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Message 771260 - Posted: 21 Jun 2008, 11:27:34 UTC - in response to Message 771257.  

The truth lays hidden on the grassy knoll....it is not he that be buried there......... .............
Many shots were fired from there..........not from the patsy........

The Studies Ignored forensic evidnence.........because politics demanded that they do so..........no truth has ever been laid bare.



I, surely, haven't forgot about his assasination !


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Message 771262 - Posted: 21 Jun 2008, 11:36:33 UTC
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There was NOT a 'lone assisin'.......how clear can this be, and how long can this stand?
XXX munber of years, I guess.............
'Till they can stand back and rewrite history...........or admit what really happened......
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Message 771270 - Posted: 21 Jun 2008, 11:52:22 UTC

What does this say about we citizens?

What message does our passivity send to the power brokers?
"Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind." - Dr. Seuss
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Message 771274 - Posted: 21 Jun 2008, 11:58:18 UTC - in response to Message 771270.  

What does this say about we citizens?

What message does our passivity send to the power brokers?

THEY CAN CONTINUE.......
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Message 771279 - Posted: 21 Jun 2008, 12:20:07 UTC - in response to Message 771260.  

The truth lays hidden on the grassy knoll....it is not he that be buried there......... .............
Many shots were fired from there..........not from the patsy........

The Studies Ignored forensic evidnence.........because politics demanded that they do so..........no truth has ever been laid bare.



I, surely, haven't forgot about his assasination !



Neither have I.

A quote from The Times, 23rd November 1963....

Inevitably, Winston Churchill provided the pithiest instant epitaph: “This monstrous act has taken from us a great statesman and a wise and valiant man. The loss to the United States and to the world is incalculable.”



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Message 771289 - Posted: 21 Jun 2008, 12:51:09 UTC - in response to Message 771240.  

Wasn't JFK a US President who was killed and had the documents of his death seal for 50 years so the bad guys could walk?



Anyone for a wager? 2013/2014 - I bet excuses will be found to keep them sealed!
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Message 771330 - Posted: 21 Jun 2008, 14:32:13 UTC - in response to Message 771279.  

The truth lays hidden on the grassy knoll....it is not he that be buried there......... .............
Many shots were fired from there..........not from the patsy........

The Studies Ignored forensic evidnence.........because politics demanded that they do so..........no truth has ever been laid bare.



I, surely, haven't forgot about his assasination !



Neither have I.

A quote from The Times, 23rd November 1963....

Inevitably, Winston Churchill provided the pithiest instant epitaph: “This monstrous act has taken from us a great statesman and a wise and valiant man. The loss to the United States and to the world is incalculable.”


That, my friend.....was the kindest turn of words that could be applied to the event......

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Message 771361 - Posted: 21 Jun 2008, 15:20:05 UTC - in response to Message 771253.  

But I absolutely believe that he was assinted for his belief in the Christian faith.........

Which, at the time, was better known as, 'the Catholic faith'... ;)

(Mr Bush is of, 'the Christian faith'.)
It may not be 1984 but George Orwell sure did see the future . . .
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Message 771366 - Posted: 21 Jun 2008, 15:23:22 UTC - in response to Message 771361.  

But I absolutely believe that he was assinted for his belief in the Christian faith.........

Which, at the time, was better known as, 'the Catholic faith'... ;)

(Mr Bush is of, 'the Christian faith'.)

I was born and raised a Catholic.....much to their chagrin.......
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Message 771381 - Posted: 21 Jun 2008, 15:59:14 UTC - in response to Message 771366.  
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[Post moved to a more appropriate location]... ;)
It may not be 1984 but George Orwell sure did see the future . . .
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Message 771383 - Posted: 21 Jun 2008, 16:02:15 UTC - in response to Message 771361.  

But I absolutely believe that he was assinted for his belief in the Christian faith.........

Which, at the time, was better known as, 'the Catholic faith'... ;)

(Mr. Bush is of, 'the Christian faith'.)


Funny how that name always turns up in the strangest of situations.
http://inquirer.gn.apc.org/bush_story.html
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Message 771467 - Posted: 21 Jun 2008, 18:24:47 UTC

Slightly off topic.......

22/11/63 was shocking. This one was personally more shocking as it happened on my 12th birthday...

"The assassination of Robert F. Kennedy, a United States Senator and brother of assassinated President John F. Kennedy, took place shortly after midnight on June 5, 1968".

Quote copied from Wikipedia.
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Message 771514 - Posted: 21 Jun 2008, 19:04:40 UTC

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Message 771518 - Posted: 21 Jun 2008, 19:09:49 UTC

JFK on Civil Rights

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Message 771523 - Posted: 21 Jun 2008, 19:13:21 UTC

JFK vs. Big Steel

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Message 771528 - Posted: 21 Jun 2008, 19:16:16 UTC

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Message 771681 - Posted: 21 Jun 2008, 23:35:26 UTC

From a speech in 1962, addressing the Economic Club of NY, as he pushed hard to cut taxes and let people keep more of what they make, and after getting the hell rid of Galbraith--sending him to India. The underlining is mine.

