[/quote] With all of your other outrageous posts you have no credibility. [/quote]




outrageous to say that somebody here would have credibility

With all of your other outrageous posts you have no credibility.




outrageous to say that somebody here would have credibility

Look folks.......it's a very controversial topic.......
Like JFK's assassination, few true answers will come to light in our time.......
So please lighten up a bit on the personal comments.......

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"Freedom is just Chaos, with better lighting." Alan Dean Foster

You made a statement and for anybody to believe it you need to prove it.

I've made plenty of statements, and I ain'ts gotsta prove a single one of 'em... ;)

yes but you are hiding behind that book, and the other one
(sorry,could not resist)

You made a statement and for anybody to believe it you need to prove it.

I've made plenty of statements, and I ain'ts gotsta prove a single one of 'em... ;)

yes but you are hiding behind that book, and the other one
(sorry,could not resist)

Try resisting, my friend.........
Even in the political forum, we all must remain civil..........

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"Freedom is just Chaos, with better lighting." Alan Dean Foster

wish they would do the same in politics
(i like jeffreys attitude)

If I decide not to prove it you'll have to disprove it,

Or forever wonder if you were wrong.


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You made a statement and for anybody to believe it you need to prove it. With all of your other outrageous posts you have no credibility.

You cannot prove it, which is why you decided not to.

I've learned that if someone really wanted to know they would look into it. If not then they won't. Saves me time and weeds out the herd to true truth seekers.


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I learned that many of the things you say cannot be disproved, just like I cannot disprove that there's a purple and green zebra living within the bounds of my zip code (for the simple reason that I cannot be in all places of my zip at the same time), I cannot disprove your 50% figure. You could post a link to a credible source that supports your claim, or you can ask us to find this source, which, just link that zebra, may be present, but simply escapes my best efforts at detection.

While you don't post the proof of your assertions and request we research them, you ask us to waste our time on potentitally fruitless research. True, I have not watched the false flag vid the whole way through, nor your most recently posted vid link (which is over 2 hours long). Nor do I intend to, nothing you have said thus far leads me to believe there's anything in either of them that provides substantial evidence supporting your assertions.

Maybe I'm one of the "herd", incapable of "deep thought", or maybe I'm just tired of watching some of my friends, neighbors, colleagues and others die again and again without finding anything to justify your claim that the attack was an inside job, that stands up after a moment's critical thought. If you want me to watch anything over 15 mins, from now on you'll have to post more than just a link, I'll need the time offset of the pertinent details that you wish to talk about.

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I think you'll find it's a bit more complicated than that ...

That's just it,

You can't talk about it unless you research it. Well... you can but what opinion could you possibly have other than that of the official story? Nice and safe in that herd. Cozy in the dark.

I narrowed down the material to a single 1.5 hour video but still some won't watch. That's fine. All the points you want are in the video. Why should I list them when you can list them yourself by outlining it yourself? The herd thins itself and no amount of talk or discussion will help unless we all have a common point of reference on each point. Otherwise it's a pie throwing contest.

I like throwing pies but my arm gets tired of wasting it on those who don't care to do the research and then want me to hold their hand on each point.

You want to believe 4 passenger jets could outsmart and out maneuver NORAD then that's just fine with me. The inconceivable works well as illustrated by history:

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=48025


Oh say, can you see?


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"Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind." - Dr. Seuss

Why should I list them when you can list them yourself by outlining it yourself?

Because you have already watched it and know where the points are that you are attempting to make.

If a one hour (or two hour) video only has 5 minutes of pertinent information, why not just tell us where and what that info is?

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why not just tell us where and what that info is?

'cause I ain't your daddy, and this ain't no bedtime story... ;)

(Oops... my bad, I thought you were talking to me.)

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It may not be 1984 but George Orwell sure did see the future . . .

why not just tell us where and what that info is?

'cause I ain't your daddy, and this ain't no bedtime story... ;)

(Oops... my bad, I thought you were talking to me.)

No, not you Jeffrey, but I expect about the same reply from Mr. Gray.

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Why should I list them when you can list them yourself by outlining it yourself?

Because you have already watched it and know where the points are that you are attempting to make.

If a one hour (or two hour) video only has 5 minutes of pertinent information, why not just tell us where and what that info is?

