Hi - Greetings - Good Morning,

I had WUs for 3 projects running.
About 8 hours ago, I noticed that SETI had progressed to over 60% complete. This morning, the same wu (I had set no new tasks) was at 14%.
(( I *assume* it is the same wu. Only had 1 seti wu...
and "won'tget new tasks" active.

Maybe it lost a checkpoint?

I dug up the usual suspects - read logs and here is what I found:

1) Boinc Gui message display
( aka c/Program Files/BOINC/stdoutdae.txt):
No errors. Just the usual stuff. here is a sample:
9/18/2007 6:04:03 AM|SETI@home|Restarting task 30ja07aa.26566.17659.9.5.146_1 using setiathome_enhanced version 527
9/18/2007 7:04:04 AM|World Community Grid|Restarting task faah2328_ZINC03845141_xmd01340_01_1 using faah version 541
9/18/2007 8:11:37 AM|SETI@home|Restarting task 30ja07aa.26566.17659.9.5.146_1 using setiathome_enhanced version 527
9/18/2007 8:48:59 AM||Resuming network activity

2) c/Program Files/BOINC/stdoutgui.txt
No entries for over 24 hours.

3) client_state.xml ( just a portion)

<active_task>
<project_master_url>http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/</project_master_url>
<result_name>30ja07aa.26566.17659.9.5.146_1</result_name>
<app_version_num>527</app_version_num>
<slot>1</slot>
<checkpoint_cpu_time>32327.654886</checkpoint_cpu_time>
<fraction_done>0.146235</fraction_done>
<current_cpu_time>32327.654886</current_cpu_time>
<swap_size>42094592.000000</swap_size>
<working_set_size>28626944.000000</working_set_size>
<working_set_size_smoothed>28626944.000000</working_set_size_smoothed>
<page_fault_rate>0.000000</page_fault_rate>
</active_task>


4) client_state_prev.xml
((( wasn't early enough - still shows reduced % )))
<active_task>
<project_master_url>http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/</project_master_url>
<result_name>30ja07aa.26566.17659.9.5.146_1</result_name>
<app_version_num>527</app_version_num>
<slot>1</slot>
<checkpoint_cpu_time>32327.654886</checkpoint_cpu_time>
<fraction_done>0.146235</fraction_done>
<current_cpu_time>32327.654886</current_cpu_time>
<swap_size>42094592.000000</swap_size>
<working_set_size>28626944.000000</working_set_size>
<working_set_size_smoothed>28626944.000000</working_set_size_smoothed>
<page_fault_rate>0.000000</page_fault_rate>
</active_task>



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5) time stamps for the above 2 files
Sep 18 09:53 client_state.xml
Sep 18 09:51 client_state_prev.xml

6) Looking into Program Files/BOINC/slots/1
stderr.txt ((Ah-HAH!! data starts over! ))

setiathome_enhanced 5.27 DevC++/MinGW

Work Unit Info:
...............
WU true angle range is : 0.438960
Optimal function choices:
-----------------------------------------------------
name
-----------------------------------------------------
v_BaseLineSmooth (no other)
v_vGetPowerSpectrumUnrolled2 0.00180 0.00000
sse2_ChirpData_ak 0.09318 0.00000
v_vTranspose4x8ntw 0.03165 0.00000
AK SSE folding 0.00372 0.00000
Restarted at 7.05 percent.
Restarted at 14.30 percent.
Restarted at 21.21 percent.
Restarted at 26.69 percent.
Restarted at 33.63 percent.
Restarted at 73.63 percent.
Restarted at 82.18 percent.
setiathome_enhanced 5.27 DevC++/MinGW

Work Unit Info:
...............
WU true angle range is : 0.438960
Optimal function choices:
-----------------------------------------------------
name
-----------------------------------------------------
v_BaseLineSmooth (no other)
v_vGetPowerSpectrumUnrolled 0.00180 0.00000
sse2_ChirpData_ak 0.05181 0.00000
v_vTranspose4x8ntw 0.02681 0.00000
AK SSE folding 0.00360 0.00000
Restarted at 7.40 percent.


