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Message 592559 - Posted: 25 Jun 2007, 22:00:29 UTC
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Nazca Lines:

LAT: 14°42'14.23"S
LON: 75° 7'37.79"W

Google Earth bookmark for download:

Nazca_Lines.kmz

jUST DOWNLOAD AND CLICK. iT WILL OPEN gOOGLE eARTH AND TAKE YOU TO MY BOOKMARK. lOOK FOR all of the little <i> buttons near my bookmark.

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Message 592565 - Posted: 25 Jun 2007, 22:13:01 UTC
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ML1:

Did you miss this?


Hynek was one of your champions for project Blue Book. The famous "Swamp Gas" guy, lol.


And what of these Military and NASA/JPL/CIA/FBI/NSA employees?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pgO2HQ_42xo

Are they all a bunch of lying lunatics looking for that last pay check?



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Message 592619 - Posted: 26 Jun 2007, 0:43:11 UTC
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MrGray, Labbie thank you!

Sarge,
Maybe the "cover-up" is best tool most governments and big corporations use. Isn't 10 bilion $ company big? Especially in economic and political sectors cover-up is used constantly and vastly.

Let me reveal one perfect cover-up for you:

POSSIBLY REFERS TO BBC

POSSIBLY REFERS TO CNN

Should I believe in CNN and BBC or personal witnesses like these. I think even CNN and BBC do perfect cover-ups maybe on daily basis as these two facts prove, Open your EYEs Sarge. ;)





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Message 592628 - Posted: 26 Jun 2007, 0:49:18 UTC - in response to Message 592619.  
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Should I believe in CNN and BBC or personal witnesses like these. I think even CNN and BBC do perfect cover-ups, Open your EYEs Sarge. ;)

Read my message again before you suggest I open my eyes.
In addition, I had heard of the Nazca Lines long before I saw them shown on TV in 1999. In neither case was I looking to find something supposedly hidden. You might also want to see my links in the Cafe area on archaeological finds. Hmmm, NASA publicly releasing info to corroborate things once believed to be myths. Sounds like some things are being uncovered.
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Message 592641 - Posted: 26 Jun 2007, 1:10:33 UTC
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It was all about cover-ups. And your first comment was some good try of teaching on cover-ups.

If public news medias are so much mastered in cover ups like this way the last resort is becoming private witnesses at least in our "unidentified sector".
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Message 592646 - Posted: 26 Jun 2007, 1:18:01 UTC - in response to Message 592641.  
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It was all about cover-ups.

If public news medias are so much mastered in cover ups like this way the last resort is becoming private witnesses at least in our "unidentified sector".


Both individuals and groups can be trustworthy or untrustworthy.
And my main point is while other things may be getting covered up, I do not understand why you think the Nazca Lines have been covered up just because you had trouble finding them on Google Earth. Next time you misplace your keys, call that a cover-up, too! I've given you two pieces of evidence that knowledge about the Nazca Lines has not been covered up. I am an individual, not associated with media or government, so you should believe me. ;)
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Message 592648 - Posted: 26 Jun 2007, 1:24:37 UTC
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Some case on Google Earth:

I heard officially area 51 doesn't exist in any organizational list in america but google earth is showing a51. So is Google making cover-ups or is public reference list? Does Google need to involve into unproven case like this or what is going on?
[quote]... Sounds like some things are being uncovered.
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Message 592653 - Posted: 26 Jun 2007, 1:37:58 UTC - in response to Message 592648.  

Some case on Google Earth:

I heard officially area 51 doesn't exist in any organizational list in america but google earth is showing a51. So is Google making cover-ups or is public reference list? Does Google need to involve into unproven case like this or what is going on?


If Google Earth is showing Area 51, then that says it is not participating in its cover-up. Of course, that does not mean they do not cover-up some other things, though. I make no claims as to whether or not they do.
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Message 592658 - Posted: 26 Jun 2007, 1:44:43 UTC - in response to Message 592653.  
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Some case on Google Earth:

I heard officially area 51 doesn't exist in any organizational list in america but google earth is showing a51. So is Google making cover-ups or is public reference list? Does Google need to involve into unproven case like this or what is going on?


If Google Earth is showing Area 51, then that says it is not participating in its cover-up. Of course, that does not mean they do not cover-up some other things, though. I make no claims as to whether or not they do.


Which means GE pics are unproven on certain probable cases! ;)

so are nazca images through GE 100% correct or not, no one knows (well according to my point of view).
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Message 592678 - Posted: 26 Jun 2007, 2:17:55 UTC - in response to Message 592532.  

Has anybody found nazca site through google earth? An year ago I tried for few days around peru and could not find.

Maybe if there were too much questionable evidences in nazca lines in satellite pictures, google might be airbrushed too or doesn't want to make those images public.

it is in german and ich no sprache deutsche. :(

Nazca in German


If you type in "Nazca Lines" in the search bar you will be taken to a point a good distance northeast from the actual Nazca site. First, type in "nazca lines",, when that "flight" is finished then type in "Nazca, Condor" and you should be right in the middle of it. There are many markers for the different figures.

They are visible, but nearly as big as von Daniken and others have led you to believe.




If memory serves me correctly, these things ARE big, there are several of them ... and I would not be surprised if they are spread out over several miles. So it does not surprise me that Google Earth could not come up with something showing up at one particular location, if there are indeed several locations within a radius of many miles.

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Message 592681 - Posted: 26 Jun 2007, 2:32:46 UTC
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I measured longest looking 3 lines those are 10km, 9km and 10km long and perfectly aligns with ruler.

Can mayans possibly build these perfectly straight long lines and do any other ancient civilizations have this grand scale of geometric perfection example.
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Message 592686 - Posted: 26 Jun 2007, 2:48:50 UTC - in response to Message 592646.  

