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Message 663090 - Posted: 20 Oct 2007, 8:35:27 UTC - in response to Message 663088.  

Could this be right? I wasn't aware that munitions could be mounted under the wings of a B-52. Don't they have a bomb bay in the fuselage?

Yes, and yes. The external pylon on the 52H can carry either 9 or 10 weapons.

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Message 663092 - Posted: 20 Oct 2007, 8:42:59 UTC - in response to Message 663088.  
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WASHINGTON – The Air Force is planning to dismiss at least five officers for an incident in which nuclear-tipped missiles were mistakenly loaded on a B-52 bomber and flown across the United States – the worst known violation of nuclear security rules in decades.

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In an embarrassing incident that lawmakers called disturbing, the B-52 mistakenly armed with six nuclear-tipped cruise missiles flew Aug. 30 from Minot Air Force Base, N.D., to Barksdale Air Force Base, La. The missiles were mounted under one of the bomber's wings, and no one noticed for hours.

Could this be right? I wasn't aware that munitions could be mounted under the wings of a B-52. Don't they have a bomb bay in the fuselage?




You can see the handy dandy stand off weapons pylons under the wing between the fuselage and the inboard engines...that's were the external munitions clusters are placed. With the upgraded engines it can carry even more weight which translates into more BOOM BOOM.

And this little puppy on the external pylon was one of the original air launch cruise missles called the Bloodhound with a Megaton warhead, which they could use for extra take off power, then top up the missles fuel while in flight. ...much more BOOM BOOM!
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Message 663095 - Posted: 20 Oct 2007, 8:49:08 UTC - in response to Message 663088.  

WASHINGTON – The Air Force is planning to dismiss at least five officers for an incident in which nuclear-tipped missiles were mistakenly loaded on a B-52 bomber and flown across the United States – the worst known violation of nuclear security rules in decades.

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In an embarrassing incident that lawmakers called disturbing, the B-52 mistakenly armed with six nuclear-tipped cruise missiles flew Aug. 30 from Minot Air Force Base, N.D., to Barksdale Air Force Base, La. The missiles were mounted under one of the bomber's wings, and no one noticed for hours.

Could this be right? I wasn't aware that munitions could be mounted under the wings of a B-52. Don't they have a bomb bay in the fuselage?

Don't they mount space shuttles on top of the huge fortresses? I expect they can carry a humongous payload attached wherever they can bolt on a bracket.


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Message 663098 - Posted: 20 Oct 2007, 8:53:05 UTC - in response to Message 663095.  

Don't they mount space shuttles on top of the huge fortresses? I expect they can carry a humongous payload attached wherever they can bolt on a bracket.

Nah, that's a specially modified 747. Needless to say, it's supposed to be a hog to fly.

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Message 663099 - Posted: 20 Oct 2007, 8:53:31 UTC - in response to Message 663095.  
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WASHINGTON – The Air Force is planning to dismiss at least five officers for an incident in which nuclear-tipped missiles were mistakenly loaded on a B-52 bomber and flown across the United States – the worst known violation of nuclear security rules in decades.

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In an embarrassing incident that lawmakers called disturbing, the B-52 mistakenly armed with six nuclear-tipped cruise missiles flew Aug. 30 from Minot Air Force Base, N.D., to Barksdale Air Force Base, La. The missiles were mounted under one of the bomber's wings, and no one noticed for hours.

Could this be right? I wasn't aware that munitions could be mounted under the wings of a B-52. Don't they have a bomb bay in the fuselage?

Don't they mount space shuttles on top of the huge fortresses? I expect they can carry a humongous payload attached wherever they can bolt on a bracket.

Those are specially modified Boeing 747's...


Edit: Rush you beat me by around 25 seconds...damn.
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Message 663101 - Posted: 20 Oct 2007, 8:55:58 UTC - in response to Message 663099.  

WASHINGTON – The Air Force is planning to dismiss at least five officers for an incident in which nuclear-tipped missiles were mistakenly loaded on a B-52 bomber and flown across the United States – the worst known violation of nuclear security rules in decades.

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In an embarrassing incident that lawmakers called disturbing, the B-52 mistakenly armed with six nuclear-tipped cruise missiles flew Aug. 30 from Minot Air Force Base, N.D., to Barksdale Air Force Base, La. The missiles were mounted under one of the bomber's wings, and no one noticed for hours.

