Astrokittie has launched from the Frozen Penny.....to meeeeeeeeeeow.....and beyond.

Showing a 44 hour time to landing......we shall see......

And to think Astro is the name of a Dog, And Katz Lightyear is crunchin on Astro. ;)

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Just rebuilt a P4 2.8 and let it run Astropulse, first unit says it will take 185 hours...Wonder how much credit it will offer?

EDIT Looks like the other guy that did this one got 1,261.42 Not bad.

8 hrs later it still shows 165 hours to completion. These are some long workunits. Looks like Astropulse is setup for Quads and beyond, I wouldn't even waste the time having my celeron run this. I bet when they make the switch a lot of slow machines will retire.

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Well....I have downloaded about 10 of the WUs, but Boinc has decided to let them wait a bit because the deadline is longer than some of the Seti work in the cache...so we'll see what happens when Boinc decides to crunch them..........

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I downloaded a couple of WU's to my Core2 lappie but have had to set NNW and suspend one of them as the core temps were heading north and I was concerned about thermal throttling. 10% progress in about 7 hours suggest a 70 hour crunch time.

Ambient doesn't help - it is unbearably hot here in the middle of the UK today. Must be getting towards 25C / 77F!!!
[tin hat on and running for cover already :))]

F.

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I downloaded a couple of WU's to my Core2 lappie but have had to set NNW and suspend one of them as the core temps were heading north and I was concerned about thermal throttling. 10% progress in about 7 hours suggest a 70 hour crunch time.

Ambient doesn't help - it is unbearably hot here in the middle of the UK today. Must be getting towards 25C / 77F!!!
[tin hat on and running for cover already :))]

F.

Looks like a heat wave compared to the barely 60F high in Washington, had to turn the heat on this morning in the living room.

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And no good credit hound!

I downloaded a couple of WU's to my Core2 lappie but have had to set NNW and suspend one of them as the core temps were heading north and I was concerned about thermal throttling. 10% progress in about 7 hours suggest a 70 hour crunch time.

Ambient doesn't help - it is unbearably hot here in the middle of the UK today. Must be getting towards 25C / 77F!!!
[tin hat on and running for cover already :))]

F.

Looks like a heat wave compared to the barely 60F high in Washington, had to turn the heat on this morning in the living room.

Rumour has it that today and tomorrow are our Summer - downhill all the way from here...

F.

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Mark et al

At this point I would Set No New Work/Tasks and report in Astropulse (also) forum how the Penny sorts it out. I am sure that Josh would be interested in the results.

Please insure that you return what Results You can, During MultiBeam the Testers represented a bit over 1% of the Seti Population which gave a good cross platform for testing. Currently the Dedicated Testers are at about 0.6% That makes it tougher.

Well....I have downloaded about 10 of the WUs, but Boinc has decided to let them wait a bit because the deadline is longer than some of the Seti work in the cache...so we'll see what happens when Boinc decides to crunch them..........

Edit
I have noticed that one machine connected and got more than 100 AP workunits. Because of the DCF (and the Splitter estimates) that your machine might have this is possible and a problem. IF you have a ten Day Cache you could get a surprise. The Scheduler will eventually balance it out...

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Well....I have downloaded about 10 of the WUs, but Boinc has decided to let them wait a bit because the deadline is longer than some of the Seti work in the cache...so we'll see what happens when Boinc decides to crunch them..........

I thought I had read in one of the threads somewhere that it was considered bad form to run Beta with any of the Optimized apps on your machine. So I decided against trying to hop into AstroPulse until it was "Production." Did I misinterpret that? Is there no concern about running Astropulse on a machine that is also running the Seti Op-Apps? I wouldn't mind throwing a bit of resources at AstroPulse early if I could keep running the Op-App too.

Thanks.

Well....I have downloaded about 10 of the WUs, but Boinc has decided to let them wait a bit because the deadline is longer than some of the Seti work in the cache...so we'll see what happens when Boinc decides to crunch them..........

