I do know God has never spoken to me.

And yet here you are, in the religious thread, talking about religion... ;)

i came here too to see is the other end of the thread tied up to god´s toe,
but it was not

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"Sometimes I think the surest sign that intelligent life exist elsewhere in the Universe is that none of it has tried to contact us."
Calvin to the Hobbes

Proverbs 27:14
He that blesseth his friend with a loud voice, rising early in the morning, it shall be counted a curse to him.

Have you cursed your friends today... ;)

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It may not be 1984 but George Orwell sure did see the future . . .

Have you cursed your friends today... ;)

Many times over.

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me@rescam.org

Proverbs 27:14
He that blesseth his friend with a loud voice, rising early in the morning, it shall be counted a curse to him.

Have you cursed your friends today... ;)

Oooh I like that chapter, It has stuff about fools and women in it. Look after your fig tree:

Proverbs 27:12
A prudent man foreseeth the evil, and hideth himself; but the simple pass on and are punished.

Proverbs 27:18
Whoso keepeth the fig tree shall eat the fruit thereof: so he that waiteth on his master shall be honoured.

Proverbs 27:22
Though thou shouldest bray a fool in the mortar among wheat with a pestle, yet will not his foolishness depart from him.

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"Living by the wisdom of computer science doesn't sound so bad after all. And unlike most advice, it's backed up by proofs." -- Algorithms to live by: The computer science of human decisions.

Look after your fig tree:

Proverbs 27:12
A prudent man foreseeth the evil, and hideth himself; but the simple pass on and are punished.

Proverbs 27:6
Faithful are the wounds of a friend; but the kisses of an enemy are deceitful.

Let's just say, I took one for the team... ;)

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It may not be 1984 but George Orwell sure did see the future . . .

Proverbs 27:12
A prudent man foreseeth the evil, and hideth himself; but the simple pass on and are punished.

Proverbs 27:6
Faithful are the wounds of a friend; but the kisses of an enemy are deceitful.

Let's just say, I took one for the team... ;)

LoL, an optimist, I hope you took out some insurance.

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"Living by the wisdom of computer science doesn't sound so bad after all. And unlike most advice, it's backed up by proofs." -- Algorithms to live by: The computer science of human decisions.

I offer a few thoughts to this thread which I hope are relevant:

It strikes me as the height of arrogance and conceit for anyone to presume to know anything at all about God, or presume to speak for God, or to believe God is somehow on your side.

It's very difficult to know that which doesn't exist.

It's very difficult to know that which doesn't exist.

The existence of God can be neither proven nor dis proven...

However, I can certainly provide proof that Gods word exists...

What can you prove? ;)

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It may not be 1984 but George Orwell sure did see the future . . .

It's very difficult to know that which doesn't exist.

The existence of God can be neither proven nor dis proven...

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That's your opinion :o)~

Snip...
However, I can certainly provide proof that Gods word exists...

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Aften the statement that the existence of "God" can not be proven one way or the other it would be interesting to see you provide "proof that Gods word exists"...

Knock yourself out :o)~

Snip...
What can you prove? ;)

I know you weren't talking to me but I bet I can prove that "I" exist, "you" exist and the "environment around us" exists.


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Didn't know where else to post this: this thread seems apropos

Friday, June 27, 2008
By: 680News staff
Mississauga, Ont.

The brother of a Mississauga teenager who was killed in December 2007 is now charged with first-degree murder.

16-year-old Aqsa Parvez was strangled to death in what friends have said was a dispute over her reluctance to wear a traditional Muslim head scarf.

Her father, 57-year-old Muhammed Parvez, was initially charged with second-degree murder soon after the girl's death. However, the charge was upgraded last week to first-degree murder.

And now the same charge has been laid against the teenager's older brother, 26-year-old Waqas Parvez.

The brother had previously been charged with obstructing police.

Friends of the victim have also said that before Aqsa was killed, she rebelled against strict Muslim rules at home and had been living at a friend's house in the days before she died.

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Pure mathematics is, in its way, the poetry of logical ideas.

Albert Einstein

Didn't know where else to post this: this thread seems apropos

And if you're interested in the other hundred non-muslim murders per day, feel free to watch the daily news... ;)

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It may not be 1984 but George Orwell sure did see the future . . .

Didn't know where else to post this: this thread seems apropos

And if you're interested in the other hundred non-muslim murders per day, feel free to watch the daily news... ;)

Yeah, but to murder one’s own child, well, that requires a special level of malevolence: just the thing religion specializes in... ;)

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Pure mathematics is, in its way, the poetry of logical ideas.

Albert Einstein

Yeah, but to murder one’s own child, well, that requires a special level of malevolence:

I feel the same way about abortion... ;)

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It may not be 1984 but George Orwell sure did see the future . . .