Could this be right? I wasn't aware that munitions could be mounted under the wings of a B-52. Don't they have a bomb bay in the fuselage?

Don't they mount space shuttles on top of the huge fortresses? I expect they can carry a humongous payload attached wherever they can bolt on a bracket.

Those are specially modified Boeing 747's...


Edit: Rush you beat me by around 25 seconds...damn.

So no nukes on top of the B-52's then? ;)


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Message 663102 - Posted: 20 Oct 2007, 8:57:35 UTC - in response to Message 663101.  
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WASHINGTON – The Air Force is planning to dismiss at least five officers for an incident in which nuclear-tipped missiles were mistakenly loaded on a B-52 bomber and flown across the United States – the worst known violation of nuclear security rules in decades.

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In an embarrassing incident that lawmakers called disturbing, the B-52 mistakenly armed with six nuclear-tipped cruise missiles flew Aug. 30 from Minot Air Force Base, N.D., to Barksdale Air Force Base, La. The missiles were mounted under one of the bomber's wings, and no one noticed for hours.

Could this be right? I wasn't aware that munitions could be mounted under the wings of a B-52. Don't they have a bomb bay in the fuselage?

Don't they mount space shuttles on top of the huge fortresses? I expect they can carry a humongous payload attached wherever they can bolt on a bracket.

Those are specially modified Boeing 747's...


Edit: Rush you beat me by around 25 seconds...damn.

So no nukes on top of the B-52's then? ;)

In the fuselage bomb bays or under the wings...no BOOM BOOM topside.
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Message 663103 - Posted: 20 Oct 2007, 8:59:14 UTC - in response to Message 663095.  

WASHINGTON – The Air Force is planning to dismiss at least five officers for an incident in which nuclear-tipped missiles were mistakenly loaded on a B-52 bomber and flown across the United States – the worst known violation of nuclear security rules in decades.

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In an embarrassing incident that lawmakers called disturbing, the B-52 mistakenly armed with six nuclear-tipped cruise missiles flew Aug. 30 from Minot Air Force Base, N.D., to Barksdale Air Force Base, La. The missiles were mounted under one of the bomber's wings, and no one noticed for hours.

Could this be right? I wasn't aware that munitions could be mounted under the wings of a B-52. Don't they have a bomb bay in the fuselage?

Don't they mount space shuttles on top of the huge fortresses? I expect they can carry a humongous payload attached wherever they can bolt on a bracket.


No. Shuttle transports are modified 747s.

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Message 663104 - Posted: 20 Oct 2007, 9:00:11 UTC - in response to Message 663102.  

WASHINGTON – The Air Force is planning to dismiss at least five officers for an incident in which nuclear-tipped missiles were mistakenly loaded on a B-52 bomber and flown across the United States – the worst known violation of nuclear security rules in decades.

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In an embarrassing incident that lawmakers called disturbing, the B-52 mistakenly armed with six nuclear-tipped cruise missiles flew Aug. 30 from Minot Air Force Base, N.D., to Barksdale Air Force Base, La. The missiles were mounted under one of the bomber's wings, and no one noticed for hours.

Could this be right? I wasn't aware that munitions could be mounted under the wings of a B-52. Don't they have a bomb bay in the fuselage?

Don't they mount space shuttles on top of the huge fortresses? I expect they can carry a humongous payload attached wherever they can bolt on a bracket.

Those are specially modified Boeing 747's...


Edit: Rush you beat me by around 25 seconds...damn.

So no nukes on top of the B-52's then? ;)

In the fuselage or under the wings...no BOOM BOOM topside.

No scope for redesign to get the meanest looking B-52's ever ?


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Message 663106 - Posted: 20 Oct 2007, 9:04:20 UTC
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One big bad ass bomber with all the munitions it can carry...the nuclear cruise missles that the one in question was carrying are those things between the inboard and outboard engines. They would have hung from the inboard pylons. If it has to it can carry a total of 22 cruise missles...just four of these planes could devastate the British Isles as an example.
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Message 663107 - Posted: 20 Oct 2007, 9:06:20 UTC

Nah, that's a specially modified 747.

Those are specially modified Boeing 747's...

No. Shuttle transports are modified 747s.

