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Message 779621 - Posted: 6 Jul 2008, 10:06:30 UTC

We should have a Plan B in order to keep SETI@home up and running whatever is going to happen Arecibo.

Here's my proposal for Plan B: "Using the data from Parkes radio telescope to create SETI@home workunits."

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Message 780048 - Posted: 7 Jul 2008, 1:05:39 UTC - in response to Message 779621.  

We should have a Plan B in order to keep SETI@home up and running whatever is going to happen Arecibo.

Here's my proposal for Plan B: "Using the data from Parkes radio telescope to create SETI@home workunits."

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Plan B should be Plan A

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Message 780082 - Posted: 7 Jul 2008, 3:32:39 UTC
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I'm not really one who knows the answer here but..............If memory serves.........When Boinc first started up one of the items I remember was some claims saying that they intended to gather signals from the Southern Hemisphere for processing by Boinc software in addition to Arecebo data. Never came to pass if this is true.

Even Arecebo does not cover the entire sky in the Northern Hemishpere due to the fact that the main reflector is stationary. Only covers about 30% of the Northeren Hemisphere sky if I remember correctly.

The dish diameters at various facilities are as follows.........

Arecebo ............. 305M
Jodrell Bank ......... 76M
Parkes ................. 64M

It may be that we presently lack sufficient receiver sensitivity to utilize the smaller dishes which are 1/4 the size of Arecebo. If so then we need to make sure Arecebo stays funded.
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Message 780093 - Posted: 7 Jul 2008, 4:21:42 UTC - in response to Message 780082.  
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I'm not really one who knows the answer here but..............If memory serves.........When Boinc first started up one of the items I remember was some claims saying that they intended to gather signals from the Southern Hemisphere for processing by Boinc software in addition to Arecebo data. Never came to pass if this is true.

Even Arecebo does not cover the entire sky in the Northern Hemishpere due to the fact that the main reflector is stationary. Only covers about 30% of the Northeren Hemisphere sky if I remember correctly.

The dish diameters at various facilities are as follows.........

Arecebo ............. 305M
Jodrell Bank ......... 76M
Parkes ................. 64M

It may be that we presently lack sufficient receiver sensitivity to utilize the smaller dishes which are 1/4 the size of Arecebo. If so then we need to make sure Arecebo stays funded.

Two other big dishes are at Effelsberg, Germany, (100 m) and Green Bank, Virginia, (100 m) but I don't think they are doing SETI searches. Both Arecibo and Effelsberg take part in the European EXPReS program of Very Long Base Interferometry (see the Arecibo home page).
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Message 780288 - Posted: 7 Jul 2008, 16:16:15 UTC

Printed mine out this morning and handed them to the mailman. Hopefully the funding bill will go through...
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Message 780477 - Posted: 8 Jul 2008, 0:27:32 UTC
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Already found some Seti stuff there: Seti@Jodrell
It's time to add more alien signal sources ;-)
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Message 781238 - Posted: 9 Jul 2008, 20:45:37 UTC - in response to Message 778266.  

I'd like to volunteer a year service to Arecibo... Assuming accommodations are provided.


I would like to do the same... And I am on the wrong side of the planet, so cant help with the mails to save Arecibo. Wish there was something else that we could do...
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Message 781366 - Posted: 10 Jul 2008, 20:28:33 UTC

I've put the letters in the mail.

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Message 781625 - Posted: 12 Jul 2008, 15:02:55 UTC

For any users familiar with G4TV's Attack of the Show, they ran a headline in The Feed talking about Arecibo's problems and they even specifically mentioned SETI@Home and displayed its screen saver.

I don't know exact numbers, but I'm pretty sure AOTS has at least 1 million viewers. Target demographic is 17-36 year olds. G4TV, formerly TechTV was purchased by Comcast in 2004.

You can watch The Feed here (2 min. 51 sec., Arecibo news at :45 seconds).

