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Message 551672 - Posted: 23 Apr 2007, 15:39:24 UTC

Its sad that many people think that the Earth and universe are less than 10,000 years old. If that is true then how is it that we can see astronomical objects farther than 10,000 light years away? I love to stump creationists with that one.
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Message 551678 - Posted: 23 Apr 2007, 15:45:56 UTC - in response to Message 551672.  

Its sad that many people think that the Earth and universe are less than 10,000 years old. If that is true then how is it that we can see astronomical objects farther than 10,000 light years away? I love to stump creationists with that one.


According to Heinlein in his book "Job: A Comedy of Justice", it was made old.


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Message 551697 - Posted: 23 Apr 2007, 16:22:22 UTC - in response to Message 551672.  

Its sad that many people think that the Earth and universe are less than 10,000 years old. If that is true then how is it that we can see astronomical objects farther than 10,000 light years away? I love to stump creationists with that one.


Outside of the Bible, some have claimed tracing through the genealogies and other things provided that it shows creation occurred about 6000-7000 years ago. When I pointed this out to a friend with quite fundamentalist leanings, he responded: "That's not in the Bible." So, you will not necessarily find them believing the universe is less than 10000 years old.
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Message 551700 - Posted: 23 Apr 2007, 16:24:40 UTC - in response to Message 551672.  
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many people think that the Earth and universe are less than 10,000 years old.
I love to stump creationists with that one.

The first line of scripture reads 'In the beginning'...

...not 'On Jan. 1, 8000 BC'... ;)
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Message 552562 - Posted: 24 Apr 2007, 23:54:21 UTC - in response to Message 551700.  
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Message 553781 - Posted: 26 Apr 2007, 1:34:57 UTC - in response to Message 552562.  

Funny.
Last time I read the boards, months ago, people were trying to argue with Jeffrey. I come back and people are still trying to argue with Jeffrey.

One would think that by now people should have learned not to try to argue with Jeffrey. :p
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Message 554245 - Posted: 26 Apr 2007, 18:06:54 UTC - in response to Message 551157.  

Science seems to have become the enemy when a certain religion was so empowered as to believe it had all the answers, and had the right and duty to enforce all thought amongst it's members.


But not quite. And NONE of this issue and problem has anything to do with people 'knowing all the answers'....or having some sort of 'superior knowledge' over the rest of us. It's all of this belief..not part.. It's fundamentlly against reason.

Deal with it there, sir. And replace it with common sense, rational egoism. Let man be his master. Trust me, your woman will love you for it.
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Message 554252 - Posted: 26 Apr 2007, 18:34:10 UTC - in response to Message 554245.  

Trust me, your woman will love you for it.

If that were true, you wouldn't be spending so much time here... ;)
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Message 554273 - Posted: 26 Apr 2007, 19:29:02 UTC - in response to Message 554245.  

Science seems to have become the enemy when a certain religion was so empowered as to believe it had all the answers, and had the right and duty to enforce all thought amongst it's members.


But not quite. And NONE of this issue and problem has anything to do with people 'knowing all the answers'....or having some sort of 'superior knowledge' over the rest of us. It's all of this belief..not part.. It's fundamentlly against reason.

Deal with it there, sir. And replace it with common sense, rational egoism. Let man be his master. Trust me, your woman will love you for it.



Tell that to the millions killed for thinking differently or freely. Especially women.
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Message 554275 - Posted: 26 Apr 2007, 19:32:18 UTC - in response to Message 554273.  
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Science seems to have become the enemy when a certain religion was so empowered as to believe it had all the answers, and had the right and duty to enforce all thought amongst it's members.


But not quite. And NONE of this issue and problem has anything to do with people 'knowing all the answers'....or having some sort of 'superior knowledge' over the rest of us. It's all of this belief..not part.. It's fundamentlly against reason.

Deal with it there, sir. And replace it with common sense, rational egoism. Let man be his master. Trust me, your woman will love you for it.



Tell that to the millions killed for thinking differently or freely, or having the nerve to worship a different god, or propose a new theory, or publish a finding, or speak freely, or question a king or priest. Especially women.

"Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind." - Dr. Seuss
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Message 554277 - Posted: 26 Apr 2007, 19:33:53 UTC - in response to Message 554273.  
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Science seems to have become the enemy when a certain religion was so empowered as to believe it had all the answers, and had the right and duty to enforce all thought amongst it's members.


But not quite. And NONE of this issue and problem has anything to do with people 'knowing all the answers'....or having some sort of 'superior knowledge' over the rest of us. It's all of this belief..not part.. It's fundamentlly against reason.

Deal with it there, sir. And replace it with common sense, rational egoism. Let man be his master. Trust me, your woman will love you for it.



Tell that to the millions killed for thinking differently or freely. Especially women.



Precisely. What benefits all befallen people worldwide and without exception has been the influence of science and reason. There has been no force in history that liberates all individuals qua individual than the impetus of egoistic science.

I've never met a woman wearing a burkha that was an independent egoist.
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Message 554279 - Posted: 26 Apr 2007, 19:35:48 UTC

Sorry for the repeat,

Seti db seems to have glitched while I tried to modify my post.
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Message 554281 - Posted: 26 Apr 2007, 19:39:14 UTC - in response to Message 554279.  

Sorry for the repeat,

Seti db seems to have glitched while I tried to modify my post.

guess I missed it too...u still want that land I'm selling? It's a good deal. See my website. :-)
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Message 554322 - Posted: 26 Apr 2007, 21:05:08 UTC
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lol

Whats the cost, location, size, water rights, PERC, easment, utilities, zoning, prop tax rate?

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