-------------------------
7) Time stamps for files in slot 1
Sep 11 22:38 ..
Sep 17 05:28 work_unit.sah
Sep 17 05:28 setiathome_5.27_windows_intelx86.exe
Sep 17 05:28 setiathome-5.27_README
Sep 17 05:28 setiathome-5.27_COPYRIGHT
Sep 17 05:28 setiathome-5.27_COPYING
Sep 17 05:28 setiathome-5.27_AUTHORS
Sep 17 05:28 seti_logo
Sep 17 05:28 result.sah
Sep 17 05:28 libfftw3f-3-1-1a_upx.dll
Sep 17 05:28 .
Sep 18 08:11 init_data.xml
Sep 18 08:11 wisdom.sah
Sep 18 09:11 stderr.txt
Sep 18 09:11 state.sah

=====================
=====================
Environment info
Boinc version: 5.10.20
- what Boinc sees of the env.:
9/17/2007 4:13:43 AM||Libraries: libcurl/7.16.4 OpenSSL/0.9.8e zlib/1.2.3
9/17/2007 4:13:43 AM||Data directory: C:\\Program Files\\BOINC
9/17/2007 4:13:44 AM||Processor: 1 GenuineIntel Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 Mobile CPU 1.70GHz [x86 Family 15 Model 2 Stepping 4]
9/17/2007 4:13:44 AM||Processor features: fpu tsc sse mmx
9/17/2007 4:13:44 AM||OS: Microsoft Windows 2000: Professional Edition, Service Pack 4, (05.00.2195.00)



Whew! Probably too much data.. Sorry.
But - any ideas?


T H A N K Y O U!
Jay
(( PS
I use cywin to get data without locking files.))

No New Tasks is per project. Did you set NNT for S@H, or did you assume it was for the machine as a whole?

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BOINC WIKI

No New Tasks is per project. Did you set NNT for S@H, or did you assume it was for the machine as a whole?

Greetings.
I set no new tasks for every task - including seti.
(I usually run only one or two project at a time -
to give faster response times. )
The purpose was to see if the WU would finish without possible interference from other projects...


UPDATE:
On the second pass, the WU completed, was uploaded and ack'ed OK.
So, this is not recurring - Unless its noticed by someone else....) :-)

My thanks to the admins and crunchers reading the posts and giving their time and efforts providing answers per gratis.

Thanks, again,
Jay

No New Tasks is per project. Did you set NNT for S@H, or did you assume it was for the machine as a whole?

Greetings.
I set no new tasks for every task - including seti.
(I usually run only one or two project at a time -
to give faster response times. )
The purpose was to see if the WU would finish without possible interference from other projects...


UPDATE:
On the second pass, the WU completed, was uploaded and ack'ed OK.
So, this is not recurring - Unless its noticed by someone else....) :-)

My thanks to the admins and crunchers reading the posts and giving their time and efforts providing answers per gratis.

Thanks, again,
Jay

I hate intermittent problems.

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I have the same problem except mine does not ge that far.On bionic 5.10.20 I get maybe to 12 percent or less and then it resets back to 0%. the ugly truth is i have been reading a lot of post everywhere for this problem and they all have one thing in common which is either a hyperthreading supported CPU or a duel Core cpu. This suggest that bonic has poor or no real support for these types of CPU's and it is something that needs to be fixed. jay_e I dont have the mobile version of the CPU but its the same family as yours [x86 Family 15 Model 2 Stepping 4]which means its a pentium 4 HT (hyperthreading) northwood core hence the family 15 model 2. The only difference is the stepping I also have windows xp Profesional sp2 which means this problem is not OS dependent. Anyone that has this problem please reported to the developers of bionic I will do the same as it will not be fixed until enough of us complain. However for those of us who have XP try this WindowsXP-KB896256-v3-x86-ENU if you can find it while it does not solve this problem it may help in other ways as xp was not originaly writen to take advantage of HT or duel core procesors but it fixes load balancing isues and is very usefull for some games as well.