Is there an echo in here? ;)
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Message 663110 - Posted: 20 Oct 2007, 9:20:29 UTC - in response to Message 663106.  



One big bad ass bomber with all the munitions it can carry...the nuclear cruise missles that the one in question was carrying are those things between the inboard and outboard engines. They would have hung from the inboard pylons.

AWESOME!!!


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Message 663127 - Posted: 20 Oct 2007, 10:45:51 UTC - in response to Message 663110.  



One big bad ass bomber with all the munitions it can carry...the nuclear cruise missles that the one in question was carrying are those things between the inboard and outboard engines. They would have hung from the inboard pylons.

AWESOME!!!


Here's a story about the military pilot calling for a priority landing
because his single-engine F16 fighter jet was running a bit ragged.

Air Traffic Control told the fighter jock that he was number two, behind a B52 that had one engine shut down.

"Ahh," the fighter pilot remarked, "The dreaded seven-engine approach."


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Message 663161 - Posted: 20 Oct 2007, 13:25:07 UTC - in response to Message 663127.  



One big bad ass bomber with all the munitions it can carry...the nuclear cruise missles that the one in question was carrying are those things between the inboard and outboard engines. They would have hung from the inboard pylons.

AWESOME!!!


Here's a story about the military pilot calling for a priority landing
because his single-engine F16 fighter jet was running a bit ragged.

Air Traffic Control told the fighter jock that he was number two, behind a B52 that had one engine shut down.

"Ahh," the fighter pilot remarked, "The dreaded seven-engine approach."



LOL Hahahah! That cracks me up.


There's one aspect to this that people are overlooking I think...

Nothing bad happened! Count your blessings!

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Message 663184 - Posted: 20 Oct 2007, 14:58:08 UTC

And here it is in the Australian news:

US admits to nuclear weapons bungle
Article from: Agence France-Presse

By correspondents in Washington

October 20, 2007 06:46am

PROCEDURAL breakdowns, human errors and an erosion in standards led to the unauthorised transfer of nuclear armed cruise missiles aboard a B-52 bomber on August 30, senior air force officials said overnight.
At least four officers have been relieved of command, including the commander of the 5th Bomb Wing at Minot Air Force Base in North Dakota, in the wake of the unprecedented lapse, said Major General Richard Newton.

A review will determine whether further disciplinary action is appropriate for selected individuals, he said.

"A series of procedural breakdowns and human errors led to loading and transportation of weapons, weapons that should not have been moved from Minot Air Force Base, North Dakota to Barksdale Air Force Base, Louisiana," Mr Newton said.

He said there also had been an erosion in adherence to weapons handling standards at both air force bases that had resulted in a lack of attention to detail.

"Nothing like this has ever occurred," he said. "This was a failure to follow procedures, procedures that have proven to be sound.''

"Our extensive six week investigation found that this was an isolated incident and that the weapons never left the custody of airmen, were never unsecured," he said.

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Message 663407 - Posted: 20 Oct 2007, 21:52:34 UTC - in response to Message 663098.  

Don't they mount space shuttles on top of the huge fortresses? I expect they can carry a humongous payload attached wherever they can bolt on a bracket.

Nah, that's a specially modified 747. Needless to say, it's supposed to be a hog to fly.

I hear the opposite about how it flies. The shuttle weighs less than the normal load of passengers, luggage, mail, and other cargo that the 747's normally transport.


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Message 663412 - Posted: 20 Oct 2007, 21:57:12 UTC - in response to Message 663106.  



One big bad ass bomber with all the munitions it can carry...the nuclear cruise missles that the one in question was carrying are those things between the inboard and outboard engines. They would have hung from the inboard pylons. If it has to it can carry a total of 22 cruise missles...just four of these planes could devastate the British Isles as an example.


Awesome. Check out the huge rotary launcher.

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Message 663438 - Posted: 20 Oct 2007, 22:29:05 UTC - in response to Message 663407.  

Don't they mount space shuttles on top of the huge fortresses? I expect they can carry a humongous payload attached wherever they can bolt on a bracket.

Nah, that's a specially modified 747. Needless to say, it's supposed to be a hog to fly.

I hear the opposite about how it flies. The shuttle weighs less than the normal load of passengers, luggage, mail, and other cargo that the 747's normally transport.

It's not the weight, but the aerodynamics...
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