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OzzFan ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 9 Apr 02 Posts: 15691 Credit: 84,761,841 RAC: 28 ![]() ![]() |
Hey guys. Got my systems waiting for the work. As it takes nothing from me to wait for the work and really no skin off my nose. Thanks for all your efforts on this! I wish a few more people would have your attitude about it. It seems some people think that if they can't get work, the world is going to end or there is a financial loss of some kind on their part. I'll never understand what the big deal is. |
Alinator Send message Joined: 19 Apr 05 Posts: 4178 Credit: 4,647,982 RAC: 0 ![]() |
LOL... Amen to that! My hosts have just told me they're all willing to wait until the cows come home to get another SAH result to chew on (if that's what it takes), and in the mean time have plenty of work to keep the CPU pegged at 100%. :-) A couple of my slugs told me, "Yeah, right! I couldn't deal with a SAH right now, even if I wanted to!" ;-) Alinator |
![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 23 May 99 Posts: 288 Credit: 18,101,056 RAC: 0 ![]() |
Umm... yes, Sun Microsystems HQ is down in Silicon Valley... but (as I understand it...) the System is being shipped from the factory, which is in Tennesee! (probably by truck...) Just ignore the idiot - he has no clue about which he speaks. FWIW, his use of the title Rev. would be illegal in any decent country. ;) Be lucky Neil ![]() |
1mp0£173 Send message Joined: 3 Apr 99 Posts: 8423 Credit: 356,897 RAC: 0 ![]() |
Hey guys. Got my systems waiting for the work. As it takes nothing from me to wait for the work and really no skin off my nose. Thanks for all your efforts on this! I can definitely understand how someone with a purpose-built crunching farm would get a little antszy about work -- after all, you can easily figure 1 to 2 KWH/day per high-performance system. ... but SETI never asked them to build a farm specifically for SETI, and the machines could be turned off to save power, or they could run another project (like Einstein) with a low resource share for just this kind of event. Personally, my crunchers are all on anyway -- for example, I have a dedicated machine for web stats that also pops out a work unit every 170,000 seconds or so. |
Urs Echternacht ![]() Send message Joined: 15 May 99 Posts: 692 Credit: 135,197,781 RAC: 211 ![]() ![]() |
Timing ? FedEx transports a truckload ca. 4000 miles across the USA on the ground ? That is crazy, i think. Wouldn't it be cheaper for FedEx to lift that cargo onto a plane, fly the load to a CA Airport and deliver from there ? I know, we are not waiting for a complete truckload. _\|/_ U r s |
1mp0£173 Send message Joined: 3 Apr 99 Posts: 8423 Credit: 356,897 RAC: 0 ![]() |
Timing ? The odds are fairly good that it's going at least part way by train, not truck. Ground transportation is cheaper than air, especially for heavy items, and I'll bet this little puppy is heavy. |
Alinator Send message Joined: 19 Apr 05 Posts: 4178 Credit: 4,647,982 RAC: 0 ![]() |
About 170 pounds max according to the spec sheet. |
![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 30 Nov 03 Posts: 66513 Credit: 55,293,173 RAC: 49 ![]() ![]() |
Hey guys. Got my systems waiting for the work. As it takes nothing from me to wait for the work and really no skin off my nose. Thanks for all your efforts on this! I hear Ya Ned, I just re-aim the PCs to other projects when Seti is like this, So It's not a big deal and It shouldn't be either. CA HSR built a foundation, is laying Track! PRR T1 Class 4-4-4-4 #5550 Loco, US's 1st HST ![]() |
Urs Echternacht ![]() Send message Joined: 15 May 99 Posts: 692 Credit: 135,197,781 RAC: 211 ![]() ![]() |
About 170 pounds max according to the spec sheet. Without hdd's ? That's appr. 77kg max. Not to heavy for air transport. I actually have no idea about transportation costs in and across the USA. Can anyone give some examples (Something like: what costs 100kg (220 pounds) load from New York to L.A. or same load from Seattle to New Orleans ?) _\|/_ U r s |
![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 15 Feb 07 Posts: 27 Credit: 50,586 RAC: 0 ![]() |
Have you considered an ethernet modem? Those are available now.[/quote] Have you not considered there are still some out here using Windows 95 and at least one I know of on Windows 3.11, never mind the fact that here in the UK BT still have large tracks of the country on dial-up. What difference will an ethernet modem make to send/recieve speeds. I am just an old fuddy duddy I know but are you really that gen'd up. Sorry but somethings need to not just be in the right forum but also correct. Baz Alien Pet Lover |
OzzFan ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 9 Apr 02 Posts: 15691 Credit: 84,761,841 RAC: 28 ![]() ![]() |
