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Message 536765 - Posted: 25 Mar 2007, 18:09:29 UTC

I've just returned the 4th result on this WU and all 4 results are marked as pending.

Result # 3 was returned @ 25 Mar 2007 16:45:20 UTC
Result # 4 (mine) was returned @ 25 Mar 2007 18:00:18 UTC.

Any ideas ?
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Message 536787 - Posted: 25 Mar 2007, 19:05:20 UTC - in response to Message 536765.  

I've just returned the 4th result on this WU and all 4 results are marked as pending.
Result # 3 was returned @ 25 Mar 2007 16:45:20 UTC
Result # 4 (mine) was returned @ 25 Mar 2007 18:00:18 UTC.
Any ideas ?

The info we see is not real time. It may have happened already but the screen may not have updated yet. Time is your friend.
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Message 536794 - Posted: 25 Mar 2007, 19:26:15 UTC - in response to Message 536787.  
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I've just returned the 4th result on this WU and all 4 results are marked as pending.
Result # 3 was returned @ 25 Mar 2007 16:45:20 UTC
Result # 4 (mine) was returned @ 25 Mar 2007 18:00:18 UTC.
Any ideas ?

The info we see is not real time. It may have happened already but the screen may not have updated yet. Time is your friend.


I know it is not real time, but usually it only takes 2 or 3 minutes to update after a quorum is met. I suspect that there may be a new problem happening here.

I am not greatly concerned about 12.8 credits, just pointing out that there may be a new problem develping at Berkeley.

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Message 536816 - Posted: 25 Mar 2007, 20:28:40 UTC

I was about to ask that as I have a few where the quorum has been met and all I get is pending.
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Message 536832 - Posted: 25 Mar 2007, 20:43:59 UTC

Yup, I have bunch like that. Look at the Server Status page and Workunits waiting for validation = 30,438. (Was 16k earlier today) So something is hung.
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Message 536899 - Posted: 25 Mar 2007, 22:28:45 UTC - in response to Message 536832.  

Yup, I have bunch like that. Look at the Server Status page and Workunits waiting for validation = 30,438. (Was 16k earlier today) So something is hung.

And the Validator processes are running on.....kryten!

Enough said.
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Message 537030 - Posted: 26 Mar 2007, 7:33:09 UTC

Kryten, senior moment, now up to 56k+.
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Message 537042 - Posted: 26 Mar 2007, 10:06:10 UTC - in response to Message 537030.  

Kryten, senior moment, now up to 56k+.

Now it is:
Workunits waiting for validation 59,161 2h
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Message 537060 - Posted: 26 Mar 2007, 11:36:49 UTC - in response to Message 537042.  

Kryten, senior moment, now up to 56k+.

Now it is:
Workunits waiting for validation 59,161 2h


Workunits waiting for validation 66,834 1h
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Message 537070 - Posted: 26 Mar 2007, 12:13:55 UTC

My 2 most recently reported results have validated a few minutes after reporting, but the original one in this thread is still waiting. I'm sure things will catch up in the next few hours, and at least it's better than seeing Validate errors. :-)
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Message 537096 - Posted: 26 Mar 2007, 13:36:36 UTC - in response to Message 537060.  

Kryten, senior moment, now up to 56k+.

Now it is:
Workunits waiting for validation 59,161 2h


Workunits waiting for validation 66,834 1h


73k last time I looked........
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Message 537160 - Posted: 26 Mar 2007, 17:18:44 UTC
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Database/file status
State # As of* 
Results ready to send 619,821 41m 
Current result creation rate 0.32/sec 1m 
Results in progress 1,534,578 41m 
Workunits waiting for validation [size=15][b]78,697[/b][/size] 41m 
Workunits waiting for assimilation 5 41m 
Workunits waiting for deletion 10 41m 
Results waiting for deletion 2 41m 
Transitioner backlog (hours) 0 41m 
* minutes (m) or hours (h) since last checked




HELP !!!!! ;-)


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Message 537165 - Posted: 26 Mar 2007, 17:32:40 UTC


Maybe it's better not to upload and report the results?
Because it's possible that some results will not validate correct?

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Message 537173 - Posted: 26 Mar 2007, 17:48:35 UTC - in response to Message 537160.  
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Database/file status
[...]
Workunits waiting for validation [size=15][b]78,697[/b][/size] 41m 
[...]


HELP !!!!! ;-)


So where were those Scarecrow graphs?

And how do they compare to previous panics?

Is this really a panic or is this all still just a Sunday afternoon picnic?

;-)

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Message 537178 - Posted: 26 Mar 2007, 17:58:42 UTC - in response to Message 537173.  

So where were those Scarecrow graphs?

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Message 537182 - Posted: 26 Mar 2007, 18:05:32 UTC - in response to Message 537165.  


Maybe it's better not to upload and report the results?
Because it's possible that some results will not validate correct?


How does one stop them from uploading/reporting?
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Message 537184 - Posted: 26 Mar 2007, 18:09:02 UTC

Easiest way is to suspend network activity, but you won't be able to DL new work then either.

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Message 537196 - Posted: 26 Mar 2007, 18:42:35 UTC - in response to Message 537184.  
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Easiest way is to suspend network activity, but you won't be able to DL new work then either.

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How did I know that was going to be the answer, lol.

Just a thought (they always get me in trouble).

Can I suspend network activity and when the WU is done processing, move the file do another directory so BOINC can't find it to upload, then when things are moving along, I can move them back so BOINC can find them to upload.

After I move it to a temp directory, I could resume network activity to get another WU?

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Message 537201 - Posted: 26 Mar 2007, 18:55:59 UTC

Hmmm... I never tried that, but my gut feeling is that would trash the result when the transfer is due to go and BOINC can't find the output file.

A better strategy might be to temporarily increase your CI, force an update, suspend network activity, and then set your CI back to normal. That way you'd have a temporary increase in the amount of work to cover you until they get the validator logjam cleared, and when the host reports the next time once you re-enable network activity it goes back to normal.

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Message 537205 - Posted: 26 Mar 2007, 19:08:21 UTC - in response to Message 537196.  
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Easiest way is to suspend network activity, but you won't be able to DL new work then either.

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How did I know that was going to be the answer, lol.

Just a thought (they always get me in trouble).

Can I suspend network activity and when the WU is done processing, move the file do another directory so BOINC can't find it to upload, then when things are moving along, I can move them back so BOINC can find them to upload.

After I move it to a temp directory, I could resume network activity to get another WU?


The validators (or at least some of them) are now working. The original WU in this thread passed validation a few hours ago. But they are running with a backlog.

I suggest you just let BOINC Manager run normally and everything will probably catch up in the next few hours (possibly days). If you mess with files that BOINC Manager expects to find, you may cause other problems. I wouldn't reccomend it.

There is currently a validator backlog of 78,697 (2h) and the upload/download server is currently disabled. [EDIT] Now working again.[/EDIT]
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