Hopefully that will help save Arecibo too.


Thanks to all our friends at G4TV!
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Message 781726 - Posted: 12 Jul 2008, 17:47:03 UTC - in response to Message 781668.  

For any users familiar with G4TV's Attack of the Show, they ran a headline in The Feed talking about Arecibo's problems and they even specifically mentioned SETI@Home and displayed its screen saver.

I don't know exact numbers, but I'm pretty sure AOTS has at least 1 million viewers. Target demographic is 17-36 year olds. G4TV, formerly TechTV was purchased by Comcast in 2004.

You can watch The Feed here (2 min. 51 sec., Arecibo news at :45 seconds).

Hopefully that will help save Arecibo too.


Thanks to all our friends at G4TV!

Ah yes Seti is getting help from the Reds now. ;) Well better than nothing. :D


The Reds? I don't follow. Communist?
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Message 782386 - Posted: 13 Jul 2008, 22:08:10 UTC

[url]=http://www.nrao.edu/pr/2008/strangepulsar/ [/url] shows the current usefulness of Arecibo. It might help to include in the letters written to our representatives.
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Message 782388 - Posted: 13 Jul 2008, 22:10:16 UTC - in response to Message 782386.  

This shows the current usefulness of Arecibo. It might help to include in the letters written to our representatives.

Just editing the BBCode to make the link active.

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Message 799635 - Posted: 18 Aug 2008, 15:19:20 UTC

To be fair, this is the letter I received from my Congressman. I received nothing from the two senators.

Thank you for sharing your support for funding for the Arecibo Observatory. I appreciate hearing from you on this issue.

As a member of the Science and Technology Committee, I appreciate the benefits that result from national resources such as Arecibo Observatory. For more than forty years, the observatory has been operating as the largest radio telescope in the world and has contributed greatly to scientific knowledge. Arecibo is operated by Cornell University cooperatively with the National Science Foundation (NSF).

In 2006, after a "senior review" by the NSF, concern arose that the Arecibo Observatory could face closure. In response to the review, the NSF released a "frequently asked questions" document to address questions surrounding the review. In a question related to potential closure of Arecibo Observatory, NSF stated that Arecibo will only be closed as a last resort, and "only after every effort has been made to craft a sustainable scientific program ... utilizing support from all shareholders ... and the international astronomical community that utilizes the facility." NSF is exploring new models of operation that would allow the facility to accomplish much of the work that is currently done, at a reduced cost. As I understand, this study is to be completed by 2011.

On November 8, 2007, the Subcommittee on Space and Aeronautics held hearing on near ¬earth objects. Dr. Donald B. Campbell, the former director of the Arecibo Observatory, was invited to provide testimony to address the utility of Cornell's Arecibo Observatory in making detailed observations of potentially hazardous objects and helping to mitigate the threat they may pose to Earth.

The potential of such an important observatory closing concerns me. While the constraints on the federal budget cannot be ignored, sometimes short-term savings are chosen in place of long-term investments such as this facility. As the NSF works on establishing a new model of operation to cut costs in order to keep Arecibo operational, I will continue to monitor developments concerning the NSF and Arecibo Observatory.

Recently, the House passed H.R. 6063, the NASA Authorization Act of2008. The bill provided $2 million to continue planetary radar operations at the Arecibo Observatory in support of the Near-Earth Object program. The bill also reiterates congressional support for the use of the Arecibo Observatory for NASA-funded near-Earth object-related activities and states the administrator shall ensure the availability of the Arecibo Observatory's planetary radar to support these activities until the National Academies' review of NASA's approach for the survey and deflection of near-Earth objects, including a determination of the role of Arecibo, is completed.

Again, thank you for sharing your support for the continued funding and operation of the Arecibo Observatory. As Congress monitors the developments concerning Arecibo, I will keep your views in mind. If! can be further assistance, please contact me at 503-326-2901 or 800-422-4003 .
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Message 799653 - Posted: 18 Aug 2008, 16:22:43 UTC - in response to Message 799635.  