Because he cares nothing for the damage inflicted by seeing the deaths of 3000 people again and again and again. I guess for most people that post it's a little abstract, for a few, the names associated were known before the lists were compiled. I've already spent several hours watching the vids MrGray has linked, and unless there's a compelling reason for me to see the deaths of people I knew again, I'm not going to watch another. MrGray, you're the boy that cried wolf once too many times, all I'm asking is where to find the wolf without having to step over the dead bodies. Is that really too much to ask?

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I think you'll find it's a bit more complicated than that ...

You will or you won't,

Reasonable doubt or preponderance of evidence. Either way we honor the fallen by making sure they fell as is told, or not. I'm not here to do your homework or convince you of anything. Sorry if you want me to jump through hoops. Truth is your wasting time typing miscellaneous messages here to me when you could be testing your theories against the points in the video(s).

Address the material, not the messenger.


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"Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind." - Dr. Seuss

You will or you won't,

Reasonable doubt or preponderance of evidence. Either way we honor the fallen by making sure they fell as is told, or not. I'm not here to do your homework or convince you of anything. Sorry if you want me to jump through hoops. Truth is your wasting time typing miscellaneous messages here to me when you could be testing your theories against the points in the video(s).

Address the material, not the messenger.


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So it is too much to ask. I'm not asking for hoops, I'm asking you to point out what parts of the vid contain the evidence you claim points to justification of your theory. That you won't does not convince me any is there. You earlier asked me to link in pictures because you feared visiting a web site. I fear seeing images of my friends dying once more. That I did your homework for you yet you won't reciprocate merely tells me there's nothing in the vid worth seeing, it's merely a means for you to say I'm missing something valid without me being able to answer.

So how about we go back to the questions I've asked that remain unanswered?

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I think you'll find it's a bit more complicated than that ...

he cares nothing for the damage inflicted by seeing the deaths of 3000 people again and again and again.

I have an idea... Let's build a memorial and make a special holiday of the event... ;)

(Oh, wait, somebody already thought of that.)

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It may not be 1984 but George Orwell sure did see the future . . .

If I decide not to prove it you'll have to disprove it,

Or forever wonder if you were wrong.


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You made a statement and for anybody to believe it you need to prove it. With all of your other outrageous posts you have no credibility.

You cannot prove it, which is why you decided not to.

I've learned that if someone really wanted to know they would look into it. If not then they won't. Saves me time and weeds out the herd to true truth seekers.


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Your statement was the following:

Over 50% of Americans believe it was an inside job but no media or reporting of it. This, in itself, is very telling. imho

Just the fact that you say over 50% seems suspect. How much over? If it were really true I would suspect that we would not have heard the end of it from the media, and Bush would have been literally thrown out of office years ago.

Just the fact that you say over 50% seems suspect. How much over? If it were really true I would suspect that we would not have heard the end of it from the media, and Bush would have been literally thrown out of office years ago.

Let the suspecting begin. No research means no answer.

Over 50% of Americans got screwed when Bush ambushed election results. Why should this be different?


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"Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind." - Dr. Seuss

Just the fact that you say over 50% seems suspect. How much over? If it were really true I would suspect that we would not have heard the end of it from the media, and Bush would have been literally thrown out of office years ago.

Let the suspecting begin. No research means no answer.

Over 50% of Americans got screwed when Bush ambushed election results. Why should this be different?


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Another opinion stated as fact!

Just the fact that you say over 50% seems suspect. How much over? If it were really true I would suspect that we would not have heard the end of it from the media, and Bush would have been literally thrown out of office years ago.

Let the suspecting begin. No research means no answer.

Over 50% of Americans got screwed when Bush ambushed election results. Why should this be different?


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Another opinion stated as fact!

LOL......that IS a fact.....I voted for him the first time, but not the second time around........
And I AM one of the screwed........

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"Freedom is just Chaos, with better lighting." Alan Dean Foster

Just the fact that you say over 50% seems suspect. How much over? If it were really true I would suspect that we would not have heard the end of it from the media, and Bush would have been literally thrown out of office years ago.

Let the suspecting begin. No research means no answer.

Over 50% of Americans got screwed when Bush ambushed election results. Why should this be different?


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Another opinion stated as fact!

LOL......that IS a fact.....I voted for him the first time, but not the second time around........
And I AM one of the screwed........

Explain how it was an ambush.

And I AM one of the screwed........

Oh no, not another Jesus impersonator... ;)

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It may not be 1984 but George Orwell sure did see the future . . .