Can you translate that sentence into Arabic?

I said that I would be the 'checker' not the 'translator'... ;)

أنا سأفحص الترجمة

If you could not 'translate' what you say you can 'check' I would not trust you.

To be a 'checker' without the willingness to try and show or prove (or translate) what you think is right or wrong is pretty dishonest.



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What does this sentence mean? (In English..)

أنا سأفحص الترجمة


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What does this sentence mean? (In English..)
أنا سأفحص الترجمة

In English: 'I will examine the translation'... ;)

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What does this sentence mean? (In English..)
أنا سأفحص الترجمة

In English: 'I will examine the translation'... ;)

Be there or be square.

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Archbishop: Some Islamic law needed in U.K. system

By John F. Burns
NEW YORK TIMES NEWS SERVICE

February 8, 2008

LONDON – The Archbishop of Canterbury called yesterday for Britain to adopt aspects of Islamic Shariah law alongside the existing legal system.

His speech set off a storm of opposition among politicians, lawyers and others, including some Muslims.

The archbishop, the Most Rev. Rowan Williams, spiritual leader of the world's Anglicans, said in speech and a BBC radio interview that the introduction of Shariah in family law was “unavoidable.”

Williams said such “constructive accommodation” should not deprive Muslims of their right to take their cases to the existing court system.

The archbishop compared allowing Muslims to take carefully defined matters to their own religious courts to the established practice among Orthodox Jews in Britain of referring religious disputes to rabbinical courts.

Williams noted that the Church of England, formally headed by the monarch, also has its own ecclesiastical courts.

Shariah is drawn from the Koran and the sayings of the Prophet Muhammad. It prescribes religious and secular duties, along with punishments for their breach.

In countries where Islamic militants have gained power, such as Afghanistan under the Taliban, harsh forms of Shariah law have been imposed. These have included stoning to death for adultery and the chopping off of hands for theft, along with severe restraints on women's rights and provisions subjugating them to the will of men.

Much of Shariah law deals with issues such as marriage, divorce and inheritance, and many Muslims in Britain – a small but often isolated minority of 1.5 million in the nation of 60 million – for many years have taken disputes in these areas to Shariah councils in neighborhood mosques.

“Nobody in their right mind would want to see in this country the kind of inhumanity that sometimes appears to be associated with the practice of the law in some Islamic states – the extreme punishments, the attitudes to women as well,” the archbishop, 57, told the BBC.

Williams, an Oxford-educated theologian, was met with immediate repudiation from political and legal leaders, including a spokesman for Prime Minister Gordon Brown.

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Artifacts point to a deity predating Zeus

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Shariah is drawn from the Koran and the sayings of the Prophet Muhammad. It prescribes religious and secular duties, along with punishments for their breach.

Hmm... Being put to death for murder, losing a hand for theft, being castrated for rape, I'd imagine the crime rate would be dramatically reduced... But remember, The Qur'an ONLY applies to willfully submitting muslims:

Qur'an 109 : The Disbelievers

Say : O ye that reject Faith!
I worship not that which ye worship,
Nor will ye worship that which I worship.
And I will not worship that which ye have been wont to worship,
Nor will ye worship that which I worship.
To you be your Way, and to me mine.

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Shariah is drawn from the Koran and the sayings of the Prophet Muhammad. It prescribes religious and secular duties, along with punishments for their breach.

Hmm... Being put to death for murder, losing a hand for theft, being castrated for rape, I'd imagine the crime rate would be dramatically reduced...
... SNIP...

Hundreds of societies over hundreds of thousands of years have had these punishments in one form or another yet we still have murder, theft and rape..

The crime rate in England when we used to hang criminals was essentially no different to when we outlawed state condoned killings / murder.

These punishments have done near nothing to reduce these crimes.

(Sorry if you were being ironic Jeffrey... I just could never imagine condoning rules or laws for killing someone or choping off part of their bodies.)

