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Jeffrey Send message Joined: 21 Nov 03 Posts: 4793 Credit: 26,029 RAC: 0 |
I appreciate you prefer to heckle, but sometimes a little detail goes a long way. Details don't go anywhere when they fall on deaf ears... therefore, I prefer to heckle... ;) (If you want details, pay me for them... Until then, you get heckles... Unless I'm banned or I stop, then you get nothing... That's capitalism my friend.) It may not be 1984 but George Orwell sure did see the future . . . |
StormKing Send message Joined: 6 Nov 00 Posts: 456 Credit: 2,887,579 RAC: 0 |
[quote] Since you mention 1984 in your signature, here is an Orwell quote: “During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act.†- George Orwell Continue heckling... |
Jeffrey Send message Joined: 21 Nov 03 Posts: 4793 Credit: 26,029 RAC: 0 |
“During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act.†- George Orwell 'You're either with us, or you're with the terrorists' ~ GWB 'Join us, or die like the rest' ~ TSA supervisor when I ticked him off... ;) (These days, we don't even need George Orwell quotes.) It may not be 1984 but George Orwell sure did see the future . . . |
MrGray Send message Joined: 17 Aug 05 Posts: 3170 Credit: 60,411 RAC: 0 |
Well... Since I've found other places more friendly and realistic to discuss this, I'll leave this thread with a final statement: No way the 3 towers in NYC fell from fire and plane collisions. Final answer? Yes. . "Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind." - Dr. Seuss |
Rush Send message Joined: 3 Apr 99 Posts: 3131 Credit: 302,569 RAC: 0 |
Welp, there it is folks. Classic hilarity. You simply can't make this stuff up. Just watch it here. Cordially, Rush elrushbo2@theobviousgmail.com Remove the obvious... |
MrGray Send message Joined: 17 Aug 05 Posts: 3170 Credit: 60,411 RAC: 0 |
PS: And ever trust someone who's job it is too torture "suspected" enemies. Takes a special sicko for that position. Uncle says so that's all he knows. . "Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind." - Dr. Seuss |
Fuzzy Hollynoodles Send message Joined: 3 Apr 99 Posts: 9659 Credit: 251,998 RAC: 0 |
To my eyes, 9/11/01 did not start or stop any trend. You don't need one. Same trend here, just a little delayed: Also the dot com bubble burst. Same tendencies here. "I'm trying to maintain a shred of dignity in this world." - Me |
Fuzzy Hollynoodles Send message Joined: 3 Apr 99 Posts: 9659 Credit: 251,998 RAC: 0 |
I see it's time on Rush again... "I'm trying to maintain a shred of dignity in this world." - Me |
StormKing Send message Joined: 6 Nov 00 Posts: 456 Credit: 2,887,579 RAC: 0 |
Well... This is simply a theory without proof to back it up. According to a 2006 poll, 16 percent of American adults believed that the World Trade Center may have been destroyed by controlled demolition, not by the effects of the airplanes. This idea has been rejected by NIST, which concluded that there were no explosives or controlled demolition involved in the collapses of the WTC towers. Controlled demolition is also dismissed in the engineering literature and is pursued mainly as part of larger conspiracy theories about the events of 9/11. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Collapse_of_the_World_Trade_Center http://www.nist.gov/public_affairs/factsheet/constructionact.htm http://wtc.nist.gov/pubs/factsheets/faqs_8_2006.htm http://www.civil.northwestern.edu/people/bazant/PDFs/Papers/466.pdf http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/military_law/4199607.html |
MrGray Send message Joined: 17 Aug 05 Posts: 3170 Credit: 60,411 RAC: 0 |
Know what percentage of Americans believe it was an inside job this year? . "Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind." - Dr. Seuss |
StormKing Send message Joined: 6 Nov 00 Posts: 456 Credit: 2,887,579 RAC: 0 |
Know what percentage of Americans believe it was an inside job this year? I have no idea... Probably not as high a percentage as the percentage of Americans who cannot point to Iraq on a map... |
MrGray Send message Joined: 17 Aug 05 Posts: 3170 Credit: 60,411 RAC: 0 |
You underestimate the American people on both counts. "Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind." - Dr. Seuss |
StormKing Send message Joined: 6 Nov 00 Posts: 456 Credit: 2,887,579 RAC: 0 |
You underestimate the American people on both counts. You are going to need academic proof; public opinion polls are not proof. Until then, your opinion is simply an unfounded theory. |
MrGray Send message Joined: 17 Aug 05 Posts: 3170 Credit: 60,411 RAC: 0 |
You underestimate the American people on both counts. As is yours. "Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind." - Dr. Seuss |
StormKing Send message Joined: 6 Nov 00 Posts: 456 Credit: 2,887,579 RAC: 0 |
You underestimate the American people on both counts. See below... |
Jeffrey Send message Joined: 21 Nov 03 Posts: 4793 Credit: 26,029 RAC: 0 |
Same trend here Not even close... ;) It may not be 1984 but George Orwell sure did see the future . . . |
bobby Send message Joined: 22 Mar 02 Posts: 2866 Credit: 17,789,109 RAC: 3 |
PS: And ever trust someone who's job it is too torture "suspected" enemies. More ad hom from the person looking for a more friendly place. Nice one MrGray. Can't beat the arguments so beat the people making them instead. How ironic, it was precisely that kind of attack against you that I took objection too a while back, only to see you do the same to me and now Rush. I think you'll find it's a bit more complicated than that ... |
bobby Send message Joined: 22 Mar 02 Posts: 2866 Credit: 17,789,109 RAC: 3 |
Know what percentage of Americans believe it was an inside job this year? And this is important because truth is a popularity contest, right? How does this compare with the percentage of Americans who believed that Saddam was a primary sponsor of Al Queda back in 2003? Or those that believe that evolution is "just a theory" on a par with Intelligent Design? Or that homeopathy is a valid form of medicine? Do you understand that it doesn't matter how many people believe something utterly false, their believing otherwise doesn't change a thing? I think you'll find it's a bit more complicated than that ... |
Dr. C.E.T.I. Send message Joined: 29 Feb 00 Posts: 16019 Credit: 794,685 RAC: 0 |
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Jeffrey Send message Joined: 21 Nov 03 Posts: 4793 Credit: 26,029 RAC: 0 |
Do you understand that it doesn't matter how many people believe something utterly false, their believing otherwise doesn't change a thing? There are gonna be a lot of surprised people burning in hell... Dat's fer sure... ;) It may not be 1984 but George Orwell sure did see the future . . . |
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