9/20/2007 9:46:16 AM||Starting BOINC client version 5.10.20 for windows_intelx86
9/20/2007 9:46:16 AM||log flags: task, file_xfer, sched_ops
9/20/2007 9:46:16 AM||Libraries: libcurl/7.16.4 OpenSSL/0.9.8e zlib/1.2.3
9/20/2007 9:46:16 AM||Data directory: C:\\Program Files\\BOINC
9/20/2007 9:46:16 AM||Processor: 2 GenuineIntel Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.00GHz [x86 Family 15 Model 2 Stepping 9]
9/20/2007 9:46:16 AM||Processor features: fpu tsc sse sse2 mmx
9/20/2007 9:46:16 AM||OS: Microsoft Windows XP: Professional Edition, Service Pack 2, (05.01.2600.00)
9/20/2007 9:46:16 AM||Memory: 510.73 MB physical, 1.72 GB virtual
9/20/2007 9:46:16 AM||Disk: 279.47 GB total, 57.35 GB free
9/20/2007 9:46:16 AM||Local time is UTC -5 hours
9/20/2007 9:46:17 AM|SETI@home|URL: http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/; Computer ID: 3807481; location: (none); project prefs: default
9/20/2007 9:46:17 AM||General prefs: from SETI@home (last modified 2007-09-16 05:14:57)
9/20/2007 9:46:17 AM||Host location: none
9/20/2007 9:46:17 AM||General prefs: using your defaults
9/20/2007 9:46:17 AM||Preferences limit memory usage when active to 127.68MB
9/20/2007 9:46:17 AM||Preferences limit memory usage when idle to 153.22MB
9/20/2007 9:46:17 AM||Preferences limit disk usage to 0.93GB
9/20/2007 9:46:48 AM|SETI@home|Restarting task 29ja07ac.2466.17250.4.5.121_3 using setiathome_enhanced version 527
9/20/2007 9:49:48 AM|SETI@home|Sending scheduler request: Requested by user
9/20/2007 9:49:48 AM|SETI@home|(not requesting new work or reporting completed tasks)
9/20/2007 9:49:53 AM|SETI@home|Scheduler RPC succeeded [server version 511]
9/20/2007 9:49:53 AM|SETI@home|Deferring communication for 11 sec
9/20/2007 9:49:53 AM|SETI@home|Reason: requested by project
9/20/2007 9:53:04 AM|SETI@home|Sending scheduler request: Requested by user
9/20/2007 9:53:04 AM|SETI@home|(not requesting new work or reporting completed tasks)
9/20/2007 9:53:09 AM|SETI@home|Scheduler RPC succeeded [server version 511]
9/20/2007 9:53:09 AM||General prefs: from SETI@home (last modified 2007-09-20 09:52:07)
9/20/2007 9:53:09 AM||Host location: none
9/20/2007 9:53:09 AM||General prefs: using your defaults
9/20/2007 9:53:09 AM||Preferences limit memory usage when active to 153.22MB
9/20/2007 9:53:09 AM||Preferences limit memory usage when idle to 153.22MB
9/20/2007 9:53:09 AM||Preferences limit disk usage to 0.93GB
9/20/2007 9:53:09 AM|SETI@home|Deferring communication for 11 sec
9/20/2007 9:53:09 AM|SETI@home|Reason: requested by project
9/20/2007 9:53:09 AM|SETI@home|Restarting task 29ja07ad.13825.89951.9.5.141_2 using setiathome_enhanced version 527
9/20/2007 11:35:25 AM|SETI@home|Restarting task 29ja07ad.13825.89951.9.5.141_2 using setiathome_enhanced version 527
9/20/2007 11:42:47 AM|SETI@home|Restarting task 29ja07ac.2466.17250.4.5.121_3 using setiathome_enhanced version 527
9/20/2007 12:18:13 PM|SETI@home|Restarting task 29ja07ac.2466.17250.4.5.121_3 using setiathome_enhanced version 527
9/20/2007 12:46:30 PM|SETI@home|Restarting task 29ja07ad.13825.89951.9.5.141_2 using setiathome_enhanced version 527
9/20/2007 12:56:09 PM|SETI@home|Restarting task 29ja07ad.13825.89951.9.5.141_2 using setiathome_enhanced version 527
9/20/2007 1:23:55 PM|SETI@home|Restarting task 29ja07ad.13825.89951.9.5.141_2 using setiathome_enhanced version 527
9/20/2007 2:13:47 PM|SETI@home|Restarting task 29ja07ad.13825.89951.9.5.141_2 using setiathome_enhanced version 527
9/20/2007 2:21:13 PM|SETI@home|Restarting task 29ja07ac.2466.17250.4.5.121_3 using setiathome_enhanced version 527
9/20/2007 3:05:35 PM|SETI@home|Restarting task 29ja07ac.2466.17250.4.5.121_3 using setiathome_enhanced version 527
9/20/2007 4:05:36 PM|SETI@home|Restarting task 29ja07ac.2466.17250.4.5.121_3 using setiathome_enhanced version 527
9/20/2007 4:16:46 PM|SETI@home|Restarting task 29ja07ac.2466.17250.4.5.121_3 using setiathome_enhanced version 527
9/20/2007 4:32:26 PM|SETI@home|Restarting task 29ja07ad.13825.89951.9.5.141_2 using setiathome_enhanced version 527
9/20/2007 4:39:51 PM|SETI@home|Sending scheduler request: Requested by user
9/20/2007 4:39:51 PM|SETI@home|(not requesting new work or reporting completed tasks)
9/20/2007 4:39:56 PM|SETI@home|Scheduler RPC succeeded [server version 511]
9/20/2007 4:39:56 PM|SETI@home|Deferring communication for 11 sec
9/20/2007 4:39:56 PM|SETI@home|Reason: requested by project
9/20/2007 4:48:06 PM|SETI@home|Restarting task 29ja07ac.2466.17250.4.5.121_3 using setiathome_enhanced version 527
9/20/2007 5:25:40 PM|SETI@home|Restarting task 29ja07ac.2466.17250.4.5.121_3 using setiathome_enhanced version 527
9/20/2007 5:49:11 PM|SETI@home|Restarting task 29ja07ad.13825.89951.9.5.141_2 using setiathome_enhanced version 527

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I have the same problem except mine does not ge that far.On bionic 5.10.20 I get maybe to 12 percent or less and then it resets back to 0%.