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Well over eighty replies to this thread. And what do I see. Many if not most with very little RAC's for this project, most with little credit (Cobblestones) for this project, most without a little green star to show monies support for this project, and many over 1000 to 2500 + replies to this project forum. So the support for this project is to show a reply to a question and what else. A place to voice an opinion?

Point being if one is to use the resources of a project let us pay our fair share. For every opinion...xxx number of dollars. My opinion.

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http://boinc.mundayweb.com/teamStats.php?userID=14824

Point being if one is to use the resources of a project let us pay our fair share.

Is this still seti@home, or is it now seti4elites... ;)

(The battle between the rich and the poor continues. All other battles are just smokescreens.)

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Well over eighty replies to this thread. And what do I see. Many if not most with very little RAC's for this project, most with little credit (Cobblestones) for this project, most without a little green star to show monies support for this project, and many over 1000 to 2500 + replies to this project forum. So the support for this project is to show a reply to a question and what else. A place to voice an opinion?

Point being if one is to use the resources of a project let us pay our fair share. For every opinion...xxx number of dollars. My opinion.

You could have attached your viewpoint to almost any thread throughout these SETI boards. Why this thread?

It's true that 'religion', 'politics' and 'personal freedoms' do create the most debate and responses on the internet or in any other form of communication. That's kind of expected but I wouldn't want to tax or charge discussion.

I only have one PC running 24/7 and you have such an enormous RAC compared to mine. (50 times mine.)

To be fair to our fellow humans maybe instead of charging people for "involvement in the forum per-se" we should charge people based upon their ability to contribute resources.

Your ability seems to be 50 times mine (6800/130). I hope you will donate $50 for ever person that can afford to donate $1?

SETI as far as I am concerned is a 'research, experimental and discovery' based project and as such will always rely on the value of 'opinion' to survive (as opposed to 'neccesity' or 'social good'.)

I still think it would be interesting to see how SETI fares should the forums close down.

Not all donations are cash.

DON'T forget that just because someone doesn't have a nice posh green star next to their name it doesn't mean they have never donated 'cash' as there must be some annonymous donors?


If I ever walked into a place of worship and they started to make me feel bad for not giving them cash I'd walk out.

If I ever volunteered for a charity and did my donated physical work and then was targetted by the managers for cash from my pocket because they were failing to raise cash from outside I'd feel abused.

Just to be perverse: 'TV Evangalists' often do charge dollars for opinions and pressure their body of faithful to give more than they should.

Be odd if SETI started to become evangelical! ;)

(Sorry... I am being obtuse.... but I get the feeling just being a volunteer is no longer celebrated here.. :o()

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Well over eighty replies to this thread. And what do I see. Many if not most with very little RAC's for this project, most with little credit (Cobblestones) for this project, most without a little green star to show monies support for this project, and many over 1000 to 2500 + replies to this project forum. So the support for this project is to show a reply to a question and what else. A place to voice an opinion?

Point being if one is to use the resources of a project let us pay our fair share. For every opinion...xxx number of dollars. My opinion.

You could have attached your viewpoint to almost any thread throughout these SETI boards. Why this thread?

It's true that 'religion', 'politics' and 'personal freedoms' do create the most debate and responses on the internet or in any other form of communication. That's kind of expected but I wouldn't want to tax or charge discussion.

I only have one PC running 24/7 and you have such an enormous RAC compared to mine. (50 times mine.)

To be fair to our fellow humans maybe instead of charging people for "involvement in the forum per-se" we should charge people based upon their ability to contribute resources.

Your ability seems to be 50 times mine (6800/130). I hope you will donate $50 for ever person that can afford to donate $1?

SETI as far as I am concerned is a 'research, experimental and discovery' based project and as such will always rely on the value of 'opinion' to survive (as opposed to 'neccesity' or 'social good'.)

I still think it would be interesting to see how SETI fares should the forums close down.

Not all donations are cash.

DON'T forget that just because someone doesn't have a nice posh green star next to their name it doesn't mean they have never donated 'cash' as there must be some annonymous donors?