I thought I had read in one of the threads somewhere that it was considered bad form to run Beta with any of the Optimized apps on your machine. So I decided against trying to hop into AstroPulse until it was "Production." Did I misinterpret that? Is there no concern about running Astropulse on a machine that is also running the Seti Op-Apps? I wouldn't mind throwing a bit of resources at AstroPulse early if I could keep running the Op-App too.

Thanks.

No problems at all running optimised apps here and default apps at the Beta site.

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These are some long workunits. Looks like Astropulse is setup for Quads and beyond, I wouldn't even waste the time having my celeron run this. I bet when they make the switch a lot of slow machines will retire.

AstroPulse will certainly be impossible for some systems, but setiathome_enhanced work will continue. The only real question at this point is whether the project will add the complexity to the server code to distribute work appropriately. It would be a pity to send AP work to hosts which have no chance of completing within deadline.

                                                                 Joe

Mumps et al

Currently the is no MultiBeam running in Seti Beta, the only location that optimized Seti App's is running is Seti Main.

In Seti Beta, the idea is to get the production application tested for the general public. It was noted that while getting MultiBeam ready for Seti that a couple of people were running the Seti Optimized Applications for the pure purpose of "credit." So unless it known that testing of an Optimized Application is happening it is bad form to run a different application.

Eric has no ill will towards people that compile their own application for testing. What is appreciated is that "you annouce you have did that," it makes it easier to sort "why did this crash on that Workunit?" An Example might be A few Win32 testers needed in the Enhanced forum...

Seti Beta does have testers that start the optimization process, one of the most notable is Joe (who also has access to lunatics). Joe is partly responsible for the speed that the generic application as it hit Seti main. That application does not depend on OS or whatever Instruction Set the CPU is capable of. Then the other optimizers take over from there.

Well....I have downloaded about 10 of the WUs, but Boinc has decided to let them wait a bit because the deadline is longer than some of the Seti work in the cache...so we'll see what happens when Boinc decides to crunch them..........

I thought I had read in one of the threads somewhere that it was considered bad form to run Beta with any of the Optimized apps on your machine. So I decided against trying to hop into AstroPulse until it was "Production." Did I misinterpret that? Is there no concern about running Astropulse on a machine that is also running the Seti Op-Apps? I wouldn't mind throwing a bit of resources at AstroPulse early if I could keep running the Op-App too.

Thanks.

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Mumps et al

Currently the is no MultiBeam running in Seti Beta, the only location that optimized Seti App's is running is Seti Main.

In Seti Beta, the idea is to get the production application tested for the general public. It was noted that while getting MultiBeam ready for Seti that a couple of people were running the Seti Optimized Applications for the pure purpose of "credit." So unless it known that testing of an Optimized Application is happening it is bad form to run a different application.

Eric has no ill will towards people that compile their own application for testing. What is appreciated is that "you annouce you have did that," it makes it easier to sort "why did this crash on that Workunit?" An Example might be A few Win32 testers needed in the Enhanced forum...

Seti Beta does have testers that start the optimization process, one of the most notable is Joe (who also has access to lunatics). Joe is partly responsible for the speed that the generic application as it hit Seti main. That application does not depend on OS or whatever Instruction Set the CPU is capable of. Then the other optimizers take over from there.

Well....I have downloaded about 10 of the WUs, but Boinc has decided to let them wait a bit because the deadline is longer than some of the Seti work in the cache...so we'll see what happens when Boinc decides to crunch them..........

I thought I had read in one of the threads somewhere that it was considered bad form to run Beta with any of the Optimized apps on your machine. So I decided against trying to hop into AstroPulse until it was "Production." Did I misinterpret that? Is there no concern about running Astropulse on a machine that is also running the Seti Op-Apps? I wouldn't mind throwing a bit of resources at AstroPulse early if I could keep running the Op-App too.

Thanks.

When I downloaded the Beta I did it on a machine that was running the opt app. Will beta use that app or would I have to reinstall it? Maybe it will speed that monster W/U up?

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You should be fine as Beta has it own file structure and will only use the AP Beta App... Neither will interfer with the other.

