Can't talk.. Debugging.. (May 15 2007)

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KWSN THE Holy Hand Grenade! Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 20 Dec 05 Posts: 3187 Credit: 57,163,290 RAC: 0	Message 569069 - Posted: 17 May 2007, 1:03:59 UTC - in response to Message 568679. WARNING! 5.9.10 is in beta testing... and is unstable, and (probably) contains bugs! Use only if you have no choice! (like you run Win XP Pro x64, or Win Vista x64... where 5.9.10 is the only official 64 bit version available) (there is a 64 bit version of 5.4.11 out there... but it's not from Berkeley) Not only that! I'm not sure, but It seems as there isn't any S@H client for that version! Probably, on 64 bit platforms, you'll be able to use 32 bit applications (on "compatibility" emmulation or similar). yes, you can... no emulation required... (the OS shifts the 64 bit chip back and forth between 64 and 32 bit modes) all 64 bit InteÃ‚Â£ and AMD chips still have the full 32 bit instructions, after all... (as well as 16 bit and 8 bit instructions!) There's just a touch of overhead for the CPU to make the mode change... . Hello, from Albany, CA!... ID: 569069 ·

KWSN THE Holy Hand Grenade! Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 20 Dec 05 Posts: 3187 Credit: 57,163,290 RAC: 0	Message 569071 - Posted: 17 May 2007, 1:06:24 UTC - in response to Message 568701. just a thought: what about using the old servers just switched off as a load balancer and one or two extra upload/download servers? given that the storage array can keep up with it, that should decrease the dropped packets and take us out of the woods... mic. Good idea!... mhhh... mhhh... Have they space enought? I remember that those servers went off to let space enought for Thumper, Sidious, bla, bla, bla. Maybe they need a new cabin. Umm, as I understand it, they've been assigned certain rooms by UC Berkeley, and can't expand out of them! . Hello, from Albany, CA!... ID: 569071 ·

KWSN THE Holy Hand Grenade! Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 20 Dec 05 Posts: 3187 Credit: 57,163,290 RAC: 0	Message 569072 - Posted: 17 May 2007, 1:09:13 UTC - in response to Message 568721. Last modified: 17 May 2007, 1:21:57 UTC Really interesting. Frankenserver... Maybe they can build any kind of MainFrame for high computing proceses! (Based on Intel's 286, 386, 486, Pentium I, II, III, IV, etc...) je je je Hey, anyone (other than me) ever see a 186? I still have one, although it hasn't done anything for a couple of years... . Hello, from Albany, CA!... ID: 569072 ·

Brian Silvers Send message Joined: 11 Jun 99 Posts: 1681 Credit: 492,052 RAC: 0	Message 569080 - Posted: 17 May 2007, 1:15:25 UTC - in response to Message 569072. Hey, anyone other than me ever see a 186? Last time I saw 186, I think I was in 6th grade :( ID: 569080 ·

KWSN THE Holy Hand Grenade! Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 20 Dec 05 Posts: 3187 Credit: 57,163,290 RAC: 0	Message 569085 - Posted: 17 May 2007, 1:17:27 UTC - in response to Message 568927. Last modified: 17 May 2007, 1:27:07 UTC I hate getting my technical news on a message board. While it's interesting, to be blunt, I don't have the time to wade through hundreds of posts to find out what's going on. Please continue to update the "technical news" page with at least a summary of what's going on. Just my 2 cents worth Meteor Wayne Just read the top post of each thread! . Hello, from Albany, CA!... ID: 569085 ·

KWSN THE Holy Hand Grenade! Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 20 Dec 05 Posts: 3187 Credit: 57,163,290 RAC: 0	Message 569104 - Posted: 17 May 2007, 1:25:21 UTC - in response to Message 569080. Hey, anyone (other than me) ever see a 186? Last time I saw 186, I think I was in 6th grade :( Looks like a 286, only slower than most 286's (they stayed at 8 Mhz)... they were used for dedicated applications. The one I have is on a SCSI card, (SCSI-2, 50 HD pins) no longer in my computer. . Hello, from Albany, CA!... ID: 569104 ·

