. Is it my Motherboard, the ASUS P5K-VM to blame? or is it not enough experimentation? I like 3Ghz, but would much prefer stable 3.2Ghz under load. If not, am I stuck at 3Ghz?

You will not damage the cpu if your cooling is under control........the ol' 6700 is a trooper, but not on a par with the new 45nm stuff.......
Mine is running at about 3.1ghz.......so I think you are doing OK.......you may not get much more out of it.


So, basically, stick to 3Ghz? or is there advice to push for 3.2? While I was on 3.2 the temps from my Arctic Cooling Freezer Pro 7 were 38C idle and 52-54C load.
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Message 783838 - Posted: 18 Jul 2008, 10:07:42 UTC - in response to Message 783836.  

I'm overclocking my system's Q6700 to 3.2ghz (10x320) to more accommodate SETI and high performance video editing and more. My recent attempts all BSODed after a while at 1.384V. I tried the FSB at 400x8 but that amped up the voltage to +1.4volts. I know that the higher the voltage, the more likely to damage the CPU.
The stock max is 1.35, the max I can get at that is 3.0Ghz stable. Is it my Motherboard, the ASUS P5K-VM to blame? or is it not enough experimentation? I like 3Ghz, but would much prefer stable 3.2Ghz under load. If not, am I stuck at 3Ghz?

You will not damage the cpu if your cooling is under control........the ol' 6700 is a trooper, but not on a par with the new 45nm stuff.......
Mine is running at about 3.1ghz.......so I think you are doing OK.......you may not get much more out of it.


So, basically, stick to 3Ghz? or is there advice to push for 3.2? While I was on 3.2 the temps from my Arctic Cooling Freezer Pro 7 were 38C idle and 52-54C load.

At those temps you could try 3.2g........
Give it a little more vcore and see if you can get it stable.......
watch the temps.....mine shows over 60c.....and that is a bit high. But if you can push 3.2 ghz and stay at 60c or below, you should be OK.....
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Message 783840 - Posted: 18 Jul 2008, 10:09:56 UTC - in response to Message 783838.  
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I'm overclocking my system's Q6700 to 3.2ghz (10x320) to more accommodate SETI and high performance video editing and more. My recent attempts all BSODed after a while at 1.384V. I tried the FSB at 400x8 but that amped up the voltage to +1.4volts. I know that the higher the voltage, the more likely to damage the CPU.
The stock max is 1.35, the max I can get at that is 3.0Ghz stable. Is it my Motherboard, the ASUS P5K-VM to blame? or is it not enough experimentation? I like 3Ghz, but would much prefer stable 3.2Ghz under load. If not, am I stuck at 3Ghz?

You will not damage the cpu if your cooling is under control........the ol' 6700 is a trooper, but not on a par with the new 45nm stuff.......
Mine is running at about 3.1ghz.......so I think you are doing OK.......you may not get much more out of it.


So, basically, stick to 3Ghz? or is there advice to push for 3.2? While I was on 3.2 the temps from my Arctic Cooling Freezer Pro 7 were 38C idle and 52-54C load.

At those temps you could try 3.2g........
Give it a little more vcore and see if you can get it stable.......
watch the temps.....mine shows over 60c.....and that is a bit high. But if you can push 3.2 ghz and stay at 60c or below, you should be OK.....


Are you saying more voltage? That I should go for 400x8?

Edit: OK, I'm at 400x8 (FSB1600Mhz, which it supports) and am ready for another test. I'll post here if it BSODs again.
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Are you saying more voltage? That I should go for 400x8?

You probably need more vcore to get stable......
Try whatever combination of multis works for you........
320 x10, 355 x 9, 400 x8.....it's all the same cpu speed, it just depends on what your mobo and ram like the best........all else equal, the highest fsb will be the best because it should result in the highest bandwidth to the ram........but see what ram speed your mobo gives you....whatever combination you can run at a given cpu clock that also will give you the best ram speed is the best.......
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Message 783846 - Posted: 18 Jul 2008, 10:31:09 UTC - in response to Message 783844.  
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Are you saying more voltage? That I should go for 400x8?

