1,699 days left...

. . . and counting... ;)

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It may not be 1984 but George Orwell sure did see the future . . .

1,699 days left...

. . . and counting... ;)

More info please.

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Qunpu' lo'taHmo' jIH yItamQo'

I guess Jeffrey refers to the theory that together with the Mayan calendar (which is considered to be ending in about 4 years 8 months) the entire world as we know it is supposed to end...

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I guess Jeffrey refers to the theory that together with the Mayan calendar (which is considered to be ending in about 4 years 8 months) the entire world as we know it is supposed to end...

I wonder what all the Mayans will say when that fails to occur

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I guess Jeffrey refers to the theory that together with the Mayan calendar (which is considered to be ending in about 4 years 8 months) the entire world as we know it is supposed to end...

I wonder what all the Mayans will say when that fails to occur

Nothing.
Like the last ten times the live on earth should end.

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With each crime and every kindness we birth our future.

the entire world as we know it is supposed to end...

That'll happen regardless... I'm just curious to see how accurate the Mayans were... ;)

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It may not be 1984 but George Orwell sure did see the future . . .

the entire world as we know it is supposed to end...

That'll happen regardless... I'm just curious to see how accurate the Mayans were... ;)

You sound depressed Jeffrey, I still have hope in humanity, how ever small it may be.....

I truly doubt the Mayans theory....
They were great astronomers though...

Humans cannot foretell the future no matter how close to the present it is.....
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If this civilization we can't predict the future... And we are vastly superior to the Mayans of there day and age....
So what makes anyone think that they will?....

btw.... Why did they think this world will end?????

Best Regards,
Luke

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- Luke.

I still have hope in humanity, how ever small it may be.....

I'd ask you to share... But like you said, there ain't much left to go around... ;)

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Why did they think this world will end?????

They didn't... But I do...

The Mayans created an incredibly accurate calender, but they forgot to mention why it stops at 12.21.2012...

I have a 'gut feeling', but even so, those feelings have proven to be just as accurate as the Mayan calendar... ;)

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In this context, the wikipedia entry to Maya calendar might be interesting.

[...]
With the development of the place-notational Long Count calendar (believed to have been inherited from other Mesoamerican cultures), the Maya had an elegant system with which events could be recorded in a linear relationship to one another, and also with respect to the calendar ("linear time") itself. In theory, this system could readily be extended to delineate any length of time desired, by simply adding to the number of higher-order place markers used (and thereby generating an ever-increasing sequence of day-multiples, each day in the sequence uniquely identified by its Long Count number). In practice, most Maya Long Count inscriptions confine themselves to noting only the first 5 coefficients in this system (a b'ak'tun-count), since this was more than adequate to express any historical or current date (with an equivalent span of approximately 5125 solar years). Even so, example inscriptions exist which noted or implied lengthier sequences, indicating that the Maya well understood a linear (past-present-future) conception of time.

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The Mesoamerican Long Count calendar forms the basis for a New Age belief, first forecast by José Argüelles, that a cataclysm will take place on or about 21 December 2012, a forecast that mainstream Mayanist scholars consider a mis-interpretation.[...]

And another wiki for the Mesoamerican Long Count Calendar

And here is what seems to be the reason for these silly end-of-world theories:

2012 and the Long Count

According to the Popol Vuh, a book compiling details of creation accounts known to the K'iche' Maya of the Colonial-era highlands, we are living in the fourth world. The Popol Vuh describes the first three creations that the gods failed in making and the creation of the successful fourth world where men were placed. In the Maya Long Count, the previous creation ended at the start of a 13th b'ak'tun.

The previous creation ended on a long count of 12.19.19.17.19. Another 12.19.19.17.19 will occur on December 20, 2012, followed by the start of the thirteenth b'ak'tun, 13.0.0.0.0, on December 21, 2012.

Significance within the New Age movement

Two figures within the New Age, the artist and theorist José Argüelles and the late ethnobotanist and psychonaut Terence McKenna, have publicized theories concerning the significance of the end of the cycle. (They arrived at their conclusions separately from one another.) They have jointly inspired a number of articles and books that this will be the end of this creation, the next pole shift or, as McKenna speculated in his theories, the end of history and events as "novel" as the origin of life on Earth, which we could not possibly imagine. Other, more mundane speculations involve a worldwide catastrophe, such as a pole shift. The idea of the significance of the date has also increasingly passed into popular culture.

As I supposed: on the date 21 Dec 2012, the Mayan calender will just enter a new ... well, millenium is the wrong word; so it's somewhat similar to the Y2K panic...

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I still have hope in humanity, how ever small it may be.....

I'd ask you to share... But like you said, there ain't much left to go around... ;)

Time

it's somewhat similar to the Y2K panic...

You're comparing Mayan wisdom to a computer blunder? ;)

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well I was under the impression not only was there a discrepency in the date but that it wasn't necessarily a cataclismic world ending event but the mark of a "new Age" which could be the begining of a "world enlightenment" or something of that nature...Basically stating something would happen that would bring about a dramatic world change, which could mean really anything...UFO's land, or maybe a World Government or even possibly a Nuclear event devastating the world.... Who knows what is in store...I certainly do not but have been interested in the POSSIBILITIES since I heard about the Calender when I was a small child. Personally (and I do own a replica of it made in the sand through casting) I can't see how it was "decoded" anyhow as it is very strange looking with no numbers or even apparent writing....

1,699 days left...

. . . and counting... ;)

Only another 4 years to go.

Please tell me this will be the last of the "end of the world" predictions.

If the Mayans were still around do you think they would not have revised their calander? (No doubt they would have also added some spin as to why the world did not end...)

Oddly the world as the Mayan's understood it actually died well before this prediction.


Me and my friends will be sitting on the hill with a picnic basket and wait.. yet again...

I suspect what people or cultures mean by "the world" relates only to their own vision or explorations. For the rest of us the world is something different.


Mayan society was never going to last forever. It was self destructive.

It's calandar science though was impressive for it's level of technology and skills.

However: Awe of a culture's skills should not promote belief.



4 years.
Another Apocalypse.
A chance to party.
I'll bring the houmous (humus) and bread.
What will you bring?




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