I am of the opinion that if you could go back in time you would re-appear at the same instant you left
because this is your timeline
I don't believe you can possibly go foreword in time because it hasn't happend yet

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Then how would you return to you're own time if it has not yet happened?

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TEAM
LL

Forward time travel is possible, and does happen. As long as your definition of time travel is a differing time as measured by the traveller's clock and the stationary person's clock.

Back in time?
I can't see how it can happen for a variety of reasons, but fair to say if it were possible for any odd reason, I'm sure someone from the future would have let us know by now...

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Then how would you return to you're own time if it has not yet happened?

Sorry Sleestak but i think you miusunderstood whati said, your time has happened you have gone back from your point in time that is why i say you come back at the same time as you left to continue in your own time line

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Then how would you return to you're own time if it has not yet happened?

Sorry Sleestak but i think you miusunderstood whati said, your time has happened you have gone back from your point in time that is why i say you come back at the same time as you left to continue your own time line

I know what you meant, but it's not possible. Forgeting for a moment that I don't even believe in the time variable. Even if you could travel back in time, it would not be the same as it was before. The reason for this is that all energy has to be placed back into the same possition as it was for that time. If it's not, it's not the same "time" that was. This means that if you had a memory of the future from which you came or there were then two of you in the "past", not all energy has been returned and this in turn effects everything else. The movie Butterfly Effect dealt with this issue. The smallest thing does effect everything else within the distance that light can travel in the amount of time in question. This would easily encompass the Earth within a fraction of a second.

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TEAM
LL

Forward time travel is possible, and does happen. As long as your definition of time travel is a differing time as measured by the traveller's clock and the stationary person's clock.

Back in time?
I can't see how it can happen for a variety of reasons, but fair to say if it were possible for any odd reason, I'm sure someone from the future would have let us know by now...

As for me, I'm constantly stuck in the point that the future intersects with the past and cannot seem to escape.

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TEAM
LL

Forward time travel is possible, and does happen. As long as your definition of time travel is a differing time as measured by the traveller's clock and the stationary person's clock.

Back in time?
I can't see how it can happen for a variety of reasons, but fair to say if it were possible for any odd reason, I'm sure someone from the future would have let us know by now...

As for me, I'm constantly stuck in the point that the future intersects with the past and cannot seem to escape.

I think i know what you mean but it's late and my brain has gone to custard
i think it's ths whiskey good night

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no body knows about dark matter and dark energy perhaps can time be defined from those dark things?!

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Mandtugai!

Forward time travel is possible, and does happen. As long as your definition of time travel is a differing time as measured by the traveller's clock and the stationary person's clock.

Back in time?
I can't see how it can happen for a variety of reasons, but fair to say if it were possible for any odd reason, I'm sure someone from the future would have let us know by now...

As for me, I'm constantly stuck in the point that the future intersects with the past and cannot seem to escape.

They may have but we might be too thick to interpret it

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I don't really have anything to add to this fascinating subject of discussion, other than to say that -once again- I agree with Mr. Tesla.

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/Mav

We have lingered long enough on the shores of the cosmic ocean.
We are ready at last to set sail for the stars.
(Carl Sagan)

the only way know to man as of yet to "travel time" is going in a very fast plane would put u in the future
but long times is not possible

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Even if we knew how to go back in time or ahead in time. Man should never be able to do it.

It is our nature to try and change things and we would end up making things worst then they are!

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I don't really have anything to add to this fascinating subject of discussion, other than to say that -once again- I agree with Mr. Tesla.

Hello Diego and Mr Tesla (I have to grin at this one...)

I also dont believe in time travel. if i am proved wrong (if i live long enough...before the sun blows up) experiments did prove that time dilation takes place when an object is moved at a rapid velocity, in relation to a stationary object. when the atomic clock was flown around the world they measured some infintesimally small chnage in its time compared to the master clock when they arrived back......

So thinking about this raises the question... if an object (eg a star ship) travelling at high velocity for a long time (10 years) arrives at its destination (lets say back at its home planet after a roundtrip) and the occupants step out to greet the staff who originally waved them goodbye....
we all understand that the ships passengers will NOT have aged as much as the planets people....

But dont we also have a semi strange event of the past living breathing people standing in the here and now ... they (the ships crew) have gone from a slowed down timeline but also still being part of the real universe in real time...to then appearing to the present accelerated timeline people in this real time...(there has to be some sort of bubble/warping effect here to achieve this.. doesnt there ??)

This whole issue raises another question (if only to me..) of the warping of space/time... can we do it with anything else other than raw velocity.

