Are you suggesting the 30 are just hippies flexing their muscles and shouting lots and will eventually loose anyway but will have a few good (sad) stories to tell their kids? :o)))~

I'll leave Chris to say if he's a hippy ;) But there are times when it's hard to stand up for what you believe because you know it's going to be difficult. Well, 30 stood up.

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Well, 30 stood up.

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And that is worth something but if all you can have is 30 then that does limit your powers to effect change somewhat.


Here's the inspiring text:

Barely a year ago.

Long I pondered my King's cryptic talk of victory.

Time has proven him wise.


For from free Greek to free Greek
a word was spread

that bold Leonidas and his 300,
so far from home,

lay down their lives

not just for Sparta
but for all Greece

and the promise this country holds.


Now here on this ragged patch called Plataya

Xerxes' hoards face obliteration.


Ha-Oo


Just there the barbarians huddle.
Sheer terror gripping tight.

Their hearts with icy fingers.

Knowing full well what merciless horrors
they suffered at the swords and spears of 300.


Yet they stare now across the plain
at 10,000 Spartans commanding 30,000 free Greeks


Ha-Oo Ha-Oo Ha-Oo


The enemy out number us a poultry 3 to 1.
Good odds for any Greek.


This day we rescue a world from mystesism and tyrony
and usher in a future brighter than anything we can imagine.

Give thanks men to Leonidas and the brave 300.

To Victory



(I did a parody of this but I don't think it's appropriate here.)

I'm not sure what you are saying?

Are you suggesting the 30 are just hippies flexing their muscles and shouting lots and will eventually loose anyway but will have a few good (sad) stories to tell their kids? :o)))~

No, I didn't mean it to come across quite like that. But some of my teacher training course was about whats known in the trade as "group dynamics" and its a fascinating subject.

Now then wheres that box with my flared jeans, flowery kipper tie, love beads, and the Joan Baez album........

What teaching certificate?

I hold on to my copy of "Any Day Now" by Joan like it was gold so don't look at me.

Friendship = Loyalty


Loyalty = Friendship

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Well, 30 stood up.

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And that is worth something but if all you can have is 30 then that does limit your powers to effect change somewhat.

It only takes one person to effect change. It just helps if that person has 29 with them.

That's a cool gif cRunchy ;)

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Well, 30 stood up.

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And that is worth something but if all you can have is 30 then that does limit your powers to effect change somewhat.

It only takes one person to effect change. I just helps if that person has 29 with them.

Whatever goes on in this or that forum having 29 other people to call friend or comrade is worth the world.

... That's a cool gif cRunchy ;)...

Gifs are quite space hungry so it has less frames than I wanted. I just sent your gmail the full 2mb video n audio. Sorry :o))

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Well, 30 stood up.

(Don't Link - Just copy the image if you want it.)

And that is worth something but if all you can have is 30 then that does limit your powers to effect change somewhat.

It only takes one person to effect change. It just helps if that person has 29 with them.

Whatever goes on in this or that forum having 29 other people to call friend or comrade is worth the world.

... That's a cool gif cRunchy ;)...

Gifs are quite space hungry so it has less frames than I wanted. I just sent your gmail the full 2mb video n audio. Sorry :o))

The video is good. I enjoyed the film 300 though not as much as my older brothers were going on about it. It was interesting to note that it wasn't what they achieved on the day, but it was what they inspired later on by "standing up" that was their real success, i.e., the defeat of the overwhelming Persian armies.

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The Thousandth Man
Rudyard Kipling

ONE man in a thousand, Solomon says,
Will stick more close than a brother.
And it’s worth while seeking him half your days
If you find him before the other.
Nine hundred and ninety-nine depend
On what the world sees in you,
But the Thousandth Man will stand your friend
With the whole round world agin you.

’Tis neither promise nor prayer nor show
Will settle the finding for ’ee.
Nine hundred and ninety-nine of ’em go
By your looks, or your acts, or your glory.
But if he finds you and you find him,
The rest of the world don’t matter;
For the Thousandth Man will sink or swim
With you in any water.

You can use his purse with no more talk
Than he uses yours for his spendings,
And laugh and meet in your daily walk
As though there had been no lendings.
Nine hundred and ninety-nine of ’em call
For silver and gold in their dealings;
But the Thousandth Man he’s worth ’em all;
Because you can show him your feelings.

His wrong’s your wrong, and his right’s your right,
In season or out of season.
Stand up and back it in all men’s sight—
With that for your only reason!
Nine hundred and ninety-nine can’t bide
The shame or mocking or laughter,
But the Thousandth Man will stand by your side
To the gallows-foot—and after!

Lovely verse Kenzie,

Not too many people appreciate Kipling but if you can get past the fact he was a product of his time he had something to offer in the way he expressed his ideas and what he saw in people.

One of his sayings was that "fences make good neighbours" (or something similar) which whilst imperialistic, very British, Raj and typical of the NWFP walled courtyard houses (North West Frontier Province - Of now Pakistan) is probably true.

We all need our personal space and need to know where the boundaries are even if the fences we make are small and flexible.

He reminds me a little of the way Khalil Gibran writes sometimes - though far more cliped and tight.

His "The Man Who Would Be King" wasn't accurate at all though.

SNIP...

... That's a cool gif cRunchy ;)...

Gifs are quite space hungry so it has less frames than I wanted. I just sent your gmail the full 2mb video n audio. Sorry :o))

The video is good. I enjoyed the film 300 though not as much as my older brothers were going on about it. It was interesting to note that it wasn't what they achieved on the day, but it was what they inspired later on by "standing up" that was their real success, i.e., the defeat of the overwhelming Persian armies.

I didn't actually like the film much.

I appreciated it's harsh dual lighting filmik style and that it attempted to follow the original picture script and that it was essentially a "legandary" style tale but I hated the voices.

When the narator (old lost one eye) spoke I kept remembering him playing the daft monk in 'Van Helsing' and also when the councillior to the queen (the good one) spoke I just saw him playing the Enquisitor in "The Fountain" (one of my favourite movies.)


However the movie did capture the sense of an epic legend in that it was a fantastical tale.


If Spartan law really did not allow for retreat then for them, at least, I can see how the concept of loyalty to the end would be something worth believing in.

Sadly it is the victors who write history and then bathe themselves in some revisionist illusion..

The rest of us simply have reality.

Lucky for us we have friends in the same situation to keep us company ;o)

Do friends share chocolate? :)

Yes, I have. If they do it while taking a shower though it's just weird.

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