If I ever walked into a place of worship and they started to make me feel bad for not giving them cash I'd walk out.

If I ever volunteered for a charity and did my donated physical work and then was targetted by the managers for cash from my pocket because they were failing to raise cash from outside I'd feel abused.

Just to be perverse: 'TV Evangalists' often do charge dollars for opinions and pressure their body of faithful to give more than they should.

Be odd if SETI started to become evangelical! ;)

(Sorry... I am being obtuse.... but I get the feeling just being a volunteer is no longer celebrated here.. :o()

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Obtuse......I dunno.......
Nobody's RAC has anything to do with the weight of their opinions here....nor whether they happen to wear a green star.....
Let's not bring it into the discussion if you want to continue this thread.......

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Well over eighty replies to this thread. And what do I see. Many if not most with very little RAC's for this project, most with little credit (Cobblestones) for this project, most without a little green star to show monies support for this project, and many over 1000 to 2500 + replies to this project forum. So the support for this project is to show a reply to a question and what else. A place to voice an opinion?

Point being if one is to use the resources of a project let us pay our fair share. For every opinion...xxx number of dollars. My opinion.

You could have attached your viewpoint to almost any thread throughout these SETI boards. Why this thread?

It's true that 'religion', 'politics' and 'personal freedoms' do create the most debate and responses on the internet or in any other form of communication. That's kind of expected but I wouldn't want to tax or charge discussion.

I only have one PC running 24/7 and you have such an enormous RAC compared to mine. (50 times mine.)

To be fair to our fellow humans maybe instead of charging people for "involvement in the forum per-se" we should charge people based upon their ability to contribute resources.

Your ability seems to be 50 times mine (6800/130). I hope you will donate $50 for ever person that can afford to donate $1?

SETI as far as I am concerned is a 'research, experimental and discovery' based project and as such will always rely on the value of 'opinion' to survive (as opposed to 'neccesity' or 'social good'.)

I still think it would be interesting to see how SETI fares should the forums close down.

Not all donations are cash.

DON'T forget that just because someone doesn't have a nice posh green star next to their name it doesn't mean they have never donated 'cash' as there must be some annonymous donors?


If I ever walked into a place of worship and they started to make me feel bad for not giving them cash I'd walk out.

If I ever volunteered for a charity and did my donated physical work and then was targetted by the managers for cash from my pocket because they were failing to raise cash from outside I'd feel abused.

Just to be perverse: 'TV Evangalists' often do charge dollars for opinions and pressure their body of faithful to give more than they should.

Be odd if SETI started to become evangelical! ;)

(Sorry... I am being obtuse.... but I get the feeling just being a volunteer is no longer celebrated here.. :o()

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Beautifully said cRunchy

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SNIP lots.....

Obtuse......I dunno.......
Nobody's RAC has anything to do with the weight of their opinions here....nor whether they happen to wear a green star.....

Let's not bring it into the discussion if you want to continue this thread.......

Sorry. I was offering alternative methods of valuing peoples contributions relative to the post I responded to. (If you missed it I was actually being a bit facetious... Sorry again...)

I don't think I talked about the "weight of opinion" relative to RAC or cash.

As far as I am concerned as long as people crunch they are valuable contributers.

The fact that SETI adds a 'green star' to cash donors means that it wants to create a visible public distinction.

People with 'green stars' are visibly different. (SETI created that distinction - Not me!)

If you look at those who have been over zealous in telling 'others' (meaning those 'without stars') to donate cash they have all carried the 'star'. (Prove me wrong and I'll apologise.)

I personally don't care about volume of RACs, stars or donations.

I do care however when someone suggests these forums should become 'paid for' or by implication people who do not give cash are of less value.

I'm not sure these last few post belong in the "religious" thread but for me there is something very personal and valuable (and perhaps at times spiritual) in people volunteering and giving of whatever resources they have.

However when we presure each other to give more and more that usually signifies a system trying to control or in polarization, collapse or without growth.