I mean whats so dam special about going just fast... that it produces time dilation...(and yes I know E=MC^2) we MUST be able to reproduce the effects in a lab... when we finally find out how.... then bingo...

I don't really have anything to add to this fascinating subject of discussion, other than to say that -once again- I agree with Mr. Tesla.

Hello Diego and Mr Tesla (I have to grin at this one...)

I also dont believe in time travel. if i am proved wrong (if i live long enough...before the sun blows up) experiments did prove that time dilation takes place when an object is moved at a rapid velocity, in relation to a stationary object. when the atomic clock was flown around the world they measured some infintesimally small chnage in its time compared to the master clock when they arrived back......

So thinking about this raises the question... if an object (eg a star ship) travelling at high velocity for a long time (10 years) arrives at its destination (lets say back at its home planet after a roundtrip) and the occupants step out to greet the staff who originally waved them goodbye....
we all understand that the ships passengers will NOT have aged as much as the planets people....

But dont we also have a semi strange event of the past living breathing people standing in the here and now ... they (the ships crew) have gone from a slowed down timeline but also still being part of the real universe in real time...to then appearing to the present accelerated timeline people in this real time...(there has to be some sort of bubble/warping effect here to achieve this.. doesnt there ??)

This whole issue raises another question (if only to me..) of the warping of space/time... can we do it with anything else other than raw velocity.

I mean whats so dam special about going just fast... that it produces time dilation...(and yes I know E=MC^2) we MUST be able to reproduce the effects in a lab... when we finally find out how.... then bingo...

There is a secondary solution to the clock issue which I will not share on this forum but you have to ask yourself, what does this do to a biological system? I would have to see what happens to a plant or animal for a prolonged period. Perhaps, one day they can answer this question in the space station.

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TEAM
LL

There is a secondary solution to the clock issue which I will not share on this forum but you have to ask yourself, what does this do to a biological system? I would have to see what happens to a plant or animal for a prolonged period. Perhaps, one day they can answer this question in the space station.

secondary solution to the clock issue... sounds interesting, perhaps some comments to parallel at bcs dot net dot nz.

Perhaps a look here..samples from the archive and a small beginnings of a "clippings" page clippings

I also do wonder about the incremental biological effects of prolonged exposure to artificial environments. We already know about the loss of bone tissue and other medial impacts.. what other sideeffects will become evident..?

My personal theory is that for long distance travel (unless we find FTL or ??)to be at all viable a self enclosed environment rather like a large cylindar/drum complete with soil, plants, trees, large water mass. etc is realy required. spin it up to 1g and setforth... brave new world and all that. inhabitants would say goodbye to sol for ever......

Does anyone know at what speed the ISS speeds around our earth? Is it not some ridiculously fast speed (compared to your family car anyhow, or even a high speed jet)? What would happen if we sent an atomic clock up there to orbit the earth for a decade or so? Would it always match up to its partner in Houston?

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Kolch - Crunching for the BOINC@Australia team since July 2004.
Search for your own intelligence...

what if somehow you could go around the earth at the speed of light counter clock wise would you be able to go back in time, or would you just be going really fast.

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There is a secondary solution to the clock issue which I will not share on this forum but you have to ask yourself, what does this do to a biological system? I would have to see what happens to a plant or animal for a prolonged period. Perhaps, one day they can answer this question in the space station.

secondary solution to the clock issue... sounds interesting, perhaps some comments to parallel at bcs dot net dot nz.

Perhaps a look here..samples from the archive and a small beginnings of a "clippings" page clippings

I also do wonder about the incremental biological effects of prolonged exposure to artificial environments. We already know about the loss of bone tissue and other medial impacts.. what other sideeffects will become evident..?

My personal theory is that for long distance travel (unless we find FTL or ??)to be at all viable a self enclosed environment rather like a large cylindar/drum complete with soil, plants, trees, large water mass. etc is realy required. spin it up to 1g and setforth... brave new world and all that. inhabitants would say goodbye to sol for ever......

But aren't we all travelling through time (if not by millionths of nanoseconds) just by walking. That would mean that everyone on earth is on a different timeline and even a different timeline than the eart itself.

Does anyone know at what speed the ISS speeds around our earth? Is it not some ridiculously fast speed (compared to your family car anyhow, or even a high speed jet)? What would happen if we sent an atomic clock up there to orbit the earth for a decade or so? Would it always match up to its partner in Houston?

The ISS speed is 7.7 KMP per second at a orbit of 390 KM high.

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