Lookin' Up (May 23 2007)

Author	Message
additude Send message Joined: 21 Aug 99 Posts: 11 Credit: 25,662,028 RAC: 3	Message 574991 - Posted: 24 May 2007, 20:37:09 UTC I may have something different going on. I have renamed app_info.xml files to app_info.xmlzzz on my machines and I am still running the enhanced versions... When I check task manager it shows the enhanced versions running. I DO NOT have the regular seti science app in the projects folder. All I have is the chicken apps...and a renamed app_info.xml file and the chicken versions are running fine. Uploading, downloading, etc. We are all Alien. It just depends on which planet you are standing on. ID: 574991 ·

Justin M. Morford Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 23 Sep 99 Posts: 36 Credit: 2,539,975 RAC: 0	Message 574993 - Posted: 24 May 2007, 20:42:06 UTC - in response to Message 574977. even Beta seems to be accepting uploads, although the server's supposedly disabled. I was able to upload some beta results earlier in the week, but couldn't report them until about 5 minutes ago. Figured it was because the servers were disabled/not running, but I guess the beta server status page isn't quite right. Justin ID: 574993 ·

HFB1217 Send message Joined: 25 Dec 05 Posts: 102 Credit: 9,424,572 RAC: 0	Message 575006 - Posted: 24 May 2007, 21:03:31 UTC - in response to Message 574991. I may have something different going on. I have renamed app_info.xml files to app_info.xmlzzz on my machines and I am still running the enhanced versions.... Chances are that Windows does not recognize anything over 3 characters in the file designation. So what you added is clipped when it is looked for by the client. Change the name like adding a letter or number to the app_info to read like this vxapp_info.xml. so when it searches for the app file it can't recognize it and will not load it. Come and Visit Us at BBR TeamStarFire **My 9th year of SetiA Founding Member of the Original Seti Team Starfire at Broadband Reports.com ** ID: 575006 ·

gomeyer Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 21 May 99 Posts: 488 Credit: 50,370,425 RAC: 0	Message 575016 - Posted: 24 May 2007, 21:17:37 UTC - in response to Message 574991. I may have something different going on. I have renamed app_info.xml files to app_info.xmlzzz on my machines and I am still running the enhanced versions... When I check task manager it shows the enhanced versions running. I DO NOT have the regular seti science app in the projects folder. All I have is the chicken apps...and a renamed app_info.xml file and the chicken versions are running fine. Uploading, downloading, etc. As long as you maintain a queue balance, BOINC will continue to run chicken soup. If your queue ever runs out however, without the app_info.xml file BOINC will download the standard app and begin using that. This seems to be normal and has been reported by many during the "outage". ID: 575016 ·

Lee Gresham Send message Joined: 12 Aug 03 Posts: 159 Credit: 130,116,228 RAC: 0	Message 575032 - Posted: 24 May 2007, 21:46:33 UTC HTTP Internal Errors Persist Resistance Is Futile Delta-V ID: 575032 ·

Misfit Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 21 Jun 01 Posts: 21804 Credit: 2,815,091 RAC: 0	Message 575201 - Posted: 25 May 2007, 5:51:44 UTC - in response to Message 575032. Resistance Is Futile It sure is. me@rescam.org ID: 575201 ·

H Elzinga Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 20 Aug 99 Posts: 125 Credit: 8,277,116 RAC: 0	Message 575217 - Posted: 25 May 2007, 7:21:12 UTC - in response to Message 574833. The app is indeed very similar. But 'H Elzinga' was asking about *splitters. My take on that is: The newly recorded data, of which there is plenty in cold storage (even though the Arecibo telescope is switched off and partially dismantled for refurbishment) will need completely new splitters. It would be crazy not to run them under Linux, so any remaining development effort will go to new splitters/Linux. The old* splitters only run under Solaris. Because there is so little classic data left, it is not worth converting the old splitters to run under Linux - that's why every Solaris-compatible pocket calculator in the lab has been diverted from its regular work, and assigned to fill 10-day optimised caches instead. So what your telling me is the new splitters wil be a completely new design which are primarily targeted on the linux platform and not solaris. Also from the link grant provided i understand that dat will indeed be stored on disk (altough there is stil reference to a tape drive) which would remove the slow reading process from tape. When running the splitter on a linux system whit the ability to read data from disk i imagien result creation rate could double maybe even triple. ID: 575217 ·

