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MrGray Send message Joined: 17 Aug 05 Posts: 3170 Credit: 60,411 RAC: 0 |
I won't do your homework for you bud. "Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind." - Dr. Seuss |
Rush Send message Joined: 3 Apr 99 Posts: 3131 Credit: 302,569 RAC: 0 |
I won't do your homework for you bud. No worries, you just post stuff you believe in. You haven't even done your own. Cordially, Rush elrushbo2@theobviousgmail.com Remove the obvious... |
MrGray Send message Joined: 17 Aug 05 Posts: 3170 Credit: 60,411 RAC: 0 |
Anyone else know what I'm talking about with building seven being pulled? Survey says: "Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind." - Dr. Seuss |
Rush Send message Joined: 3 Apr 99 Posts: 3131 Credit: 302,569 RAC: 0 |
Anyone else know what I'm talking about with building seven being pulled? I know what the words mean, I should have been more clear: Did you have any actual argument? Cordially, Rush elrushbo2@theobviousgmail.com Remove the obvious... |
MrGray Send message Joined: 17 Aug 05 Posts: 3170 Credit: 60,411 RAC: 0 |
The proof is in the pudding. I have to refer you to the movies. "Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind." - Dr. Seuss |
Jeffrey Send message Joined: 21 Nov 03 Posts: 4793 Credit: 26,029 RAC: 0 |
surely there must be something more to this... You're looking at the US Census Bureau unemployment statistics from 1997-2007: Can you spot 9/11/01? ;) It may not be 1984 but George Orwell sure did see the future . . . |
MrGray Send message Joined: 17 Aug 05 Posts: 3170 Credit: 60,411 RAC: 0 |
Looks like the Fibonacci curve has turned. "Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind." - Dr. Seuss |
Rush Send message Joined: 3 Apr 99 Posts: 3131 Credit: 302,569 RAC: 0 |
The proof is in the pudding. Then it should be easy for you to raise a specific point, very very easy. Here, I'll start it for you: "The most likely scenario is that someone fired a missile, and then very shortly thereafter, a bunch of MIB's showed up in trucks to scatter extremely heavy pieces of landing gear and fuselage around because...." Then, "None of the rescuers saw this because..." and then put the Cloaks of Invisibility and the Hogwart's branded Extry Discreet Fork Lifts here. I have to refer you to the movies. I'm not going to discuss the entire content of any number of the movies with you. If you find a point particularly compelling, raise it. Your cut-and-paste jobs and vague hand-waving are not sufficient as reasoning to make a point. Cordially, Rush elrushbo2@theobviousgmail.com Remove the obvious... |
Rush Send message Joined: 3 Apr 99 Posts: 3131 Credit: 302,569 RAC: 0 |
You're looking at the US Census Bureau unemployment statistics from 1997-2007: This is funny too. Why? Because minor fluctuations between about 4 and 6 percent unemployment over ten years is nearly negligible. In a country of approximately 300 million, a 95% employment rate is full employment, because there will always be x number of people that are changing jobs, or ceasing to look for work at any given moment. Cordially, Rush elrushbo2@theobviousgmail.com Remove the obvious... |
Jeffrey Send message Joined: 21 Nov 03 Posts: 4793 Credit: 26,029 RAC: 0 |
This is funny too. Why? Because minor fluctuations [snip] Now how did I already know what your rebuttal would be... While true, I still find it very odd that people were being fired in droves prior to 911, and after 911 people were being hired in droves when the future was looking so unpredictable, especially for corporate america... Sorry, but 'common sense' should dictate the exact opposite... Not too mention, the distinct change that occurred precisely on 911... And anyway, I know who was being fired prior to 911 and who was being hired after 911... While that is the key to the whole 'who dun-nit', I'll leave it to you to figure out... I wouldn't want to come off as an accuser, not my style... There are other statistics too, like the high number of people that 'chose' not to reenter the work force following 911... I know why, and maybe in time, you'll know why too... ;) BTW - That little 1.5 percent 'fluctuation' prior to 911 actually represents a very large number of people, making it, 'not so minor'... It may not be 1984 but George Orwell sure did see the future . . . |
Rush Send message Joined: 3 Apr 99 Posts: 3131 Credit: 302,569 RAC: 0 |
Now how did I already know what your rebuttal would be... Because your glaring errors are self-evident to any reader, including you? While true, I still find it very odd that people were being fired in droves prior to 911, and after 911 people were being hired in droves when the future was looking so unpredictable, especially for corporate america... Sorry, but 'common sense' should dictate the exact opposite... Not too mention, the distinct change that occurred precisely on 911... What common sense actually dictates here is that people actually weren't being hired (or fired) in droves because the fluctuations were minor--even the trend changes were minor. In a country the size of the U.S. that enjoys full employment, even the biggest fluctuation in that graph still fits well within normal variations and therefore explanations are difficult at best. And anyway, I know who was being fired prior to 911 and who was being hired after 911... While that is the key to the whole 'who dun-nit', I'll leave it to you to figure out... I wouldn't want to come off as an accuser, not my style... So many words to say absolutely nothing. Are we supposed to read your mind to find your point? While it's quaint that you seem to think you're capable of reading the minds of all these people to determine their motivations, your lack of ability to explain even the most basic parts of your own thoughts suggest otherwise. BTW - That little 1.5 percent 'fluctuation' prior to 911 actually represents a very large number of people, making it, 'not so minor'... Ummmm, so what? Given that people will ALWAYS quit, change careers, be hired, be fired, go back to school, retire, leave, return, et cetera, it's not only minor, it's very nearly negligible, regardless of what the real number number is. Cordially, Rush elrushbo2@theobviousgmail.com Remove the obvious... |
MrGray Send message Joined: 17 Aug 05 Posts: 3170 Credit: 60,411 RAC: 0 |
