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Message 621106 - Posted: 17 Aug 2007, 16:09:18 UTC

We've tested the boundaries, folks. We know what they are. There is no longer any need to test the boundaries, lest we sink to the childish level of others. Knightmare has an excellent piece of advice, regarding previous attempts to move away from this forum, and I invite him to post about it.
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Message 621185 - Posted: 17 Aug 2007, 17:43:57 UTC

I'm not entirely sure of what you think my " advice " was, Sarge.

A lot of the time, I wind up saying things in passing that people seem to find good ideas, and I simply don't remember them.
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Message 621190 - Posted: 17 Aug 2007, 17:46:38 UTC - in response to Message 621185.  

I'm not entirely sure of what you think my " advice " was, Sarge.

A lot of the time, I wind up saying things in passing that people seem to find good ideas, and I simply don't remember them.


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Message 621192 - Posted: 17 Aug 2007, 17:47:39 UTC - in response to Message 621190.  

I'm not entirely sure of what you think my " advice " was, Sarge.

A lot of the time, I wind up saying things in passing that people seem to find good ideas, and I simply don't remember them.


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LMAO. I think I should prolly start recording what I tell people so that later on I can go back and find out what I said. :-)

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Message 621199 - Posted: 17 Aug 2007, 17:53:50 UTC

As discussed last night and one other time: attempts to move away from flame wars here by going to other sites and why those attempts either failed or met with limited success; your idea(s) for how it could be tried again, with more success this time.
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Message 621207 - Posted: 17 Aug 2007, 18:03:38 UTC

Doesn't help, Richard.
Let KM share his idea.
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Message 621306 - Posted: 17 Aug 2007, 20:26:23 UTC - in response to Message 621199.  

As discussed last night and one other time: attempts to move away from flame wars here by going to other sites and why those attempts either failed or met with limited success; your idea(s) for how it could be tried again, with more success this time.

Hoping this clarified things for KM.
Hope he'll post on his idea(s).
Thread bump until then. :)
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Message 621602 - Posted: 18 Aug 2007, 1:21:36 UTC

Everybody, take a break from this thread.
I have already requested, via red-X, that the posts after I asked KM to share his suggestion, be deleted.
If KM does not type it up by tomorrow morning, then I'll go ahead and share what I remember of his suggestion.
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Message 621667 - Posted: 18 Aug 2007, 3:15:13 UTC

Sarge, go ahead and share what you recall. That way, I can get more of an idea which piece of advice it was that you are wishing everyone to follow.

As I said, I say a lot of things that people may think is a good idea...but I simply don't remember them.

If you share what you recall...I can then, perhaps, expand on it.

Keep in mind...I may also choose to refrain from expanding on it. Depends on what I said...lol
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Message 621676 - Posted: 18 Aug 2007, 3:42:23 UTC

P.S. - If team boards are altered to allow people to register even though they are not team members, then yu may find you draw someone in. More importantly, someone could, from time to time, post links in the team recruitment forum and here in the Cafe.
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Message 621691 - Posted: 18 Aug 2007, 4:07:29 UTC

Ohhhh....THAT'S what you are talking about. lol

OK look....here's the way I see things.....

Our forums are open to everyone. We do not require a person to be a part of our team to post on our forums. We do this because we ( as a team ) like to see our forums as the sanctuary for people who simply want to come in...look around...maybe post something...maybe join in on the chat sessions.

We have people who are regular users in the chat that aren't members of the team, and that's perfectly fine with us.

So the excuse that " we wouldn't have anywhere to post " is a moot point. All they have to do is look around.

I have had to mod exactly ONE post on the Calm Chaos forums. As far as I know ( other than spammer posts ) I am the ONLY one who has modded anything. I think the reason for that is that everyone on our forums actually knows how to get along with others....and our rules are pretty clear cut. We set out to make the rules fair for everyone, but not so vague that people will continually try to push the boundaries.

I know I am getting off base a bit....and I am trying not to...

Two members of the 30 are members of Calm Chaos as well...but that doesn't mean that they aren't welcome. I may or may not agree with them....but they are welcome nonetheless.

As far as having them open to everyone...several people have joined our team simply because of getting a look at our forums and seeing that we are a good bunch that genuinely likes to talk to each other.

I understand that there are some people that some teams simply wouldn't want around....but we have found that MOST of the ones you really wouldn't want sorund don't stick around long anyway. Also, if you have a clear set of rules, then it's much easier to keep things from getting ugly.