Hi OmegaDVD,

this could be a problem with your maximum disk/memory usage allowed for BOINC.

9/20/2007 9:53:09 AM||Preferences limit memory usage when active to 153.22MB
9/20/2007 9:53:09 AM||Preferences limit memory usage when idle to 153.22MB
9/20/2007 9:53:09 AM||Preferences limit disk usage to 0.93GB

These setting seems a little tight for BOINC (on a 512 MB System, that is abount 25-30 %). I'm not sure if the memory usage limitation includes the whole memory used by all programs (and the OS) or only the memory used by BOINC (if it is the whole used memory, this values probably must be raised). Looking at one of your Results, I found this in stderr.out:

<core_client_version>5.10.20</core_client_version>
<![CDATA[
<message>
Maximum memory exceeded
</message>
]]>

I would recommend to reset your memory memory preferences back to 75% (when in use) resp. 90% (when idle), unless you have a reason not to do so. Also your Disk settings may be a little tight, surely be worth to check them too.

HTH
Andy

Jakob Creutzfeld and to anyone else who may find it usefull this is not related to a memory limit problem as when the memory limit has been reached all it does is auto suspend and the following meaaaage in the status appears "Waiting for memory" it does not or is not supposed to restart that task to 0% or download a new task first things first however. The memory limit is boinic alone if you have win xp or higher look at you task manager when its running you may need to activate the following mem usage, peak memusage, and vmem useage. Secound if you read the entire thread the guy who started it had the same problem with the same cpu also there are other threads here and over the net with the same thing please also read this tread.

http://setiweb.ssl.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=40117

While I did not have the message timeouts however he even had yet again the very same CPU (x86 Family 15 Model 2 Pentium 4 HT Northwood core) and also this very same problem along with the timeouts on top of that and everyone that replyed asked is it a hyperthreading cpu or a duel core cpu. I myself managed to fix my same problem simply by suspending the secound task as bionic starts more than one at a time. I asssume it thinks that these are 2 completly separate CPU's as for duel core there maybe other issues due to multiple cores on the same die and due to some shared resources and possible other things I have not thought of after suspending the 2nd task the one remaining hit 30% and has kept going ever sense.

Before anyone will say is there something wrong with your computer my answer is no why you ask well I run just about every diag you can think of often why because this is my professsional prduction system it is my businessss computer.

(Here is just a few test I run often with all test selected)
syssoft sandra =ok
Prime95 48Hour test =ok
memtest86 48Hour test=ok
pcmark =ok
aquamark =ok

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While I did not have the message timeouts however he even had yet again the very same CPU (x86 Family 15 Model 2 Pentium 4 HT Northwood core) and also this very same problem along with the timeouts on top of that and everyone that replyed asked is it a hyperthreading cpu or a duel core cpu. I myself managed to fix my same problem simply by suspending the secound task as bionic starts more than one at a time. I asssume it thinks that these are 2 completly separate CPU's as for duel core there maybe other issues due to multiple cores on the same die and due to some shared resources and possible other things I have not thought of after suspending the 2nd task the one remaining hit 30% and has kept going ever sense.

I don't think it's a HT or Dual Core issue, since BOINC doesn't care which is which (BOINC simply asks the OS how many CPUs are installed [and Windows treats HT, dual core and dual socket systems all the same] and then launches a science app for every CPU in the system up to the user's preference).

I have three Pentium 4 HTs and one Pentium D, one Core 2 Duo and two Athlon 64 X2 CPUs and none of them exhibit this problem. If BOINC inded didn't support HT or dual core CPUs properly, then logically it would manifest itself on my systems as well.

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Have we found a fix yet? Same problem.. constantly restarting... My C2D E6850 does not exibit the same problem.. I am only working on Seti.. no other projects.

C2Q 6600 / 2GB RAM Client: 5.10.20

Please help..