To be fair, this is the letter I received from my Congressman. I received nothing from the two senators.


I also received a response from my congressman and nothing from my senators...



Thank you for your recent correspondence reguarding the Arecibo Observatory. I appreciate the opportunity to respond.

I share your dedication to providing the resources necessary for the advancement of state-of-art scientific research in the United States. As a member of the House Education and Labor Committee, ensuring that our nation stays competitive in the fields of science and technology is one of my highest legislative priorities. I continue to work to take steps to ensure that our scientists, researchers and educators have the resources they need and the support they deserve.

The legislation you mentioned in your letter is currently under the consideration of the House Committee on Science and Technology. Be assured that, as we move forward, I shall keep working with like-minded colleagues to craft fiscal policies that reflect the shared values of the nation, including appropriate support for the National Science Foundation and the Arecibo Observatory. I appreciate your commitment to the same.

Again, thank you for contacting me. Please feel free to do so regarding any matter of concern to you.



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Message 799656 - Posted: 18 Aug 2008, 16:32:20 UTC - in response to Message 799635.  


. . . Dr. Korpela recently submitted an Application, and has received Funding from the National Science Foundation for that Grant Application




To be fair, this is the letter I received from my Congressman. I received nothing from the two senators.

Thank you for sharing your support for funding for the Arecibo Observatory. I appreciate hearing from you on this issue.

As a member of the Science and Technology Committee, I appreciate the benefits that result from national resources such as Arecibo Observatory. For more than forty years, the observatory has been operating as the largest radio telescope in the world and has contributed greatly to scientific knowledge. Arecibo is operated by Cornell University cooperatively with the National Science Foundation (NSF).

In 2006, after a "senior review" by the NSF, concern arose that the Arecibo Observatory could face closure. In response to the review, the NSF released a "frequently asked questions" document to address questions surrounding the review. In a question related to potential closure of Arecibo Observatory, NSF stated that Arecibo will only be closed as a last resort, and "only after every effort has been made to craft a sustainable scientific program ... utilizing support from all shareholders ... and the international astronomical community that utilizes the facility." NSF is exploring new models of operation that would allow the facility to accomplish much of the work that is currently done, at a reduced cost. As I understand, this study is to be completed by 2011.

On November 8, 2007, the Subcommittee on Space and Aeronautics held hearing on near ¬earth objects. Dr. Donald B. Campbell, the former director of the Arecibo Observatory, was invited to provide testimony to address the utility of Cornell's Arecibo Observatory in making detailed observations of potentially hazardous objects and helping to mitigate the threat they may pose to Earth.

The potential of such an important observatory closing concerns me. While the constraints on the federal budget cannot be ignored, sometimes short-term savings are chosen in place of long-term investments such as this facility. As the NSF works on establishing a new model of operation to cut costs in order to keep Arecibo operational, I will continue to monitor developments concerning the NSF and Arecibo Observatory.

Recently, the House passed H.R. 6063, the NASA Authorization Act of2008. The bill provided $2 million to continue planetary radar operations at the Arecibo Observatory in support of the Near-Earth Object program. The bill also reiterates congressional support for the use of the Arecibo Observatory for NASA-funded near-Earth object-related activities and states the administrator shall ensure the availability of the Arecibo Observatory's planetary radar to support these activities until the National Academies' review of NASA's approach for the survey and deflection of near-Earth objects, including a determination of the role of Arecibo, is completed.

Again, thank you for sharing your support for the continued funding and operation of the Arecibo Observatory. As Congress monitors the developments concerning Arecibo, I will keep your views in mind. If! can be further assistance, please contact me at 503-326-2901 or 800-422-4003 .





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Message 799699 - Posted: 18 Aug 2008, 19:18:44 UTC

These last three posts look promising, don't they?
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