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Robert Waite Send message Joined: 23 Oct 07 Posts: 2417 Credit: 18,192,122 RAC: 59 |
You're arguing against an ideology cRunchy. If something can't be bought and sold, it has no value. If someone like your friend falls on hard times, it's his own fault. The funny thing is, if your friend was exactly as he is now, same skills, education and abilities, but was fithy rich...those same people who spit on him now would then be licking his boots and telling him how good they taste. No matter what he had been walking in. They see no value in the person, all value is based on what the person has. It's a sad and shallow philosophy created by the corporatists in their efforts to remake citizens of a nation into consumers in a marketplace. Kindness, wisdom and the work ethic mean nothing to these automatons because these qualities cannot be bought and sold. |
BrainSmashR Send message Joined: 7 Apr 02 Posts: 1772 Credit: 384,573 RAC: 0 |
SNIPS Lots more... Doesn't bother me in the least bit. As I indicated earlier, I don't have compassion for those who make life hard on themselves.
Why would I care if you choose to butcher the English language by utilizing slang? I merely pointed out the error. You might be interested to find that even your sweet little askoxford site doesn't include "learnt" in the English dictionary search.
As he has already found out, the hard way I might add, the ability to read is a required skill in today's world. His worth as a human being is quite irrelevant to this fact and was never questioned by me in the first place. |
BrainSmashR Send message Joined: 7 Apr 02 Posts: 1772 Credit: 384,573 RAC: 0 |
You ever met a rich man who couldn't read? You think there might be some sort of correlation between education and income levels? Median Annual Income, by Level of Education, 1990–2004 Isn't it funny how the real world just doesn't seem to operate the way YOU think it should...lol |
Jeffrey Send message Joined: 21 Nov 03 Posts: 4793 Credit: 26,029 RAC: 0 |
You ever met a rich man who couldn't read? YES, I have... And quite a few that couldn't type either! Yet they have jobs, good jobs... Isn't it funny how the real world just doesn't seem to operate the way YOU think it should The 'real world' doesn't operate on 'statistics'... Put down the calculator and open your eyes... ;) (Here is a 'real world' fact for ya: Numbers don't lie, but people do.) It may not be 1984 but George Orwell sure did see the future . . . |
Robert Waite Send message Joined: 23 Oct 07 Posts: 2417 Credit: 18,192,122 RAC: 59 |
While income levels do have a direct link to educational levels, would you not agree that it is so much easier to receive a college education as a rich white male than a homeless brown person? Is the correlation stating that education leads to income or is it more likely that income leads to education? I've met a few rich people. Not many. Funny, but the conversation never got around to whether they can read or not. I venture that the illiteracy rates drop as one's wealth increases but it never reaches zero. Some inbred land baron's son with all the money in the world could inherit the vast amount and never be able to read the will. |
BrainSmashR Send message Joined: 7 Apr 02 Posts: 1772 Credit: 384,573 RAC: 0 |
SNIP... And as an adult, HE neglected to educate himself for 30+ years.
While I agree with the concept, I must point out that I am not a teacher and therefore educating others is NOT my job.
Again, I refer you to the 30+ years as a adult where HE neglected to seek that education.
Apparently not...didn't you indicate he lost his job because he couldn't read the instruction book or the computer screen?
Sad indeed, but 100% his fault AS AN ADULT
His employers?
and you do..
Of course not, however, I noted that the term "learnt" was not listed in the dictionary you quoted. It's a form of Englished utilized in your local...that does not make it proper English.
Big difference between typing skill and improper use of the language.
I would assume everyone here has some level of higher education. However, having a degree is considerably different than being able to utilize the skills you've learned.
Well my birthday was this past friday.
Again, I refer you to the past 30+ years he was considered an adult by basically every standard on the planet.
Yet you fail to comprehend that education is a key aspect of that "better world".
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BrainSmashR Send message Joined: 7 Apr 02 Posts: 1772 Credit: 384,573 RAC: 0 |
Absolutely not. Ever heard of the United Negro College fund? How about financial aid based on income? Two sources specifically geared to the "homeless brown person"
Financial aid is available to all who qualify, Student loans are available to all who seek them. While that bit of propaganda might hold water in Canada (although I doubt it) it certainly DOES NOT in America.