10/9/2007 3:48:22 PM|SETI@home|Restarting task 07mr07am.7244.10297.16.6.123_0 using setiathome_enhanced version 527
10/9/2007 3:51:55 PM|SETI@home|Restarting task 08mr07aa.8174.13160.3.6.166_1 using setiathome_enhanced version 527
10/9/2007 3:59:00 PM|SETI@home|Restarting task 08mr07aa.12092.3344.5.6.139_1 using setiathome_enhanced version 527
10/9/2007 4:00:59 PM|SETI@home|Restarting task 08mr07aa.8174.13160.3.6.166_1 using setiathome_enhanced version 527
10/9/2007 4:10:34 PM|SETI@home|Restarting task 08mr07aa.8174.13160.3.6.166_1 using setiathome_enhanced version 527
10/9/2007 4:15:11 PM|SETI@home|Restarting task 08mr07aa.12092.3344.5.6.139_1 using setiathome_enhanced version 527
10/9/2007 4:21:13 PM|SETI@home|Restarting task 08mr07aa.12092.3344.5.6.139_1 using setiathome_enhanced version 527
10/9/2007 4:23:41 PM|SETI@home|Restarting task 07mr07am.7244.10297.16.6.123_0 using setiathome_enhanced version 527
10/9/2007 4:34:46 PM|SETI@home|Restarting task 08mr07aa.12092.3344.5.6.151_1 using setiathome_enhanced version 527
10/9/2007 4:44:51 PM|SETI@home|Restarting task 07mr07am.7244.10297.16.6.123_0 using setiathome_enhanced version 527
10/9/2007 4:44:58 PM|SETI@home|Restarting task 08mr07aa.12092.3344.5.6.139_1 using setiathome_enhanced version 527
10/9/2007 4:51:21 PM|SETI@home|Restarting task 08mr07aa.12092.3344.5.6.151_1 using setiathome_enhanced version 527
10/9/2007 4:51:56 PM|SETI@home|Restarting task 08mr07aa.8174.13160.3.6.166_1 using setiathome_enhanced version 527
10/9/2007 4:55:48 PM||General prefs: from SETI@home (last modified 2007-10-06 16:26:55)
10/9/2007 4:55:48 PM||Host location: home
10/9/2007 4:55:48 PM||General prefs: no separate prefs for home; using your defaults
10/9/2007 4:55:48 PM||Preferences limit memory usage when active to 1023.55MB
10/9/2007 4:55:48 PM||Preferences limit memory usage when idle to 1842.39MB
10/9/2007 4:55:48 PM||Preferences limit disk usage to 4.66GB
10/9/2007 4:56:15 PM|SETI@home|Sending scheduler request: Requested by user
10/9/2007 4:56:15 PM|SETI@home|(not requesting new work or reporting completed tasks)
10/9/2007 4:56:21 PM|SETI@home|Scheduler RPC succeeded [server version 511]
10/9/2007 4:56:21 PM|SETI@home|Deferring communication for 11 sec
10/9/2007 4:56:21 PM|SETI@home|Reason: requested by project
10/9/2007 4:56:54 PM||General prefs: from SETI@home (last modified 2007-10-06 16:26:55)
10/9/2007 4:56:54 PM||Host location: home
10/9/2007 4:56:54 PM||General prefs: no separate prefs for home; using your defaults
10/9/2007 4:56:54 PM||Reading preferences override file
10/9/2007 4:56:54 PM||Preferences limit memory usage when active to 1023.55MB
10/9/2007 4:56:54 PM||Preferences limit memory usage when idle to 1842.39MB
10/9/2007 4:56:54 PM||Preferences limit disk usage to 4.66GB
10/9/2007 5:03:12 PM|SETI@home|Restarting task 08mr07aa.12092.3344.5.6.139_1 using setiathome_enhanced version 527
10/9/2007 5:07:06 PM|SETI@home|Restarting task 08mr07aa.8174.13160.3.6.166_1 using setiathome_enhanced version 527
10/9/2007 5:11:36 PM|SETI@home|Restarting task 08mr07aa.12092.3344.5.6.151_1 using setiathome_enhanced version 527
10/9/2007 5:12:46 PM|SETI@home|Restarting task 08mr07aa.12092.3344.5.6.139_1 using setiathome_enhanced version 527
10/9/2007 5:16:10 PM|SETI@home|Restarting task 08mr07aa.12092.3344.5.6.151_1 using setiathome_enhanced version 527
10/9/2007 5:18:18 PM|SETI@home|Restarting task 08mr07aa.12092.3344.5.6.139_1 using setiathome_enhanced version 527
10/9/2007 5:25:45 PM|SETI@home|Restarting task 08mr07aa.8174.13160.3.6.166_1 using setiathome_enhanced version 527
10/9/2007 5:32:21 PM|SETI@home|Restarting task 07mr07am.7244.10297.16.6.123_0 using setiathome_enhanced version 527
10/9/2007 5:34:49 PM|SETI@home|Restarting task 08mr07aa.12092.3344.5.6.151_1 using setiathome_enhanced version 527
10/9/2007 5:39:20 PM|SETI@home|Restarting task 08mr07aa.8174.13160.3.6.166_1 using setiathome_enhanced version 527
10/9/2007 5:43:28 PM|SETI@home|Restarting task 08mr07aa.12092.3344.5.6.139_1 using setiathome_enhanced version 527
10/9/2007 5:47:23 PM|SETI@home|Restarting task 08mr07aa.12092.3344.5.6.151_1 using setiathome_enhanced version 527
10/9/2007 5:47:30 PM|SETI@home|Restarting task 08mr07aa.12092.3344.5.6.139_1 using setiathome_enhanced version 527