I can definitely understand how someone with a purpose-built crunching farm would get a little antszy about work -- after all, you can easily figure 1 to 2 KWH/day per high-performance system. I understand the angle of purposely built systems and getting upset because their idle too, but again, as you said yourself, they did not of their own volition. SETI did not ask for it. I personally don't believe that their own good will is enough to get mad over. I think there's many more important things to get mad about in life, not a little bit of wasted electricity. |
1mp0£173 Send message Joined: 3 Apr 99 Posts: 8423 Credit: 356,897 RAC: 0 ![]() |
Have you considered an ethernet modem? Those are available now. One side plugs into an ethernet port on the computer, and the other plugs into a phone line. You use a web browser to configure it with dialup number, user name, password, etc. When your computer tries to connect via Ethernet to something "out there" it goes to the modem, and the modem dials-out. It hangs up after some inactivity. The best thing about these gadgets is that they are completely OS-neutral. The computer thinks it has a really slow hard-wired connection to the net. You can even use these to share a dialup line between several machines. The reason Mr. Ribbeck is complaining is that BOINC does not always provoke the Windows dialer properly. This bypasses the issue completely. |
Loki Send message Joined: 3 Apr 99 Posts: 8 Credit: 4,777,191 RAC: 0 ![]() |
"In case you don't know the replacement server will arrive on Friday." Wow, You seem to be the kind of person I'd never want to have dealings with. The good folks at setiathome are working hard to keep things running on a very limited budget. The way you are ranting it sounds like you think they OWE you something. If you don't like it you can always join a different project. I'm always amazed at how people who contribute spare cpu cycles suddenly thing they own the project rather than are contributing of their free will. sigh. ![]() If you are a Formula 1 fan visit my website at F1 NEWS |
Haos.PL Send message Joined: 18 Mar 04 Posts: 63 Credit: 3,268,546 RAC: 0 ![]() |
24tb? In a few years this is gonna be one HDD.. Remember the times when 20-40 MB hdd was impossible to be filled? How long it took to jump from 120-160MB to 120-160GB? Tens of terabytes is just a few steps ahead. |
![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 25 May 99 Posts: 944 Credit: 52,956,491 RAC: 67 ![]() ![]() |
"In case you don't know the replacement server will arrive on Friday." Please rearrange this well-known phrase: life get a Happier now? ![]() ![]() |
![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 15 Feb 07 Posts: 27 Credit: 50,586 RAC: 0 ![]() |
[quote]Have you considered an ethernet modem? Those are available now. The best thing about these gadgets is that they are completely OS-neutral. The computer thinks it has a really slow hard-wired connection to the net. You can even use these to share a dialup line between several machines. Told you I was just an old Fuddy Duddy. Accept my apologies for being in the wrong Baz Alien Pet Lover |
1mp0£173 Send message Joined: 3 Apr 99 Posts: 8423 Credit: 356,897 RAC: 0 ![]() |
[quote]Have you considered an ethernet modem? Those are available now. No problem -- I should have explained them a little more clearly in the first message. |
![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 20 Dec 05 Posts: 3187 Credit: 57,163,290 RAC: 0 ![]() |
"In case you don't know the replacement server will arrive on Friday." Hey, I almost bought a house on a street like that... . ![]() Hello, from Albany, CA!... |
![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 20 Dec 05 Posts: 3187 Credit: 57,163,290 RAC: 0 ![]() |
Timing ? I'll answer this (564695) and ned ledd's (564696) at one go... There are now three buisnesses running under the "FedEx" banner - and they operate in different ways! 1) FedEx (the original) (Logo is navy blue/orange) the air package shipping company 2) FedEx Ground (Logo is light blue/green) As implied, this is a ground shipping company (originally Purolator Courier) that ships everything on trucks, nationwide. 3) FedEx Freight (logo is Navy blue/light blue) Also ships everything by truck, main difference is that this division won't take anything smaller than a freight pallet. (originally Watkins Freight) The most likely portion of these three for the server to be taking is FedEx Ground... with FedEx Freight the other possibility. The conglomerate was formed by aquisitions of Purolator Courier (Ground) and Watkins Freight Lines (Freight). Ground and Freight are run seperately, BTW Big rig Trucker... Nedd, FedEx (any part!) does not ship by train... (they don't own a railroad...) . ![]() Hello, from Albany, CA!... |
![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 20 Dec 05 Posts: 3187 Credit: 57,163,290 RAC: 0 ![]() |
Timing ? Oh, Yeah... Urs, depending on route, that's only 2500-3k miles, depending on whether (and where) they routed around the current mid-west floods . ![]() Hello, from Albany, CA!... |
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