Perhaps I'm just being over sensitive?


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Let's not bring it into the discussion if you want to continue this thread.......

Closing this thread has been the goal ever since it went from being anti-religious to being semi-religious... ;)

(Which is a shame considering that we are living in such Biblical times.)

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Let's not bring it into the discussion if you want to continue this thread.......

Closing this thread has been the goal ever since it went from being anti-religious to being semi-religious... ;)

(Which is a shame considering that we are living in such Biblical times.)

I've always felt this thread suffered from a kind of 'bookishness' and 'formalised religion' that often brought too much emphasis on the Judaic, Christian and Islamic traditions. (Probably due to the mostly white westernised membership.)

Perhaps that is all this thread could ever really achieve?

I'm not sure however that just because a 'religious thread' does not 'quote scripture' it is any less religious or spiritual?

After all we all have our own paths to follow and in this we are alone.

I suspect this thread isn't under threat. (Though our individual posts might be if well out of order.)

I'm not sure who wants to see this thread closed?

It's a great place for both the pro- and anti- religious to expouse their beliefs by rote...

... but then there is every one else!


(PS: What are "Biblical times" Jeffrey? Should I be scared? ;)

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As with any topic in the Political Forum, if this thread stays on topic and/or doesn't delve into personal insults, then closure is not an issue unless the thread owner wants to start [12].

I also agree-I'd like to know how we are in such "biblical times"?

I have grown up Baptist (not Southern) but have experienced a wide range of religions. I did a "sabbatical" of sorts in my 20's after college. We had an abusive pastor at our home church, and after punching him out one day for insulting my mother, mom and I left the church. Yes I punched a priest :)

I wandered....attended Episcopal services at my college alma mater, attended temple service with some Jewish friends and even hit some Catholic services. Oh, I also attended Mosque a few times too and studied some Wicca religious ideals.

Believe it's left me pretty well-rounded.

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PS: What are "Biblical times" Jeffrey?

Matthew 16:3
Can ye not discern the signs of the times?

The correct answer is: Some people can, and some people can't... ;)

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Psalms 78:1-7
Give ear, O my people, to my law: incline your ears to the words of my mouth. I will open my mouth in a parable: I will utter dark sayings of old: Which we have heard and known, and our fathers have told us. We will not hide them from their children, shewing to the generation to come the praises of the Lord, and his strength, and his wonderful works that he hath done. For he established a testimony in Jacob, and appointed a law in Israel, which he commanded our fathers, that they should make them known to their children: That the generation to come might know them, even the children which should be born; who should arise and declare them to their children: That they might set their hope in God, and not forget the works of God, but keep his commandments:

Who broke the chain? ;)

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PS: What are "Biblical times" Jeffrey?

Matthew 16:3
Can ye not discern the signs of the times?

The correct answer is: Some people can, and some people can't... ;)

I asked you some time ago not to quote the bible at me. (I wasn't being disrespectfull. I just prefer your personal thoughts <however informed>.)

I take it you are suggesting you can discern 'biblical times' and I can not.

Let me ask you another question then: When did these "biblical times" start (which year?)?

Are you willing to tell me what "biblical times" are/mean/represent in a way I can understand?

Why not share?

(One of the reasons this thread does annoy me is because people love their quotes so much they use them as a way of trying to beguile or hide their knowledge from others. Grrrrrrrrrrrrr.....)

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(One of the reasons this thread does annoy me is because people love their quotes so much they use them as a way of trying to beguile or hide their knowledge from others. Grrrrrrrrrrrrr.....)

Conversely I could say, this thread annoys me because I feel as though I am talking to a brick wall...

I'm not trying to beguile or hide anything, but I've come to realize that only God can open the eyes of disbelievers... I'm not wrong, there are many who have the same knowledge as I do... However, It was foolish of me to try and share it with others... Only God is qualified to teach the things of God... I, of all people, should've known better... ;)

(But you are right, I do luv my Bible-bits more than life itself. I just wish that I had someone to share them with.)

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