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"Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds." -Albert Einstein

Have we found a fix yet? Same problem.. constantly restarting... My C2D E6850 does not exibit the same problem.. I am only working on Seti.. no other projects.

C2Q 6600 / 2GB RAM Client: 5.10.20

Please help..


10/9/2007 3:48:22 PM|SETI@home|Restarting task 07mr07am.7244.10297.16.6.123_0 using setiathome_enhanced version 527
10/9/2007 3:51:55 PM|SETI@home|Restarting task 08mr07aa.8174.13160.3.6.166_1 using setiathome_enhanced version 527
10/9/2007 3:59:00 PM|SETI@home|Restarting task 08mr07aa.12092.3344.5.6.139_1 using setiathome_enhanced version 527
10/9/2007 4:00:59 PM|SETI@home|Restarting task 08mr07aa.8174.13160.3.6.166_1 using setiathome_enhanced version 527
10/9/2007 4:10:34 PM|SETI@home|Restarting task 08mr07aa.8174.13160.3.6.166_1 using setiathome_enhanced version 527
10/9/2007 4:15:11 PM|SETI@home|Restarting task 08mr07aa.12092.3344.5.6.139_1 using setiathome_enhanced version 527
10/9/2007 4:21:13 PM|SETI@home|Restarting task 08mr07aa.12092.3344.5.6.139_1 using setiathome_enhanced version 527
10/9/2007 4:23:41 PM|SETI@home|Restarting task 07mr07am.7244.10297.16.6.123_0 using setiathome_enhanced version 527
10/9/2007 4:34:46 PM|SETI@home|Restarting task 08mr07aa.12092.3344.5.6.151_1 using setiathome_enhanced version 527
10/9/2007 4:44:51 PM|SETI@home|Restarting task 07mr07am.7244.10297.16.6.123_0 using setiathome_enhanced version 527
10/9/2007 4:44:58 PM|SETI@home|Restarting task 08mr07aa.12092.3344.5.6.139_1 using setiathome_enhanced version 527
10/9/2007 4:51:21 PM|SETI@home|Restarting task 08mr07aa.12092.3344.5.6.151_1 using setiathome_enhanced version 527
10/9/2007 4:51:56 PM|SETI@home|Restarting task 08mr07aa.8174.13160.3.6.166_1 using setiathome_enhanced version 527
10/9/2007 4:55:48 PM||General prefs: from SETI@home (last modified 2007-10-06 16:26:55)
10/9/2007 4:55:48 PM||Host location: home
10/9/2007 4:55:48 PM||General prefs: no separate prefs for home; using your defaults
10/9/2007 4:55:48 PM||Preferences limit memory usage when active to 1023.55MB
10/9/2007 4:55:48 PM||Preferences limit memory usage when idle to 1842.39MB
10/9/2007 4:55:48 PM||Preferences limit disk usage to 4.66GB
10/9/2007 4:56:15 PM|SETI@home|Sending scheduler request: Requested by user
10/9/2007 4:56:15 PM|SETI@home|(not requesting new work or reporting completed tasks)
10/9/2007 4:56:21 PM|SETI@home|Scheduler RPC succeeded [server version 511]
10/9/2007 4:56:21 PM|SETI@home|Deferring communication for 11 sec
10/9/2007 4:56:21 PM|SETI@home|Reason: requested by project
10/9/2007 4:56:54 PM||General prefs: from SETI@home (last modified 2007-10-06 16:26:55)
10/9/2007 4:56:54 PM||Host location: home
10/9/2007 4:56:54 PM||General prefs: no separate prefs for home; using your defaults
10/9/2007 4:56:54 PM||Reading preferences override file
10/9/2007 4:56:54 PM||Preferences limit memory usage when active to 1023.55MB
10/9/2007 4:56:54 PM||Preferences limit memory usage when idle to 1842.39MB
10/9/2007 4:56:54 PM||Preferences limit disk usage to 4.66GB
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Could you create a cc_config.xml file. Instructions are here.. Please include the <task>, <task_debug>, <file_xfer>, <sched_ops>, <cpu_sched>, and <sched_op_debug> flags. You will have to load cc_config after you create it. This can be done either by restarting BOINC, or from the Advanced View -> Advanced menu -> load cc_config (I have never actually tested the second). You should get a great deal more information, and maybe we can figure out what is happening.