and yet, you seem to have NOT cited one example while I clearly showed that there is a correlation between education and income levels |
cRunchy Send message Joined: 3 Apr 99 Posts: 3555 Credit: 1,920,030 RAC: 3 |
SNIP... I missed it. I'm Sorry. I hope you enjoyed your birthday. I hope the year ahead will be special for you BrainSmashR. cRunchy. . |
Robert Waite Send message Joined: 23 Oct 07 Posts: 2417 Credit: 18,192,122 RAC: 59 |
Of course. How could I have been so naive? That explains why Yale and Harvard are so full of destitute homeless students. I must have been hoodwinked by socialist propaganda once again. Thanks for setting the record straight again in that way only you (and a friend or two) seem to be able to do so well. Snark Snark That's the sound of a non-confrontational laugh through my nose. |
Dr. C.E.T.I. Send message Joined: 29 Feb 00 Posts: 16019 Credit: 794,685 RAC: 0 |
@ cRunchy: true mi friend
@ Tracy - as said in other Threads - Hope ya had a great Birthday Sir! . . . BOINC Wiki . . . Science Status Page . . . |
Robert Waite Send message Joined: 23 Oct 07 Posts: 2417 Credit: 18,192,122 RAC: 59 |
The Dr. can fix anything. |
BrainSmashR Send message Joined: 7 Apr 02 Posts: 1772 Credit: 384,573 RAC: 0 |
Financial aid is available at both of those institutions. In fact, it's my understanding that Harvard is now offering FREE tuition to families with incomes lower than 60k per year...assuming said individual meets the ACADEMIC REQUIREMENTS to attend an Ivy League institution. http://www.hno.harvard.edu/gazette/2007/12.13/99-finaid.html The new initiative is the latest chapter in Harvard’s systematic effort to increase affordability and widen access for qualified students from across the economic spectrum. In the winter of 2004, under the leadership of President Lawrence H. Summers, Harvard transformed the financial aid landscape with its announcement that families with annual incomes below $40,000 would not be expected to pay for their sons or daughters to go to Harvard. The zero-contribution threshold was raised to $60,000 in 2006, with further reductions in parental contributions for families with incomes up to $80,000. Over the past three years, the number of students in these income ranges has increased by 33 percent, representing a quarter of the entering Class of 2011.... ....Currently, two-thirds of Harvard College students receive some form of financial aid, and half receive need-based scholarship aid from Harvard, totaling more than $98 million.
Well it's often been stated that ignorance is bliss....I just didn't realize they enjoyed it as much as you seem to. Snark Snark indeed... |
BrainSmashR Send message Joined: 7 Apr 02 Posts: 1772 Credit: 384,573 RAC: 0 |
Thanx for the birthday wishes everyone... |
Jeffrey Send message Joined: 21 Nov 03 Posts: 4793 Credit: 26,029 RAC: 0 |
While income levels do have a direct link to educational levels, Unfortunately, 'educational levels' do not have a direct link to 'intelligence levels'... ;) (Even a parrot can say what it's taught to say and do what it's taught to do. Yet, the bird is only as wealthy as its master allows.) It may not be 1984 but George Orwell sure did see the future . . . |
John Neale Send message Joined: 16 Mar 00 Posts: 634 Credit: 7,246,513 RAC: 9 |
Why would I care if you choose to butcher the English language by utilizing slang? I merely pointed out the error. You might be interested to find that even your sweet little askoxford site doesn't include "learnt" in the English dictionary search. For someone who recently said "There is a difference between opinions supported by verifiable fact, and opinions based on ... ignorance", your ignorance of non-American English and the contents of the Oxford English Dictionary raises eyebrows. I use the form of English informed by my education system, society and primarly (sic) by my locale. Further reference to a dictionary or two should clear up your apparent confusion between the meaning (in context) of a "local", and that of a "locale". |
Es99 (part ii) Send message Joined: 6 Jul 07 Posts: 291 Credit: 18,010 RAC: 0 |
Ahh..you've heard of the British royal family then? Account frozen... |
BrainSmashR Send message Joined: 7 Apr 02 Posts: 1772 Credit: 384,573 RAC: 0 |
Why would I care if you choose to butcher the English language by utilizing slang? I merely pointed out the error. You might be interested to find that even your sweet little askoxford site doesn't include "learnt" in the English dictionary search. We are all capable of making typo's...I am neither ashamed nor impressed |
Jeffrey Send message Joined: 21 Nov 03 Posts: 4793 Credit: 26,029 RAC: 0 |
We are all capable of making typo's. Can you say: DOUBLE STANDARD... ;) (It's the biggest flaw in your ideology. But at least it's a consistent flaw.) It may not be 1984 but George Orwell sure did see the future . . . |
bobby Send message Joined: 22 Mar 02 Posts: 2866 Credit: 17,789,109 RAC: 3 |
Why would I care if you choose to butcher the English language by utilizing slang? I merely pointed out the error. You might be interested to find that even your sweet little askoxford site doesn't include "learnt" in the English dictionary search. An Englishman's "local" is typically the nearest public house (or bar for those in the US). Was it a typo or were you just making humorous (humourous in the UK) use of a colloquialism? BTW, belated birthday wishes. I think you'll find it's a bit more complicated than that ... |
BrainSmashR Send message Joined: 7 Apr 02 Posts: 1772 Credit: 384,573 RAC: 0 |
Why would I care if you choose to butcher the English language by utilizing slang? I merely pointed out the error. You might be interested to find that even your sweet little askoxford site doesn't include "learnt" in the English dictionary search. Ha...I wish I could claim it was the latter of the two. Thanks for the birthday wishes.... |
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