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Dirk Sadowski Send message Joined: 6 Apr 07 Posts: 7105 Credit: 147,663,825 RAC: 5 |
Posted 13 Jun 2007 19:51:37 UTC ..and nothing happened! :-( A new one: http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/workunit.php?wuid=132552584 |
Keith T. Send message Joined: 23 Aug 99 Posts: 962 Credit: 537,293 RAC: 9 |
Please see the SETI Beta forum thread Validate error? I appears that Reporting results immediately may cause some Validate errors. The new BOINC 5.10.7 client alows this feature by setting Connect Time to 0.0 days. I appears that this can possibly make Validate errors more likely to happen. Joe Segur has suggested setting connect time to 0.001 days. This is equal to 86.4 seconds which should be enough time for the result file to be written to disk before attempting Validation. Lets hope this may be a solution to the problem. Sir Arthur C Clarke 1917-2008 |
Dirk Sadowski Send message Joined: 6 Apr 07 Posts: 7105 Credit: 147,663,825 RAC: 5 |
I would like to use the new V5.10.7, BUT I need for my QX6700 'CPU-affinity'! So I must wait to the time that somebody make an new opt. client with this feature. See this thread: More features for BOINC V5.10.7 ? Here some new 'invalid results': http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/workunit.php?wuid=136186339 http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/workunit.php?wuid=136179475 http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/workunit.php?wuid=132049176 |
Crunch3r Send message Joined: 15 Apr 99 Posts: 1546 Credit: 3,438,823 RAC: 0 |
Please see the SETI Beta forum thread Validate error? It is server side. It's been no problem using the 5.9.X client here nor on any other project i'm doing atm (like ABC@Home, Einstein@home etc... ). It works like a charm. The issues only rised after the recent switch/"upgrade" of the validators to i686 hosts ... Now if anyone could adress this only please ? Preferably the one who made the transition to i686... IT'S BROKEN !!! Join BOINC United now! |
Keith T. Send message Joined: 23 Aug 99 Posts: 962 Credit: 537,293 RAC: 9 |
I understand that the the problem occurs on the server side. However on the SETI Beta project I had 2 Validate Errors yesterday after setting Connect Interval to 0.00 which causes results to be returned immediately. I changed C.I. to 0.001 as suggested by Joe Segur. The next Beta result I returned which completed a Quorum validated OK. It just appears to be more than co-incidence that those who are getting Validate Errors are also returning results immediately. |
Josef W. Segur Send message Joined: 30 Oct 99 Posts: 4504 Credit: 1,414,761 RAC: 0 |
Please see the SETI Beta forum thread Validate error? Certainly it's server side, but unless we pin it down I'd expect a quick fix which simply disallows setting connect time less than .01 days as it formerly was. David Anderson and Rom Walton have gotten used to being shouted at, so even if their server code doesn't work right under Linux on 686 hardware they may prefer a workaround to a full fix. And the project is unlikely to move the code back to Solaris boxes which have reached end of life. I don't know if I would recognize the problem in the code, having no Linux experience. But I'll probably try if nobody else does. Joe |
Dirk Sadowski Send message Joined: 6 Apr 07 Posts: 7105 Credit: 147,663,825 RAC: 5 |
OOppss.. I'm sorry! ..this result is 'bad' because of bad OC! ;-) |
Dirk Sadowski Send message Joined: 6 Apr 07 Posts: 7105 Credit: 147,663,825 RAC: 5 |
BOINC-message: 'server rejected file' and then a 'validate error'! :-( http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/workunit.php?wuid=137017088 |
John Neale Send message Joined: 16 Mar 00 Posts: 634 Credit: 7,246,513 RAC: 9 |
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Karl H. Kruhoffer Send message Joined: 17 Apr 00 Posts: 32 Credit: 4,972,575 RAC: 0 |
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W-K 666 Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 19398 Credit: 40,757,560 RAC: 67 |
Could be because you are using old ver of Chicken soup. Try using a 2.2B version. Andy |
Dirk Sadowski Send message Joined: 6 Apr 07 Posts: 7105 Credit: 147,663,825 RAC: 5 |
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Dirk Sadowski Send message Joined: 6 Apr 07 Posts: 7105 Credit: 147,663,825 RAC: 5 |
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Kall Send message Joined: 5 Dec 02 Posts: 5 Credit: 7,791,570 RAC: 0 |
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Karl H. Kruhoffer Send message Joined: 17 Apr 00 Posts: 32 Credit: 4,972,575 RAC: 0 |
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[DPC] hansR Send message Joined: 14 Jul 00 Posts: 47 Credit: 235,829,569 RAC: 8 |
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=570286921 |
Karl H. Kruhoffer Send message Joined: 17 Apr 00 Posts: 32 Credit: 4,972,575 RAC: 0 |
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Zentrallabor Send message Joined: 8 Jan 00 Posts: 6 Credit: 70,525 RAC: 0 |
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/workunit.php?wuid=142047896 Hi, this WU has no validate error but remarkable "Compute error"s. All 3 error-results were crunched by PowerMacs! The following "normal" results were produced by Intel/AMD-machines. Is there a bug in the PowerMac-Seti-app? Can we trust the other results? Greets from Germany |
Jim-R. Send message Joined: 7 Feb 06 Posts: 1494 Credit: 194,148 RAC: 0 |
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/workunit.php?wuid=142047896 First, there does seem to be a bug in the Mac 5.21 apps that affects a large number of computers. There are only about 11000 computers crunching in the beta test, and among those, only about three percent are Macs like these. So statistically there would not have been many errors in Beta, and surely not enough to notice the tie between the errors and the Mac app. There were so few reporting that it didn't show up as significant until we got here with it where there are a lot more Macs to run it on. There are more Macs here than all of the Beta computers put together! The other three results should be valid. The system does work at weeding out bad work and only allowing good results into the database. Jim Some people plan their life out and look back at the wealth they've had. Others live life day by day and look back at the wealth of experiences and enjoyment they've had. |
Karl H. Kruhoffer Send message Joined: 17 Apr 00 Posts: 32 Credit: 4,972,575 RAC: 0 |
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