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Message 22664 - Posted: 5 Sep 2004, 16:36:02 UTC
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UTC (GMT) seems the logical choice to me. International projects usually run on UTC just like they use English as the common language and SI units. All other time zones are referenced from GMT. GMT is never referenced from a time zone. Look at any time zone and it is defined as GMT +/- xxhours.

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Message 22665 - Posted: 5 Sep 2004, 16:37:35 UTC - in response to Message 22662.  

> GMT does not mean London, England. It refers to Greenwich, England, which
> defines the prime meridian (zero degrees longitude). From the Wikipedia (
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greenwich ):
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Give me a bloody break! Greenwich is a part of London, England which has grown so large (having 12,000,000 residents) that it has grown far past Greenwich! Try travelling for a change.
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Message 22669 - Posted: 5 Sep 2004, 16:45:18 UTC - in response to Message 22665.  

> Give me a bloody break! Greenwich is a part of London, England which has grown
> so large (having 12,000,000 residents) that it has grown far past Greenwich!
> Try travelling for a change.

Yep quite right Greenwich is an integral part of London.

For more info GMT has its own site at GMT

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Message 22670 - Posted: 5 Sep 2004, 16:45:54 UTC - in response to Message 22665.  

> > GMT does not mean London, England. It refers to Greenwich, England,
> which
> > defines the prime meridian (zero degrees longitude). From the Wikipedia
> (
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greenwich ):
> >
> Give me a bloody break! Greenwich is a part of London, England which has grown
> so large (having 12,000,000 residents) that it has grown far past Greenwich!
> Try travelling for a change.
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I've been there, Mr. Utzig. Watched the Changing of the Guard, paid homage at the tombs in Westminster Abbey, toured the Tower, and all the other good stuff.

If you're suggesting that GMT stands for "London Mean Time", then I'm not buying it. "London" starts with an "L", not a "G".

Good Day!

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Message 22675 - Posted: 5 Sep 2004, 16:58:52 UTC - in response to Message 22670.  


> I've been there, Mr. Utzig. Watched the Changing of the Guard, paid homage at
> the tombs in Westminster Abbey, toured the Tower, and all the other good
> stuff.

Good for you.

> If you're suggesting that GMT stands for "London Mean Time", then I'm not
> buying it. "London" starts with an "L", not a "G".
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All I was stating is that GMT is located in London England. Technically Greenwich, which is a part of London and only a district/suburb as, I imagine, it is not large enough to be its own borough. I find it incredible that if you have read my threads that you would come to the silly assumption after I spelt out Greenwich Mean Time that you assume I would mean London Time or something just as ludicrous.
> Good Day!
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> --Bill Z.
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Message 22723 - Posted: 5 Sep 2004, 18:39:19 UTC - in response to Message 22664.  

> UTC (GMT) seems the logical choice to me. International projects usually run
> on UTC just like they use English as the common language and SI units. All
> other time zones are referenced from GMT. GMT is never referenced from a time
> zone. Look at any time zone and it is defined as GMT +/- xxhours.

I agree completely with this.
S@H is a global project. As seen in our posts, time is already in UTC.
In USA, you're familiar with the abbreviation of PDT, EDT, ADT and MDT, maybe forgetting some of them?
As a lot of people are using this program are not from US, it is much more easier for all of us if using only 1 time standard, and just this standard is UTC.
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Message 22725 - Posted: 5 Sep 2004, 18:56:33 UTC

Heck, NO.

I think we should go by "TT" Tony Time and that no matter where I travel all projects everywhere should adjust to suit me. after all, shouldn't it all be about me?????? I know I think making everything everywhere about me would be the right thing to do. hehehe. I really want to embrace the me generation. Shouldn't the world really revolve around me anyway??? lol

NOTE: before anyone takes this seriously, I am only trying to lighten things up
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Message 22726 - Posted: 5 Sep 2004, 18:56:46 UTC

This has been largely discussed in that thread
http://setiweb.ssl.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=3252

Imagine SETI project is located in Russia and they post the following news

The server will be down at 2200 PETST

Those who are currently asking why to post using UTC time is important would say what the F... is PETST! and they would be the first to ask for news to be posted in UTC (or USA time...?) For me it's just about being logical when dealing with international communication.

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Message 22742 - Posted: 5 Sep 2004, 19:19:10 UTC
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How about this?