"...But the most direct and significant kind of Federal action aiding economic growth is to make possible an increase in private consumption and investment demand--to cut the fetters which hold back private spending. In the past, this could be done in part by the increased use of credit and monetary tools, but our balance of payments situation today places limits on our use of those tools for expansion. It could also be done by increasing Federal expenditures more rapidly than necessary, but such a course would soon demoralize both the Government and our economy. If Government is to retain the confidence of the people, it must not spend more than can be justified on grounds of national need or spent with maximum efficiency. I shall say more on this in a moment.

"The final and best means of strengthening demand among consumers and business is to reduce the burden on private income and the deterrents to private initiative which are imposed by our present tax system; and this administration pledged itself last summer to an across-the-board, top-to-bottom cut in personal and corporate income taxes to be enacted and become effective in 1963.

"I am not talking about a "quickie" or a temporary tax cut, which would be more appropriate if a recession were imminent. Nor am I talking about giving the economy a mere shot in the arm, to ease some temporary complaint. I am talking about the accumulated evidence of the last 5 years that our present tax system, developed as it was, in good part, during World War II to restrain growth, exerts too heavy a drag on growth in peace time; that it siphons out of the private economy too large a share of personal and business purchasing power; that it reduces the financial incentives for personal effort, investment, and risk-taking.

"In short, to increase demand and lift the economy, the Federal Government's most useful role is not to rush into a program of excessive increases in public expenditures, but to expand the incentives and opportunities for private expenditures.

"Under these circumstances, any new tax legislation--and you can understand that under the comity which exists in the United States Constitution whereby the Ways and Means Committee in the House of Representatives have the responsibility of initiating this legislation, that the details of any proposal should wait on the meeting of the Congress in January. But you can understand that under these circumstances, in general, that any new tax legislation enacted next year should meet the following three tests:

"First, it should reduce net taxes by a sufficiently early date and a sufficiently large amount to do the job required. Early action could give us extra leverage, added results, and important insurance against recession. Too large a tax cut, of course, could result in inflation and insufficient future revenues--but the greatest danger is a tax cut too little or too late to be effective.

"Second, the new tax bill must increase private consumption as well as investment. Consumers are still spending between 92 and 94 'percent of their after-tax income, as they have every year since 1950. But that after-tax income could and should be greater, providing stronger markets for the products of American industry. When consumers purchase more goods, plants use more of their capacity, men are hired instead of laid off, investment increases and profits are high.

"Corporate tax rates must also be cut to increase incentives and the availability of investment capital. The Government has already taken major steps this year to reduce business tax liability and to stimulate the modernization, replacement, and expansion of our productive plant and equipment. We have done this through the 1962 investment tax credit and through the liberalization of depreciation allowances--two essential parts of our first step in tax revision which amounted to a 10 percent reduction in corporate income taxes worth $2.5 billion. Now we need to increase consumer demand to make these measures fully effective--demand which will make more use of existing capacity and thus increase both profits and the incentive to invest. In fact, profits after taxes would be at least 15 percent higher today if we were operating at full employment.

"For all these reasons, next year's tax bill should reduce personal as well as corporate income taxes, for those in the lower brackets, who are certain to spend their additional take-home pay, and for those in the middle and upper brackets, who can thereby be encouraged to undertake additional efforts and enabled to invest more capital.

"Third, the new tax bill should improve both the equity and the simplicity of our present tax system. This means the enactment of long-needed tax reforms, a broadening of the tax base and the elimination or modification of many special tax privileges. These steps are not only needed to recover lost revenue and thus make possible a larger cut in present rates; they are also tied directly to our goal of greater growth. For the present patchwork of special provisions and preferences lightens the tax load of some only at the cost of placing a heavier burden on others. It distorts economic judgments and channels an undue amount of energy into efforts to avoid tax liabilities. It makes certain types of less productive activity more profitable than other more valuable undertakings. All this inhibits our growth and efficiency, as well as considerably complicating the work of both the taxpayer and the Internal Revenue Service.

"These various exclusions and concessions have been justified in part as a means of overcoming oppressively high rates in the upper brackets--and a sharp reduction in those rates, accompanied by base-broadening, loophole-closing measures, would properly make the new rates not only lower but also more widely applicable. Surely this is more equitable on both counts.

"Those are the three tests which the right kind of bill must meet and I am confident that the enactment of the right bill next year will in due course increase our gross national product by several times the amount of taxes actually cut. Profit margins will be improved and both the incentive to invest and the supply of internal funds for investment will be increased. There will be new interest in taking risks, in increasing productivity, in creating new jobs and new products for long-term economic growth...."
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Message 771761 - Posted: 22 Jun 2008, 3:11:51 UTC

Thanks Rush. It's obvious those T**ts in the Labour Government here don't believe in those ideals.
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Message 772031 - Posted: 22 Jun 2008, 18:04:19 UTC

But they get a whole lot of damn hell ass voters to buy into their Barbra Streisand...Kennedy knew better, he got tired of Keynesians and fast.

"Somebody ELSE will be paying for it, YAY!"
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