Brian Silvers Send message Joined: 11 Jun 99 Posts: 1681 Credit: 492,052 RAC: 0	Message 569111 - Posted: 17 May 2007, 1:33:37 UTC - in response to Message 569104. Hey, anyone (other than me) ever see a 186? Last time I saw 186, I think I was in 6th grade :( Looks like a 286, only slower than most 286's (they stayed at 8 Mhz)... they were used for dedicated applications. The one I have is on a SCSI card, (SCSI-2, 50 HD pins) no longer in my computer. I know... I was making a self-depreciating remark about my weight (in pounds, for those of you who might be thinking I'm over 186 kilos...LOL). I can remember using 286 machines in school...but that's as far back as I go, except for the C= 64 ID: 569111 ·

Y & J Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 14 Nov 01 Posts: 15 Credit: 215,639 RAC: 0	Message 569126 - Posted: 17 May 2007, 1:55:08 UTC Everything is working good here on the east coast (Hurricane alley that is) All wu's have uploaded on all computers for both Seti & Seti beta. Got new wu's per pref's. Great Job Guys, time to take a few days off with "Pay" to compensate for all the "OT" you have in the bank. [color= blue][u]SETI@home classic workunits = 5,906 with CPU time of 60,377 hours[/u][/color] ID: 569126 ·

Grant (SSSF) Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 19 Aug 99 Posts: 13864 Credit: 208,696,464 RAC: 304	Message 569129 - Posted: 17 May 2007, 2:07:01 UTC - in response to Message 569126. Everything is working good here on the east coast (Hurricane alley that is) All wu's have uploaded on all computers for both Seti & Seti beta. Got new wu's per pref's. Still very hit & miss for the rest of the world though. Grant Darwin NT ID: 569129 ·

William Roeder Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 19 May 99 Posts: 69 Credit: 523,414 RAC: 0	Message 569133 - Posted: 17 May 2007, 2:13:54 UTC - in response to Message 569129. Everything is working good here on the east coast (Hurricane alley that is) All wu's have uploaded on all computers for both Seti & Seti beta. Got new wu's per pref's. Still very hit & miss for the rest of the world though. Was able to DL WUs 2 days ago. Was able to UL results today for the first time. The network graph shows massive increase in outgoing data: http://fragment1.berkeley.edu/newcricket/grapher.cgi?target=%2Frouter-interfaces%2Finr-250%2Fgigabitethernet2_3;view=Octets;ranges=d Things are coming back to normal. ID: 569133 ·

archae86 Send message Joined: 31 Aug 99 Posts: 909 Credit: 1,582,816 RAC: 0	Message 569150 - Posted: 17 May 2007, 2:34:04 UTC - in response to Message 569072. Last modified: 17 May 2007, 2:43:01 UTC Hey, anyone (other than me) ever see a 186? I still have one, although it hasn't done anything for a couple of years... Yes, I've seen a 186. I also was the product definition team leader for a few months in 1978. For those with short memories, that was long before the IBM PC came out, which may help you understand that winning desktop PC sockets was no part of our goal at the time. From the beginning, the idea was of a "highly integrated" 8086, with the goal of system cost reduction. Originally this was understood to include a fair amount of onboard ROM (a la 8048). Happily that went by the wayside after I left the product definition effort (I had trouble making people understand that because of die size/yield issue, the CPU was the [by]most expensive[/b] possible place in the system to put ROM). Oddly enough, the integration feature of the 186 which proved most useful got little attention and less respect at the time. I suggested that chip select was a universal small system function that might benefit from integration, and Jim Klovstad figured out an implementation that actually got used in a fair fraction of systems. A few generations ago, I think many of the Garmin GPS units used a 186 implementation (probably a CMOS nth generation, not the original depletion-load NMOS one), so you may have been closer to a 186 than you realize. ID: 569150 ·

OzzFan Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 9 Apr 02 Posts: 15691 Credit: 84,761,841 RAC: 28	Message 569152 - Posted: 17 May 2007, 2:41:15 UTC - in response to Message 569150. Yes, I've seen a 186. I also was the product definition team leader for a few months in 1988. For those with short memories, that was long before the IBM PC came out, which may help you understand that winning desktop PC sockets was no part of our goal at the time. Which IBM PC are you referring to? The original IBM PC, the 5150, was introduced on August 12th, 1981. ID: 569152 ·

archae86 Send message Joined: 31 Aug 99 Posts: 909 Credit: 1,582,816 RAC: 0	Message 569154 - Posted: 17 May 2007, 2:44:21 UTC - in response to Message 569152. Which IBM PC are you referring to? The original IBM PC, the 5150, was introduced on August 12th, 1981. Well I'm referring to the original PC, but my post mis-dated my 80186 involvement by a decade--it was in 1978, not 1988. Thanks, and I apologize for a senior moment. I've edited my post to correct this decade. ID: 569154 ·