One world - one time

http://www.swatch.com/internettime/home.php

Regards from Braunschweig, Germany
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Message 22751 - Posted: 5 Sep 2004, 19:36:52 UTC

All this talk about time zones is dead boring and unintelligible. Down here in NZ we don't use time zones at all so we have no idea what you are all talking about!

Just remember that we are the first populated place on the planet to see the sun rise so we're ahead of all of you anyway! You can all just follow along after us. We lead, you follow!
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Message 22753 - Posted: 5 Sep 2004, 19:40:49 UTC - in response to Message 22742.  
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Message 22755 - Posted: 5 Sep 2004, 19:42:43 UTC - in response to Message 22751.  
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Message 22759 - Posted: 5 Sep 2004, 19:48:10 UTC - in response to Message 22755.  

> Strange, when I was in Taveuni, Fiji; they made the same claim and had a
> 'monument' to prove it.

I don't know if your jokking or not but if not I strongly recommand that you have a look at the world map at least once in you life. Jokking.
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Message 22764 - Posted: 5 Sep 2004, 19:53:59 UTC - in response to Message 22759.  
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Message 22771 - Posted: 5 Sep 2004, 20:02:15 UTC - in response to Message 22764.  

> Not joking at all as 180° longitude goes through Taveuni. Even bought a
> t-shirt when I was there that stated the fact and if it is stated on a
> t-shirt, then it is true.

Ha ha Actually I did cross the date line many times and it's always a great
moment. The passengers (most of them) just don't understand how it could be.
Last time I was in this part of the world we were scheduled to call at fiji
but we had to skip it due to rough weather. Too bad fiji is one of the few
island I haven't been...

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Message 22773 - Posted: 5 Sep 2004, 20:07:25 UTC - in response to Message 22663.  

Doh! That's the one I was thinking of. Thanks for the correction.


> > I'm pretty sure Nova Scotia also uses a half hour, or at least used to.
>
> Actually Nova Scotia uses Atlantic Time which is "on the hour" which is 1 hour
> ahead of the Eastern Time Zone. Newfoundland is "on the ½ hour" and is ½ hour
> ahead of Atlantic. There used to be Yukon Time Zone which was ½ hour behind
> Pacific but they changed to the Pacific Time Zone.
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> All-in-all UTC is very convenient and it should be easy for anyone from N.
> America to do the math which, depending on the Time Zone and whether it is
> Standard or Daylight means a subtraction, for Canadians, of between 2½ & 8
> hours and for the rest, of between 3 & 8 hours.
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Message 22788 - Posted: 5 Sep 2004, 20:33:35 UTC

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Message 22793 - Posted: 5 Sep 2004, 20:41:58 UTC - in response to Message 22753.  

> Apologies for the 'off-topic' content of this.
>
> Howdy Pedrito:
>
> Ich war bei Ihre Webstelle gewesen und ich konte mich nicht bei Ihrem
> Gästebuch eintragen.
>
> -H. Richard Utzig in Kanada

Hi Richard, thanks for visiting my website. I'm sorry that you couldn't sign my guestbook. Maybe you tried to open my flash-guestbook and flash is not installed on your computer!? In this case should try to sign my HTML-guestbook.
>
> Back to topic:
>
> Does Swatch, when it doesn't provide any BOINC project with funding, seem an
> appropriate place to go to assist in doing time calculations?
>

Why not? There would be no more worries when the guys in Berkeley announe to be up with the project at the "end of the day". Instead they could announe to be up @250 internet time. And this a global time, no matter where you are.
All you need is a (s)watch that displays internet time.

Kindest regards - Pedrito @904
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Message 22796 - Posted: 5 Sep 2004, 20:47:57 UTC - in response to Message 22793.  

> Why not? There would be no more worries when the guys in Berkeley announe to
> be up with the project at the "end of the day". Instead they could announe to
> be up @250 internet time. And this a global time, no matter where you are.
> All you need is a (s)watch that displays internet time.

What! UTC IS the universal time. It is global and all time is referenced from it. Hands up anybody who has actually bought a watch that shows internet time - other than Pedrito that is.

Neil

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Message 22808 - Posted: 5 Sep 2004, 21:09:53 UTC
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Interesting discussion going on here.

At LHC@Home, one question: post the time in UTC for the news. Only 1 reaction: the time was added in UTC after 15 minutes only.

Don't understand why all these discussions. :)
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