This is not ( in any way ) a recruiting message. I am simply stating what has worked for us.
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Message 621777 - Posted: 18 Aug 2007, 6:37:27 UTC - in response to Message 621691.  
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Two members of the 30 are members of Calm Chaos as well...but that doesn't mean that they aren't welcome. I may or may not agree with them....but they are welcome nonetheless.

The 30 have their own forum, and busy it is to. The 30 forum does not have any rules, there are no moderators, no leaders, just admin to keep things ticking, and no one, absolutely no one has been moderated. Whilst probably being populated by the most volatile and active of members of the SETI forums, the 30 forum has never, I repeat NEVER, had a flame war. They get on with each other, all members of different teams, and have common goals, which are



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Message 621792 - Posted: 18 Aug 2007, 7:02:56 UTC - in response to Message 621777.  

Two members of the 30 are members of Calm Chaos as well...but that doesn't mean that they aren't welcome. I may or may not agree with them....but they are welcome nonetheless.

The 30 have their own forum, and busy it is to. The 30 forum does not have any rules, there are no moderators, no leaders, just admin to keep things ticking, and no one, absolutely no one has been moderated. Whilst probably being populated by the most volatile and active of members of the SETI forums, the 30 forum has never, I repeat NEVER, had a flame war. They get on with each other, all members of different teams, and have common goals, which are......



Unstated?? Cryptic??? Enigmatic???? Profound?????

Or just a well kept secret??

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Message 621795 - Posted: 18 Aug 2007, 7:12:06 UTC

Funny...I was JUST telling one of " The 30 " earlier tonight...that if people wanted to hear what I had to say....they would ask.

It would appear that he would be just about the only one that values my opinion.
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Message 621796 - Posted: 18 Aug 2007, 7:18:32 UTC - in response to Message 621792.  
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Two members of the 30 are members of Calm Chaos as well...but that doesn't mean that they aren't welcome. I may or may not agree with them....but they are welcome nonetheless.

The 30 have their own forum, and busy it is to. The 30 forum does not have any rules, there are no moderators, no leaders, just admin to keep things ticking, and no one, absolutely no one has been moderated. Whilst probably being populated by the most volatile and active of members of the SETI forums, the 30 forum has never, I repeat NEVER, had a flame war. They get on with each other, all members of different teams, and have common goals, which are......



Unstated?? Cryptic??? Enigmatic???? Profound?????

Or just a well kept secret??

I don't profess to speak for the 30, and not having formalized our common goals into 'official' words, I thought perhaps others of the 30 might wish to state them. Suffice it to say, the 'official' name of the 30 forum is "SETIsupporters".





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Message 621801 - Posted: 18 Aug 2007, 7:26:43 UTC

Going off and hiding on your own forums without having a set goal doesn't seem all the supportive.
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Message 621804 - Posted: 18 Aug 2007, 7:34:57 UTC
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Goal No. 1: Speakin' / Communicatin' Regardin' the Truth of Any Matter

and havin' NO FEAR 'That' That Matter, Shall NOT be 'Mis-Construed' . . .



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Message 621808 - Posted: 18 Aug 2007, 7:44:14 UTC - in response to Message 621802.  
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For holding up your falling RAC.
Now available at the SETI@home Store.

I'm not sure who you are taking a dig at now Misfit. But I have compromised my Climate RACs to contribute shed loads to SETI, and have bent over double trying to get Team England members to crunch SETI as well as Climate who would not normally even look here.

I suggest as a moderator of SETI you take care with your sarcasm or I'll tell Team England to stick with Climate shall I? Or don't you even care? Which I suspect you don't.


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Message 621814 - Posted: 18 Aug 2007, 7:55:55 UTC - in response to Message 621801.  
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Going off and hiding on your own forums without having a set goal doesn't seem all the supportive.

We are a private group who choose to speak off-forum in private. The name is just a name. It was the best I could think of at the time when having to choose a unique forum name at the start. But you know about these technical things don't you KM, which is why you criticize so easily.





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Message 621818 - Posted: 18 Aug 2007, 8:10:26 UTC - in response to Message 621814.  

But you know about these technical things don't you KM, which is why you criticize so easily.


And what, exactly, does that have to do with anything?

I criticize when I see people making futile " gestures " that are going to get them nowhere but back into the same old crap.

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