Didn't know where else to post this: this thread seems apropos

And if you're interested in the other hundred non-muslim murders per day, feel free to watch the daily news... ;)

Yeah, but to murder one’s own child, well, that requires a special level of malevolence: just the thing religion specializes in... ;)

Leaving aside the arguement of abortion - It is not just Muslim's who kill their own children sometimes. Christians, Jews, Pagans, Atheists, Hindus, Agnostics and non-religious have done the same.

That we notice the stories about Muslim children being killed or harmed more than the sufferance of children in our own communities I suspect is more to do with the way our "news" tends to work and our (natural?) inability to question our own cultures.

It is a terror that young people in our world have to face such sufferance from the people they should be able to trust in.

It is to our absolute shame that women are at higher risk of being killed.


For me Kenzie your post (Message 774997) is not really a "religious" issue.

It's about the socio/psycho-pathic behaiviour of a father and son who lost their ability to see how precious this woman was.

No one can excuse themselves for harming another regardless of their religious, scientific, political, cultural, social or personal beliefs.

As a society and as a race of beings we (each and every one of us) are responsible to ensure we do our best to protect each other.



(PS: I do not believe that killing your own child is more malevolant than killing another person's child... We are all child to someone.)

and it would not make any better news if the daughter would have killed her father and brother, regardless of religion.

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"Sometimes I think the surest sign that intelligent life exist elsewhere in the Universe is that none of it has tried to contact us."
Calvin to the Hobbes

The Prodigal Son

Luke 15:11-16
And he said, There was a man who had two sons. And the younger of them said to his father, Father, give me the share of property that is coming to me. And he divided his property between them. Not many days later, the younger son gathered all he had and took a journey into a far country, and there he squandered his property in reckless living. And when he had spent everything, a severe famine arose in that country, and he began to be in need. So he went and hired himself out to one of the citizens of that country, who sent him into his fields to feed pigs. And he was longing to be fed with the pods that the pigs ate, and no one gave him anything.

Luke 15:17-24
But when he came to himself, he said, How many of my father's hired servants have more than enough bread, but I perish here with hunger! I will arise and go to my father, and I will say to him, Father, I have sinned against heaven and before you. I am no longer worthy to be called your son. Treat me as one of your hired servants. And he arose and came to his father. But while he was still a long way off, his father saw him and felt compassion, and ran and embraced him and kissed him. And the son said to him, Father, I have sinned against heaven and before you. I am no longer worthy to be called your son. But the father said to his servants, Bring quickly the best robe, and put it on him, and put a ring on his hand, and shoes on his feet. And bring the fattened calf and kill it, and let us eat and celebrate. For this my son was dead, and is alive again; he was lost, and is found. And they began to celebrate.

Luke 15:25-32
Now his older son was in the field, and as he came and drew near to the house, he heard music and dancing. And he called one of the servants and asked what these things meant. And he said to him, Your brother has come, and your father has killed the fattened calf, because he has received him back safe and sound. But he was angry and refused to go in. His father came out and entreated him, but he answered his father, Look, these many years I have served you, and I never disobeyed your command, yet you never gave me a young goat, that I might celebrate with my friends. But when this son of yours came, who has devoured your property with prostitutes, you killed the fattened calf for him! And he said to him, Son, you are always with me, and all that is mine is yours. It was fitting to celebrate and be glad, for this your brother was dead, and is alive; he was lost, and is found.

A parents job is never done... ;)

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It may not be 1984 but George Orwell sure did see the future . . .

An 'all too familiar' clipping I stumbled upon:

Anyone contemplating becoming a believer will have to make a tough choice between life and death. He or she will have the option of submitting to Antichrist's rule or facing martyrdom. Those who decide to follow Antichrist will be compelled to receive a mark that will leave them eternally damned. Taking the martyrdom route will be no picnic.

Woe is me... ;)

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It may not be 1984 but George Orwell sure did see the future . . .

An 'all too familiar' clipping I stumbled upon:

Anyone contemplating becoming a believer will have to make a tough choice between life and death. He or she will have the option of submitting to Antichrist's rule or facing martyrdom. Those who decide to follow Antichrist will be compelled to receive a mark that will leave them eternally damned. Taking the martyrdom route will be no picnic.

Woe is me... ;)

Well.. there's always playing in traffic.

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me@rescam.org

An 'all too familiar' clipping I stumbled upon:

Anyone contemplating becoming a believer will have to make a tough choice between life and death. He or she will have the option of submitting to Antichrist's rule or facing martyrdom. Those who decide to follow Antichrist will be compelled to receive a mark that will leave them eternally damned. Taking the martyrdom route will be no picnic.

Woe is me... ;)

'Positive Christianity' is nothing new... Hitler was a 'christian' who played the 'pick and choose your scripture' game too:

Hitler advocated a "Positive Christianity", a belief system purged from what he objected to in traditional Christianity, and which reinvented Jesus as a fighter against the Jews.

Adolf Hitler

Positive Christianity

Sound familiar yet? ;)

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It may not be 1984 but George Orwell sure did see the future . . .