OzzFan Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 9 Apr 02 Posts: 15691 Credit: 84,761,841 RAC: 28	Message 569156 - Posted: 17 May 2007, 2:46:47 UTC - in response to Message 569154. Which IBM PC are you referring to? The original IBM PC, the 5150, was introduced on August 12th, 1981. Well I'm referring to the original PC, but my post mis-dated my 80186 involvement by a decade--it was in 1978, not 1988. Thanks, and I apologize for a senior moment. I've edited my post to correct this decade. Oh! OK LOL You had me confused there for a moment! ;-) ID: 569156 ·

WA1NH Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 16 May 99 Posts: 1 Credit: 146,348 RAC: 0	Message 569170 - Posted: 17 May 2007, 3:33:37 UTC Last modified: 17 May 2007, 3:40:33 UTC WOW. Just looked at my account page. Been with seti for eight years TODAY. Happy Anniversary Seti ID: 569170 ·

Fuzzy Hollynoodles Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 3 Apr 99 Posts: 9659 Credit: 251,998 RAC: 0	Message 569175 - Posted: 17 May 2007, 3:56:49 UTC - in response to Message 569170. WOW. Just looked at my account page. Been with seti for eight years TODAY. Happy Anniversary Seti Congratulations and welcome to the boards, WA1NH. :-) "I'm trying to maintain a shred of dignity in this world." - Me ID: 569175 ·

HachPi Send message Joined: 2 Aug 99 Posts: 481 Credit: 21,807,425 RAC: 21	Message 569215 - Posted: 17 May 2007, 5:06:00 UTC - in response to Message 569004. Now I get this??? Any ideas ?? [...] 5/16/2007 10:04:57 PM\|SETI@home\|Scheduler RPC succeeded [server version 509] 5/16/2007 10:04:57 PM\|SETI@home\|Message from server: Completed result 16fe05ab.10775.2368.859632.3.29_0 refused: result already reported as success [...] No need to worry. You had successfully reported these results earlier. But because we have/had dropping connections your client didn't get the scheduler reply which would have told it that the report was successfull. Regards, Carsten Thanks Carsten, Greetings from Belgium, HP ;-)) ID: 569215 ·

Macroman1 Send message Joined: 30 May 99 Posts: 67 Credit: 12,532,684 RAC: 0	Message 569217 - Posted: 17 May 2007, 5:13:19 UTC - in response to Message 569072. Really interesting. Frankenserver... Maybe they can build any kind of MainFrame for high computing proceses! (Based on Intel's 286, 386, 486, Pentium I, II, III, IV, etc...) je je je Hey, anyone (other than me) ever see a 186? I still have one, although it hasn't done anything for a couple of years... Haven't seen one of those since I worked for Tektronix. The 4100 series terminals were 80186 based. "Gentlemen, there are only two types of naval vessels..........Submarines, and Targets" -- U.S. Navy Submarine SONAR Instructor. ID: 569217 ·

Niranjan Send message Joined: 5 Apr 07 Posts: 2 Credit: 10,465 RAC: 0	Message 569230 - Posted: 17 May 2007, 5:38:48 UTC - in response to Message 568591. Its all ok guys... Keep up your good work... Iam new to SETI and was a hard core cruncher.... bit worried about losing grade in the stats list... I have a problem... Work datas are being downloaded... but not completed... Can anyone tell me what happened??? Niranjan More than likely this is simply related to remaining issues from the outage. WUs have been assigned to you, but the connection for the actual download can't be established due to the traffic, etc. Just be patient, the team is clearly working hard and the best thing we can do is be patient and not update/retry all the time since that only compounds the problem. Thanks a lot... Got a new WU.... ID: 569230 ·

Nick Fox Send message Joined: 5 Jan 04 Posts: 46 Credit: 2,834,922 RAC: 0	Message 569259 - Posted: 17 May 2007, 6:39:11 UTC - in response to Message 569072. Really interesting. Frankenserver... Maybe they can build any kind of MainFrame for high computing proceses! (Based on Intel's 286, 386, 486, Pentium I, II, III, IV, etc...) je je je Hey, anyone (other than me) ever see a 186? I still have one, although it hasn't done anything for a couple of years... Yep! I worked on one running MPM around 1984! ID: 569259 ·

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