You probably need more vcore to get stable......
Try whatever combination of multis works for you........
320 x10, 355 x 9, 400 x8.....it's all the same cpu speed, it just depends on what your mobo and ram like the best........all else equal, the highest fsb will be the best because it should result in the highest bandwidth to the ram........but see what ram speed your mobo gives you....whatever combination you can run at a given cpu clock that also will give you the best ram speed is the best.......


At 400x8, Idle temps are now 41C. Load is currently 54-57C. Vcore on load is 1.36v, idle is 1.41v.

No BSOD yet.
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Message 783847 - Posted: 18 Jul 2008, 10:35:32 UTC - in response to Message 783846.  
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Are you saying more voltage? That I should go for 400x8?

You probably need more vcore to get stable......
Try whatever combination of multis works for you........
320 x10, 355 x 9, 400 x8.....it's all the same cpu speed, it just depends on what your mobo and ram like the best........all else equal, the highest fsb will be the best because it should result in the highest bandwidth to the ram........but see what ram speed your mobo gives you....whatever combination you can run at a given cpu clock that also will give you the best ram speed is the best.......


At 400x8, Idle temps are now 41C.

Don't worry about the idle temps, unless that's what you want your rig to do.......full load Seti crunching temps are what you have to keep an eye on..........
And it DOES make a difference what your rig is doing........
The kitties' recent trip to the Milkyway showed about 220 watts power comsupmtion on my Killawatt.....back to Seti now, with the opti app, it shows about 315 watts........
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Message 783849 - Posted: 18 Jul 2008, 10:40:02 UTC - in response to Message 783847.  
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Are you saying more voltage? That I should go for 400x8?

You probably need more vcore to get stable......
Try whatever combination of multis works for you........
320 x10, 355 x 9, 400 x8.....it's all the same cpu speed, it just depends on what your mobo and ram like the best........all else equal, the highest fsb will be the best because it should result in the highest bandwidth to the ram........but see what ram speed your mobo gives you....whatever combination you can run at a given cpu clock that also will give you the best ram speed is the best.......


At 400x8, Idle temps are now 41C.

Don't worry about the idle temps, unless that's what you want your rig to do.......full load Seti crunching temps are what you have to keep an eye on..........
And it DOES make a difference what your rig is doing........
The kitties' recent trip to the Milkyway showed about 220 watts power comsupmtion on my Killawatt.....back to Seti now, with the opti app, it shows about 315 watts........


I'm using a Corsair HX520 so I think I'm fine, but I also have a 9600GT in my system.

Edit: Still stable, with the air conditioner on load temps have dropped to 53C.
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Message 784138 - Posted: 18 Jul 2008, 23:23:22 UTC - in response to Message 783849.  

4:11PM PST = Still going strong, I guess this could mean it's stable. The lowest Vcore I got under thermal load was around 1.357V. But it's usually steady at 1.36V under load. I've run BOINC on and off for over 12 hours while multi-tasking and no BSODs have come up, even with the voltage moving from 1.36 to 1.424 after returning to idle.

So, would this be 100% stable or is it still at risk of not being stable?
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Message 784719 - Posted: 20 Jul 2008, 13:46:56 UTC - in response to Message 784200.  

It's been quite a while and no crashes. I assume that is a stable overclock.

But I'm still worried about voltages, how long would a Q6700 last at 1.43V idle and 1.36V load when it's stock max is 1.35V?
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Message 784735 - Posted: 20 Jul 2008, 14:57:03 UTC - in response to Message 784719.  

It's been quite a while and no crashes. I assume that is a stable overclock.

But I'm still worried about voltages, how long would a Q6700 last at 1.43V idle and 1.36V load when it's stock max is 1.35V?

I normally run My QX6700 cpus at 1.50v vcore all day long, Who said 1.35v was the max? I say normally as one is down for maintenance(dust most likely) and the other I just haven't reconnected yet. :D
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Message 784774 - Posted: 20 Jul 2008, 17:00:17 UTC
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How long will it last?
Well, all I can add here is.....no worries mate.

I am still running the first Core 2 chippy I bought, my X6800, OCd to 3.7ghz at a tad over 1.5v and currently showing 65c temps...(which is a little high, but ambient in the crunching den is 78.5f due to the summer heat).