I'm not going to discuss the entire content of any number of the movies with you. If you find a point particularly compelling, raise it. Your cut-and-paste jobs and vague hand-waving are not sufficient as reasoning to make a point. No dice, Rush. Your running behind on your homework and I won't bail you out. Empower yourself with enough knowledge to be able to keep up with the points of the conversation. There can be no discussion without common points of reference. Tick-Tock "Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind." - Dr. Seuss |
Rush Send message Joined: 3 Apr 99 Posts: 3131 Credit: 302,569 RAC: 0 |
I'm not going to discuss the entire content of any number of the movies with you. If you find a point particularly compelling, raise it. Your cut-and-paste jobs and vague hand-waving are not sufficient as reasoning to make a point. I'll make this as simple as I know how: a Google link isn't a point. So make a point. Just one. Anything. Why? Because then we have, as you said, "a common point of reference." You then would actually have made a point of conversation. I'll even repeat the opening I gave you to make it even simpler. "The most likely scenario is that someone fired a missile, and then very shortly thereafter, a bunch of MIB's showed up in trucks to scatter extremely heavy pieces of landing gear and fuselage around because...." Then, "None of the rescuers saw this because..." and then put the Cloaks of Invisibility and the Hogwart's branded Extry Discreet Fork Lifts here. Well, if that's your theory. As an aside, I'm not "running behind on my homework," and I've seen nothing to indicate that you are capable of "bail[ing] me out," even if I were. Rest assured, I've done my homework very very well. Cordially, Rush elrushbo2@theobviousgmail.com Remove the obvious... |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24882 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
Hi guys. There is Loose Change for 9/11. There is also Ludicrious diversion for 7/7. Both films do show discrepancies with the official information that is in the public domain. I have always assumed that people are intelligient enough to discern what is right from wrong, truth from lies, until these same people prove beyond a doubt that they are total idiots. However, since WWII, most western intelligience forces have become more knowlegdable & hopefully, effective. These films do in fact raise pertinent questions for debate. If the discrepancies are valid, WHERE were these so called intelligence services? With what I have read on these posts, I am sad to say that until we as so called human beings realise that because an individual's opinion is different to theirs, there will always be wars, instead of being human enough to debate it in an understanding & pleasant manner. |
Jeffrey Send message Joined: 21 Nov 03 Posts: 4793 Credit: 26,029 RAC: 0 |
So many words to say absolutely nothing. Anyone who can look at that graph and not see that 911 marked 'significant changes' before during and after the event, well, I can't help you... I know the details, but until others can at least see the big picture, discussion of details is not worth the time wasted on deaf ears and blind eyes... Believe as you wish... I am not responsible for your enlightenment nor for your ignorance, and I thank God every day for that... ;) It may not be 1984 but George Orwell sure did see the future . . . |
MrGray Send message Joined: 17 Aug 05 Posts: 3170 Credit: 60,411 RAC: 0 |
I see the picture, Jefferey, even without the graph, War is big business. Just ask the military industrial complex!! Not that they'll answer you... :) http://video.google.com/googleplayer.swf?docId=4156174553630131591&hl . "Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind." - Dr. Seuss |
Rush Send message Joined: 3 Apr 99 Posts: 3131 Credit: 302,569 RAC: 0 |
So many words to say absolutely nothing. Don't worry, you aren't capable of providing whatever "help" you might think I need. But enlighten us, what "significant changes" should "anyone who can look at that graph" see show "before, during, and after the event?" I mean, it's a 10 year graph, from Jan '97 - Jan '07; while Sep. 11 '01 is contained there, the graph provides no information for "during" the event. Similarly, the graph shows no changes whatsoever as a result of 9/11. It was trending up before 9/11, it continued to trend up after 9/11. Again, any changes in that period are miniscule fluctuations of full employment. I know the details, but until others can at least see the big picture, discussion of details is not worth the time wasted on deaf ears and blind eyes... Oh enlighten us oh brilliant statistician, as even the smallest child in their innocence must be shown the simplest of details so that they can grow to see the world around them. Regale us with the details so, that like the small child, we can begin to see the big picture, and cast away these deaf ears and blind eyes! Help us, oh holiest of math men, to finally see the light! We wish to believe but the way is not clear, we wish to gain enlightenment and to banish our ignorance! Come down from the mountain as Moses did for the Jews and learn us from the holy writ!! Cordially, Rush elrushbo2@theobviousgmail.com Remove the obvious... |
Darth Dogbytes™ Send message Joined: 30 Jul 03 Posts: 7512 Credit: 2,021,148 RAC: 0 |
So many words to say absolutely nothing. Perhaps one of his 72 virgins could enlighten us, that is, if they're not too busy having ladies night out in Mecca. Account frozen... |
Rush Send message Joined: 3 Apr 99 Posts: 3131 Credit: 302,569 RAC: 0 |
Perhaps one of his 72 virgins could enlighten us, that is, if they're not too busy having ladies night out in Mecca. Agreed. One has to wonder about what is likely to be a battle royale among dem virgins, I mean, how do they gets themselves a man? Cordially, Rush elrushbo2@theobviousgmail.com Remove the obvious... |
MrGray Send message Joined: 17 Aug 05 Posts: 3170 Credit: 60,411 RAC: 0 |
Crash sites usually look like this: Flight 93 Rare footage: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZekosYOmXc Flight 93 Witness: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xPGL9XimWCs Flight 93 landed in Ohio? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sueAQB3fjqo . "Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind." - Dr. Seuss |
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