When I downloaded the Beta I did it on a machine that was running the opt app. Will beta use that app or would I have to reinstall it? Maybe it will speed that monster W/U up?

I would watch to see if Beta attempted to get more workunits than you can complete.

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You should be fine as Beta has it own file structure and will only use the AP Beta App... Neither will interfer with the other.

When I downloaded the Beta I did it on a machine that was running the opt app. Will beta use that app or would I have to reinstall it? Maybe it will speed that monster W/U up?

I would watch to see if Beta attempted to get more workunits than you can complete.

So far it seems to be happy with just one unit. Now it has 155 hours to go. Where do I find the Beta Opt App? This machine needs help, seems it will be a good test for others.

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Where do I find the Beta Opt App? This machine needs help, seems it will be a good test for others.

Beta has no work for setiathome_enhanced. All current optimized apps only do setiathome_enhanced work.

Testing of the AstroPulse application in the SETI@home/AstroPulse Beta project is focussed on finding any flaws in that stock application. Making an optimized version now would be premature.

                                                                Joe

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Where do I find the Beta Opt App? This machine needs help, seems it will be a good test for others.

Beta has no work for setiathome_enhanced. All current optimized apps only do setiathome_enhanced work.

Testing of the AstroPulse application in the SETI@home/AstroPulse Beta project is focussed on finding any flaws in that stock application. Making an optimized version now would be premature.

                                                                Joe

Well then, guess it will just have to take awhile. Will give progress reports...

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Pappa, Jason, Fred, etc, many thanks for a very informative thread. Even a dumbo like me can follow it.

Currently running QMC on team's POTM, but next month, they are competing in projects I'm not attached to or interested in, so will be crunching seti with my farm.

Seti beta with Astropulse looks an interesting proposition for my quad. Anyway, I need to bump up seti again.

Keep the info coming guys, it really is appreciated.

Regards

PJ

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Yea baby kicking butt, just have 118 hours to go to turn in my first unit. If this is going to make it to main stream somebody better start working on apps which should also get tested....

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Mark et al

At this point I would Set No New Work/Tasks and report in Astropulse (also) forum how the Penny sorts it out. I am sure that Josh would be interested in the results.

Please insure that you return what Results You can, During MultiBeam the Testers represented a bit over 1% of the Seti Population which gave a good cross platform for testing. Currently the Dedicated Testers are at about 0.6% That makes it tougher.

Well....I have downloaded about 10 of the WUs, but Boinc has decided to let them wait a bit because the deadline is longer than some of the Seti work in the cache...so we'll see what happens when Boinc decides to crunch them..........

Edit
I have noticed that one machine connected and got more than 100 AP workunits. Because of the DCF (and the Splitter estimates) that your machine might have this is possible and a problem. IF you have a ten Day Cache you could get a surprise. The Scheduler will eventually balance it out...

I have set Beta to NNT.....have 10 WUs downloaded. They have not started to crunch yet....but I'll keep ya posted.

A couple of other questions that I am not clear on, that were asked of me by another user....

I have read that MB work will continue when AP is taken live....do we get a choice of which we want to process, or is the scheduler going to send a mix of both out, or is it going to be a separate project like Beta is now?

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Mark et al

The current thought is that Enhanced MultiBeam and Astropulse run side by side.
Meaning a User can get a MultiBeam and/or an Astropulse in the same request for work.
* Those that would not get an Astropulse would be those who have an "app_info.xml" (meaning an optimized application or the standard application with a properly defined app_info.xml file).
* A user could setup an "app_info.xml" to get only Astropulse.

A Query was sent to see if a "Users Preferences" could have a setting for selection of one or the other or both (this takes programing and user intervention).
A Query was sent asking about whether the API for trickles could be implemented for machines taking extended time to complete an AP Result.

A couple of other questions that I am not clear on, that were asked of me by another user....

I have read that MB work will continue when AP is taken live....do we get a choice of which we want to process, or is the scheduler going to send a mix of both out, or is it going to be a separate project like Beta is now?

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