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Thanks, I will try to figure that out asap..

OK.. I have the config file loaded and collecting data. I reset the CPU throttle to 100% so that I could avoid a huge log file with the constant stopping and starting. If the issues go away then I suppose that was the problem. I certainly hope not.. Anyways, I will post the messages soon.

Thanks for the help.

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"Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds." -Albert Einstein

Here is the first bit...





10/9/2007 9:28:34 PM|SETI@home|[cpu_sched] Preempting 08mr07aa.8174.13160.3.6.166_1 (left in memory)
10/9/2007 9:28:34 PM|SETI@home|[cpu_sched] Preempting 07mr07am.7244.10297.16.6.123_0 (left in memory)
10/9/2007 9:28:34 PM|SETI@home|[cpu_sched] Preempting 08mr07aa.12092.3344.5.6.139_1 (left in memory)
10/9/2007 9:28:34 PM|SETI@home|[cpu_sched] Preempting 08mr07aa.12092.3344.5.6.151_1 (left in memory)
10/9/2007 9:28:35 PM||[cpu_sched] Resuming - CPU throttle
10/9/2007 9:28:35 PM|SETI@home|[cpu_sched] Resuming 08mr07aa.8174.13160.3.6.166_1
10/9/2007 9:28:35 PM|SETI@home|[cpu_sched] Resuming 07mr07am.7244.10297.16.6.123_0
10/9/2007 9:28:35 PM|SETI@home|[cpu_sched] Resuming 08mr07aa.12092.3344.5.6.139_1
10/9/2007 9:28:35 PM|SETI@home|[cpu_sched] Resuming 08mr07aa.12092.3344.5.6.151_1
10/9/2007 9:28:36 PM||[cpu_sched] Suspending - CPU throttle
10/9/2007 9:28:36 PM|SETI@home|[cpu_sched] Preempting 08mr07aa.8174.13160.3.6.166_1 (left in memory)
10/9/2007 9:28:36 PM|SETI@home|[cpu_sched] Preempting 07mr07am.7244.10297.16.6.123_0 (left in memory)
10/9/2007 9:28:36 PM|SETI@home|[cpu_sched] Preempting 08mr07aa.12092.3344.5.6.139_1 (left in memory)
10/9/2007 9:28:36 PM|SETI@home|[cpu_sched] Preempting 08mr07aa.12092.3344.5.6.151_1 (left in memory)
10/9/2007 9:28:37 PM||General prefs: from SETI@home (last modified 2007-10-09 19:53:31)
10/9/2007 9:28:37 PM||Host location: home
10/9/2007 9:28:37 PM||General prefs: no separate prefs for home; using your defaults
10/9/2007 9:28:37 PM||Reading preferences override file
10/9/2007 9:28:37 PM||Preferences limit memory usage when active to 1023.55MB
10/9/2007 9:28:37 PM||Preferences limit memory usage when idle to 1842.39MB
10/9/2007 9:28:37 PM||Preferences limit disk usage to 4.66GB
10/9/2007 9:28:37 PM||[cpu_sched] Resuming - CPU throttle
10/9/2007 9:28:37 PM|SETI@home|[cpu_sched] Resuming 08mr07aa.8174.13160.3.6.166_1
10/9/2007 9:28:37 PM|SETI@home|[cpu_sched] Resuming 07mr07am.7244.10297.16.6.123_0
10/9/2007 9:28:37 PM|SETI@home|[cpu_sched] Resuming 08mr07aa.12092.3344.5.6.139_1
10/9/2007 9:28:37 PM|SETI@home|[cpu_sched] Resuming 08mr07aa.12092.3344.5.6.151_1
10/9/2007 9:33:31 PM|SETI@home|[task_debug] result 08mr07aa.8174.13160.3.6.166_1 checkpointed
10/9/2007 9:33:31 PM|SETI@home|[task_debug] result 07mr07am.7244.10297.16.6.123_0 checkpointed
10/9/2007 9:33:31 PM|SETI@home|[task_debug] result 08mr07aa.12092.3344.5.6.139_1 checkpointed
10/9/2007 9:33:31 PM|SETI@home|[task_debug] result 08mr07aa.12092.3344.5.6.151_1 checkpointed
10/9/2007 9:34:01 PM|SETI@home|[task_debug] result 08mr07aa.8174.13160.3.6.166_1 checkpointed

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"Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds." -Albert Einstein

WOW.. This Q6600 is pumping out the packets now.. :) I have to assume that the problem is with the CPU throttleing. Since I set the CPU usage to 100%, Boinc has not crapped out. I will continue monitoring and update again tomorrow.