Teorias Send message Joined: 21 Jul 99 Posts: 5 Credit: 23,941,372 RAC: 0	Message 575367 - Posted: 25 May 2007, 13:22:25 UTC Yesterday a received about 300WU on all my stations but since then and after returning most of them the message that the server is out of work reapeared. Something like "NO WORK FROM PROJECT" Something you guys did right and them made wrong again??? Best regards. ID: 575367 ·

Josef W. Segur Volunteer developer Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 30 Oct 99 Posts: 4504 Credit: 1,414,761 RAC: 0	Message 575446 - Posted: 25 May 2007, 16:42:02 UTC - in response to Message 575217. So what your telling me is the new splitters wil be a completely new design which are primarily targeted on the linux platform and not solaris. ... The multibeam splitter code isn't that much different from setiathome_enhanced. The basic task in both cases is to take data consisting of 25610241024 complex data points, perform length 2048 forward FFTs then length 8 inverse FFTs to divide it into 256 subbands with 1024*1024 data points each. I think those computations would dominate the speed of the splitter, whether it's compiled for Solaris or Linux. Joe ID: 575446 ·

additude Send message Joined: 21 Aug 99 Posts: 11 Credit: 25,662,028 RAC: 3	Message 576025 - Posted: 26 May 2007, 19:05:48 UTC - in response to Message 575016. I may have something different going on. I have renamed app_info.xml files to app_info.xmlzzz on my machines and I am still running the enhanced versions... When I check task manager it shows the enhanced versions running. I DO NOT have the regular seti science app in the projects folder. All I have is the chicken apps...and a renamed app_info.xml file and the chicken versions are running fine. Uploading, downloading, etc. As long as you maintain a queue balance, BOINC will continue to run chicken soup. If your queue ever runs out however, without the app_info.xml file BOINC will download the standard app and begin using that. This seems to be normal and has been reported by many during the "outage". Ya, das is it Ya... I had a couple of machines that did download the science app...and WU's then I renamed the app_info.xml back to original and deleted all the science app stuff that was downloaded and havent seen it since. Cool to know. Thanks! We are all Alien. It just depends on which planet you are standing on. ID: 576025 ·

Fuzzy Hollynoodles Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 3 Apr 99 Posts: 9659 Credit: 251,998 RAC: 0	Message 576176 - Posted: 26 May 2007, 23:27:06 UTC - in response to Message 574991. I may have something different going on. I have renamed app_info.xml files to app_info.xmlzzz on my machines and I am still running the enhanced versions... When I check task manager it shows the enhanced versions running. I DO NOT have the regular seti science app in the projects folder. All I have is the chicken apps...and a renamed app_info.xml file and the chicken versions are running fine. Uploading, downloading, etc. I'm not quite sure what you mean, because we do crunch Setiathome_enhanced WU's here. What you are referring to with the app_info.xml file is about the optimized application, most probably Chicken's optimized app. If you exit BOINC, not only minimize it to the tray, and restart it, you will see which application you run. If you run Chicken's app. then it will say: m/dd/yyyy h:mm:ss PM\|SETI@home\|Found app_info.xml; using anonymous platform "I'm trying to maintain a shred of dignity in this world." - Me ID: 576176 ·

Odysseus Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 26 Jul 99 Posts: 1808 Credit: 6,701,347 RAC: 6	Message 576196 - Posted: 26 May 2007, 23:54:31 UTC - in response to Message 576176. I may have something different going on. I have renamed app_info.xml files to app_info.xmlzzz on my machines and I am still running the enhanced versions... If you exit BOINC, not only minimize it to the tray, and restart it, you will see which application you run. If you run Chicken's app. then it will say: m/dd/yyyy h:mm:ss PM\|SETI@home\|Found app_info.xml; using anonymous platform If app_info.xml has a different name it wonÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t be recognized. However, those who used the renaming workaround before the server bug was fixed will be able to continue using their optimized appsÃ¢â‚¬â€no matter what version the Manager thinks they areÃ¢â‚¬â€as long as BOINC has a current association between that app and the version called for by the server. The only sure tests to identify an optimized app are by the process name shown in Task Manager / Activity Monitor / top while itÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s running, and by the Ã¢â‚¬ËœsignatureÃ¢â‚¬â„¢ in the output messages from a result page on the website. ThatÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s assuming one still has a copy of the stock executable in the project folder, of course: its complete absence should be a bit of a clue that the stock app isnÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t running. ;) ID: 576196 ·

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