It was all about cover-ups.

If public news medias are so much mastered in cover ups like this way the last resort is becoming private witnesses at least in our "unidentified sector".


Both individuals and groups can be trustworthy or untrustworthy.
And my main point is while other things may be getting covered up, I do not understand why you think the Nazca Lines have been covered up just because you had trouble finding them on Google Earth. Next time you misplace your keys, call that a cover-up, too! I've given you two pieces of evidence that knowledge about the Nazca Lines has not been covered up. I am an individual, not associated with media or government, so you should believe me. ;)
( Labbie, a little help here, if possible, please? Unless you disagree with me. :) )


I do agree with you Sarge, but I think Orgil was being facetious in his original remark that GE was covering up the Nazca lines (but I could be wrong about that).

Do I think that GE has "covered up" the Nasca lines? No. Are they completely acurate? I don't know, I've never been there. I do know they Nazca images are not nearly as large as some have made them out to be. In the image I posted previously the condor is visible, but it is at a zoom level of about 2000 feet, over a plain that has an elevation of 1500 feet. Not visible at all from space. Are they an interesting feature the ancients made? Yes. Are they markers for an alien landing site? I doubt it.

Do I think GE is covering up Area 51? No. I've seen other pictures taken from Freedom Ridge purporting to be Area 51 that match what GE shows pretty well. They know when the satellites are coming over and make sure nothing is visible at those times. The almost 5 mile long runway is a dead giveaway.

Why isn't Area 51 listed in any organizational list in America? Because it is officially part of Nellis Air Force Base and is designated as S-4 and S-5. I don't know where the Area 51 name came from.

Do I think the US Government and other governments are covering up some things about UFOs? Yes. Do I believe they are all alien ships? No. Do I hope that some of them are alien ships? Yes. But I also do not believe every single video that is posted here are alien ships.

Cover ups and conspiracies are what you make of them. If you believe in one, I'm not going to change your mind. It's just like religion. It's faith, not facts.


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Message 592691 - Posted: 26 Jun 2007, 2:58:35 UTC
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Maybe 1-2 billion people who watch BBC and CNN believe or want to believe that they are happily following credible information sources. But I just showed you what reality they are covering up.

Maybe the cover up is the most sophisticated game.

Since the thread is called "Ufo stuffs" in "Science" section, I think most of the posts in here were directly or indirectly dealing with cover ups.
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Message 592693 - Posted: 26 Jun 2007, 3:02:14 UTC - in response to Message 592691.  

Maybe 1-2 billion people who watch BBC and CNN believe or want to believe that they are happily following credible information sources. But I just showed you what reality they are covering up.

Maybe the cover up is the most sophisticated game.


Who said the BBC and CNN were credible news sources? Certainly not me. They are two of the most agenda driven networks in existence.


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Message 592783 - Posted: 26 Jun 2007, 9:04:54 UTC
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Message 592929 - Posted: 26 Jun 2007, 14:34:59 UTC - in response to Message 592681.  

I measured longest looking 3 lines those are 10km, 9km and 10km long and perfectly aligns with ruler.

Can mayans possibly build these perfectly straight long lines and do any other ancient civilizations have this grand scale of geometric perfection example.

The Romans and Egyptians did it.

We do it still today, and by still using similar tools that rely on crude visual "line of sight" tools. The only 'magic' involved is in taking care over making the sightings.


It's all very simple.

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I measured longest looking 3 lines those are 10km, 9km and 10km long and perfectly aligns with ruler.

Can mayans possibly build these perfectly straight long lines and do any other ancient civilizations have this grand scale of geometric perfection example.

The Romans and Egyptians did it.

We do it still today, and by still using similar tools that rely on crude visual "line of sight" tools. The only 'magic' involved is in taking care over making the sightings.


It's all very simple.

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My point was referring to ancient civilizations and I think greeks and romans at best built 1-2km straight sites right? With egyptians I am not sure, their ancient temple roofs and sphinks foundation board maybe 200-500m straight at best.

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Message 592957 - Posted: 26 Jun 2007, 15:15:54 UTC - in response to Message 592693.  
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Maybe 1-2 billion people who watch BBC and CNN believe or want to believe that they are happily following credible information sources. But I just showed you what reality they are covering up.

Maybe the cover up is the most sophisticated game.


Who said the BBC and CNN were credible news sources? Certainly not me. They are two of the most agenda driven networks in existence.


From inside cultural point of view you can easily determine their flaws but for outsiders it is really difficult. That is why cnn and bbc managed to cover over billion minds and mastering cover-ups. ;)

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Message 592987 - Posted: 26 Jun 2007, 15:53:22 UTC - in response to Message 592955.  

My point was referring to ancient civilizations and I think greeks and romans at best built 1-2km straight sites right? With egyptians I am not sure, their ancient temple roofs and sphinks foundation board maybe 200-500m straight at best.

Why stop there...

Take a look at their roads and aqueducts if you want greater lengths...

Also for another example, take a look at the underground aqueducts in Morocco...


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Message 593018 - Posted: 26 Jun 2007, 16:40:58 UTC
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You are losing the point I know aqueduct is ancient engineering marvel. The interesting point is whether any aqueduct part able to be stretched for few kilometers as precisely straight? It is clear that depending on geographic terrain mostly romans did not need to build too long straight aqueduct parts.

From sat image I can determine and measure nazca line that it is strangely perfect straight and stretches 10 km's (6.22ml).

Maybe there was an experiment on easter island giant statues that people tried to carry those 50tn's of rocks which was possible so there might be someways on those lines too. But only by walking and without higher viewing which the conditions mayans supposedly built those.
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