Thanks

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"Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds." -Albert Einstein

WOW.. This Q6600 is pumping out the packets now.. :) I have to assume that the problem is with the CPU throttleing. Since I set the CPU usage to 100%, Boinc has not crapped out. I will continue monitoring and update again tomorrow.

Thanks

That would look like it.

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OK.. so that seems to have cleared it up. Any idea as to why the throttleing seems to be a function of time instead of power? Or why these Duo and Quad CPUs do not like the throttleing? Should I use Threadmaster to throttle instead of the built in method?

TIA

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"Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds." -Albert Einstein

OK.. so that seems to have cleared it up. Any idea as to why the throttleing seems to be a function of time instead of power? Or why these Duo and Quad CPUs do not like the throttleing? Should I use Threadmaster to throttle instead of the built in method?

TIA

Throttling is based on time as that is all that we have available on all platforms. It is also checked once per second to see if you have gone over the % that you requested. This leads to patterns such as 80% being 4 seconds on and one off and 90% being 9 seconds and one off. This is not normally a problem, but if you have applications set to be evicted from memory when they are not running, it is a bit of a problem with some versions of BOINC (I am not certain when or if this was fixed.). Thread master does finer grain, BUT, it is apparently a royal pain to set up and it requires a new setup for each new version of a science application.

Almost all desktop machines and most laptops do quite well at 100% usage. Most machines are still responsive as BOINC runs the science at a priority just barely above idle.

A very few desktops have trouble running at 100%. These are almost all either clogged with dust, badly designed (poor airflow), or overclocked. Many laptops trade cooling capabilities for small size and light weight. Since laptops have to compromise on something, I will not call this bad design. They also have the same problems with dust bunnies and overclocking though.

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Thanks for all the great help.

When I used to crunch on a regular basis, Threadmaster was the way to go if one wanted to limit the cpu usage. Setting it up was always simple though as I always set the maximum cpu usage of any app to 75% and also set the threashhold for 30 seconds. So if any app asked for more than 75% of the cpu for more than 30 seconds it automatically got throttled. Worked great.

None of my desktops are having trouble running at 100%. I have a couple of P4s and Athlons that I am throttleing just to increase the responsivness when using office apps and internet etc. Otherwise the employees might start complaining. Being the boss, I really don't have time to listen to it..:)

I can't beleive how fast this C2D and C2Q are crunching.. holy crapola..

Thanks again.

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"Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds." -Albert Einstein

None of my desktops are having trouble running at 100%. I have a couple of P4s and Athlons that I am throttleing just to increase the responsivness when using office apps and internet etc. Otherwise the employees might start complaining. Being the boss, I really don't have time to listen to it..:)

The science app runs at the lowest priority, giving all standard apps CPU time over itself. There should be no slowdown in the response time of the computer. You should try it an a few machines to see for yourself.

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None of my desktops are having trouble running at 100%. I have a couple of P4s and Athlons that I am throttleing just to increase the responsivness when using office apps and internet etc. Otherwise the employees might start complaining. Being the boss, I really don't have time to listen to it..:)

The science app runs at the lowest priority, giving all standard apps CPU time over itself. There should be no slowdown in the response time of the computer. You should try it an a few machines to see for yourself.

Actually, I have tried it and that is why the throttleing is a
must have. In theory it is a great concept to have the science app run at the lowest priority thus giving everything else the higher priority and minimizing response times. Unfortunately, response times are affected. I have found that a throttle set at ~75% has provided the best response times. Of course I don't pay attention to milliseconds or microseconds but ultimately how often I get called into the users office for unexplainable application lag etc.

Thanks for the input.

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"Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds." -Albert Einstein

Unfortunately, response times are affected.

I am really surprised to hear this. My own tests have shown that response time is affected in the microseconds range and thus not enough to really worry about. I work as an IT Admin at an Intermediate Care facility for the Mentally Ill and I have BOINC on their machines (with proper permission from the General Manager) without any lag.

Typical applications range from MS Works, Office, a special DB program for record keeping on the Residents, AntiVirus software, backup programs, Print Shop Deluxe (for the Activities Department), my own custom batch scripts and a web browser (they are not allowed to browse the web, but State Department reports must be filed consistently directly to the State Department of Public Health using a secure web interface).

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