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Message 770540 - Posted: 19 Jun 2008, 22:15:19 UTC - in response to Message 770441.  

If anyone understands the above please help me because I am completely lost...

Take your time. Slow down. Diagram the sentences if you need to. Remember to focus on the subject, the action it's taking, and the descriptions of that action.

How about you writing clearly without obfuscating with quotes from cartoon characters..

If he wrote clearly people would understand what he was saying.

..then they would realise that he's talking what is technically called s**te.
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Message 770589 - Posted: 20 Jun 2008, 0:23:53 UTC - in response to Message 770540.  

If he wrote clearly people would understand what he was saying.

The sentences are clear, you understand the words, if it's beyond you, diagram them. Start with the subject, that is usually a noun. Find what the subject is doing, that would be a verb.

Use this sentence: "I get the impression that most people here expressly deny simple economics in order to maintain the pretty little worldview that they have in their heads."

I would explain it, but I would just say that it means that I get the impression that most people here expressly deny simple economics in order to maintain the pretty little worldview that they have in their heads.

...then they would realise that he's talking what is technically called s**te.

Is that because you sez so? You stated it was true, so therefore it is?

Here, I'll start your arguments for you: "The price of bananas and DVD players must rise and fall in lockstep because..."

Or,

"Adding layers of gov't bureaucracy, regulation, and taxes doesn't drive costs up, it drives them down because..."
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Message 770643 - Posted: 20 Jun 2008, 2:31:48 UTC - in response to Message 770589.  

in order to maintain the pretty little worldview that they have in their heads.

Well, that counts me out... ;)
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Message 772012 - Posted: 22 Jun 2008, 17:28:59 UTC - in response to Message 770429.  
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@Rush.

SNIP....
Conversely, A DVD player relies very little on shipping costs because they don't need near overnight shipping. They use a conex on a container ship, which is probably the cheapest shipping there is. They aren't speed dependent, and the company that build them long since factored SLOW travel time into the price of the player.
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DVD players probably rely more on shipping than people think. DVD players have hundreds if not thousands of components that are rarely sourced from one country.

We might read the words "made in xxx / china / japan / USA / Hong Kong .ect...) but that does not mean the components were. Mostly it means either the packaging, labelling or final construction happened there.

A DVD player = Screws from Germany. Plastic pelets pre-formation from India. Oil products mixed from 10 or more countries around the world. Gold from Africa. Aluminium from the USA. Glass from France. Silicon from Saudi. Germanium from the Baltics. Arsenic from Canada. Cyanide from Russia. Audio technology from Europe. Video Technology from the States. ..... Blah blah blah.

The reality is that a DVD player in it's pre-constructed state may include transport costs that are equal to circling the planet several times just for one final finished £20 product.

I do realise the same can happen with foods like vegetables and meats but with food these extra costs do not need to be there for most western or temperate climate countries.

A cow = Mom and Dad. Grass / vegetable matter. Kill the cow. Chop it up. Salt, preserve or cool. Transport less than 50 miles.

Unless of course you live in the UK where we eat chickens from china, eggs & milk & cheese from Europe, butter from Ireland, lamb from New Zealand, beef from America and alchohol from some factory god knows where...... (Tongue-in-cheek but true to a degree..)


As you say "apples and oranges"... Two fruits. Different foods. Neither is a DVD player however. ( :o)~ I'm being cheeky..)


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... How much to vaccinate a DVD player against diseases and protect your investment?
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There are probably bio/chemists on this board that can answer this question better than I can but at a guess any company that want's it's DVD players (or electronic products) to last more that a year or two will have probably spent millions trying to avoid disease within their products.

Most film based technologies are susceptible to disease. Bacteria, microbes and virsues can strip the elements from the thin technologies used in cheap commodoties quite quickly. For example in certain parts of Africa a CD or DVD (even professionally mastered) will not last for more than a few months as the aluminium is a source of food for certain microbes.


I understand that there are many facets to the way end costs are arrived at.

That was never the point of this thread.


I still however think it odd that it is cheaper these days to dress yourself or watch a DVD than it is to feed yourself.


We can argue pure capitalist (or any political) ethics as long as we like but it is still bizaar when we are being told there is a shortage of food and the price is rising when products that have lesser health value are becoming more abundant and cost less.



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Message 772040 - Posted: 22 Jun 2008, 18:22:18 UTC - in response to Message 772012.  

rush and brainde, please try to be clever next time , you have been embarrassingly lame.
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Message 772063 - Posted: 22 Jun 2008, 18:54:40 UTC
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I still however think it odd that it is cheaper these days to dress yourself or watch a DVD than it is to feed yourself.


I fail to see what's odd about it...this is Economics 101

Food is a necessity item in short supply, DVD players are a luxury item in a flooded market.


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Message 772064 - Posted: 22 Jun 2008, 18:59:17 UTC - in response to Message 772012.  

DVD players probably rely more on shipping than people think. DVD players have hundreds if not thousands of components that are rarely sourced from one country.

>snip<

As you say "apples and oranges"... Two fruits. Different foods. Neither is a DVD player however. ( :o)~ I'm being cheeky..)

Heh. 8^]

Crunch, you're just reinforcing my point. I said: "But keep in mind, all this just applies to one aspect of the two products.... There are MANY MANY more, the market price, costs of labor, taxes, regulation, market price for raw materials, and on and on and on. This is why it's impossible to know that so-called true cost of anything. The elements that make up the price are numerous, always changing, and can vary considerably over time."
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