It has been running that way since I bought it, which was back in 7/28/2006, almost 2 years ago from Tiger.......

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I have NEVER toasted a processor......ever......
And this goes back to OCing a 233mmx and a bunch of AMD Semprons...which REALLY ran hot.

I have toasted a number of mobos......blown mosfets that could not handle the extra load from pushing vcore and NB voltages to unreasonable levels. But at the modest OC you are dealing with, you are unlikely to encounter those problems.

Sooooo......enjoy the OC....if the rig runs stable, you are probably not doing anything that is going to take it out before you would be ready to retire it and upgrade anyway, especially at the rate cpus are progressing these days.
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Message 784922 - Posted: 21 Jul 2008, 1:57:51 UTC - in response to Message 784774.  

How long will it last?
Well, all I can add here is.....no worries mate.

I am still running the first Core 2 chippy I bought, my X6800, OCd to 3.7ghz at a tad over 1.5v and currently showing 65c temps...(which is a little high, but ambient in the crunching den is 78.5f due to the summer heat).

It has been running that way since I bought it, which was back in 7/28/2006, almost 2 years ago from Tiger.......

1 CP2-DUO-X6800 Intel Core 2 Extreme X6800 2.93GHz / 4MB Cache / 1066MHz FSB / Conroe Core / OEM / Socket 775 / Processor
MPN: HH80557PH0774M
$1,149.99


I have NEVER toasted a processor......ever......
And this goes back to OCing a 233mmx and a bunch of AMD Semprons...which REALLY ran hot.

I have toasted a number of mobos......blown mosfets that could not handle the extra load from pushing vcore and NB voltages to unreasonable levels. But at the modest OC you are dealing with, you are unlikely to encounter those problems.

Sooooo......enjoy the OC....if the rig runs stable, you are probably not doing anything that is going to take it out before you would be ready to retire it and upgrade anyway, especially at the rate cpus are progressing these days.


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Message 784925 - Posted: 21 Jul 2008, 2:13:24 UTC

Software RAID is "fake" RAID. It will be slower than a true RAID card because it has to use the CPU to control the RAID. A lot of cards are out there, PCI and PCI-E. Newegg has a pretty good selection and reviews are always awesome tools there.
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Software RAID is "fake" RAID. It will be slower than a true RAID card because it has to use the CPU to control the RAID. A lot of cards are out there, PCI and PCI-E. Newegg has a pretty good selection and reviews are always awesome tools there.


But I'm on a Quad at 3.2Ghz, would that give nearly the same speed as the best hardware one? and my million dollar question for the hardware route is: Would a PCI (not -E) RAID be fast enough for uncompressed HD?

Also, I got all of my stuff (except for the OEM DVD, HDD, and Case) from NCIX, which is just downstairs from where I live.
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Message 785441 - Posted: 22 Jul 2008, 15:11:55 UTC

Results may vary, but if I were doing uncompressed HD video I would want a hardware based RAID-0. PCI-E would be better no doubt, does the board have a RAID controller built in?
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Message 785885 - Posted: 23 Jul 2008, 19:49:41 UTC - in response to Message 785441.  

Results may vary, but if I were doing uncompressed HD video I would want a hardware based RAID-0. PCI-E would be better no doubt, does the board have a RAID controller built in?


No, it's a ICH9 board. But I need to know if PCI is even capable of those data rates and/or holding steady at those data rates.
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Message 786101 - Posted: 24 Jul 2008, 2:35:03 UTC - in response to Message 783829.  

I'm overclocking my system's Q6700 to 3.2ghz (10x320) to more accommodate SETI and high performance video editing and more. My recent attempts all BSODed after a while under load at 1.384V (It is stable under idle). I tried the FSB at 400x8 but that amped up the voltage to +1.4volts. I know that the higher the voltage, the more likely to damage the CPU. So I didn't even bother booting into Vista.
The stock max is 1.35, the max I can get at that is 3.0Ghz stable. Is it my Motherboard, the ASUS P5K-VM to blame? or is it not enough experimentation? I like 3Ghz, but would much prefer stable 3.2Ghz under load. If not, am I stuck at 3Ghz?
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