Did 5.17 get released here?
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Did 5.17 get released here?
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WendyR  Send message Joined: 1 Aug 05 Posts: 44 Credit: 1,962,140 RAC: 0 
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I just noticed some strange errors in my messages area. Yes, I am running Chicken's enhanced app on this machine. Nothing on the front page or the "Tech news" either. I checked before writing this.... 8/4/2006 3:44:30 PM|SETI@home|Reason: To fetch work 8/4/2006 3:44:30 PM|SETI@home|Requesting 1470 seconds of new work 8/4/2006 3:44:35 PM|SETI@home|Scheduler request succeeded 8/4/2006 3:44:35 PM|SETI@home|State file error: no application version setiathome_enhanced 517 8/4/2006 3:44:35 PM|SETI@home|Can't handle task 09ap06ab.26586.15186.842304.3.162 in scheduler reply 8/4/2006 3:44:35 PM|SETI@home|State file error: missing task 09ap06ab.26586.15186.842304.3.162 8/4/2006 3:44:35 PM|SETI@home|Can't handle task 09ap06ab.26586.15186.842304.3.162_0 in scheduler reply 8/4/2006 3:44:35 PM|SETI@home|No work from project ID: 388514 ·  |
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SETI User Send message Joined: 29 Jun 02 Posts: 369 Credit: 0 RAC: 0 
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I just noticed some strange errors in my messages area. Yes, I am running Chicken's enhanced app on this machine. Hello! Seti Beta use now V5.17 "normal" Seti use V5.15 (Windows) Maybe you must check your app_info.xml ? Greetings! ID: 388520 · |
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WendyR Send message Joined: 1 Aug 05 Posts: 44 Credit: 1,962,140 RAC: 0
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Hello! Notice the messages I posted. They are NOT for Beta. Messages in the log file for Beta would look more like this: 8/4/2006 1:50:32 PM|SETI@home Beta Test|Resuming task 02ap05aa.12805.896.634652.3.235_1 using setiathome_enhanced version 517 app_info.xml is the "standard" version from the distribution, and does not mention the 5.17 anywhere that I can see. ID: 388524 · |
 Geek@Play  Send message Joined: 31 Jul 01 Posts: 2467 Credit: 86,146,931 RAC: 0
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In the app_info file it would look like this..... <version_num>517</version_num> I seem to remember that Crunch3r released some app_info files that covered every possible version number from 5.00 to 5.19 which may cause problems in this case. At the time I thought it was not wise but he didn't change it. On second thought it should not matter unless Seti Beta is using the exact same directory as the normal Seti project. The two projects SHOULD be in different directory's and thus not use the same app_info file. Boinc....Boinc....Boinc....Boinc.... ID: 388527 · |
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ai5000 Send message Joined: 1 Jan 01 Posts: 57 Credit: 2,805,412 RAC: 0
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Something is screwed up... after getting 5.17 from Seti Beta I've gotten nothing but errors on Seti. 8/4/2006 6:48:28 PM|SETI@home|State file error: no application version setiathome_enhanced 517 8/4/2006 6:48:28 PM|SETI@home|Can't handle task 09ap06aa.3678.25921.667316.3.52 in scheduler reply 8/4/2006 6:48:28 PM|SETI@home|State file error: missing task 09ap06aa.3678.25921.667316.3.52 8/4/2006 6:48:28 PM|SETI@home|Can't handle task 09ap06aa.3678.25921.667316.3.52_1 in scheduler reply 8/4/2006 6:48:28 PM|SETI@home|No work from project I'm using Chicken's optimized app as well. But each project is in a separate folder so it shouldn't matter, right? ID: 388625 · |
nick  Send message Joined: 22 Jul 05 Posts: 284 Credit: 3,902,174 RAC: 0
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i think that it needs the new app look at this 8/4/2006 3:48:28 PM|SETI@home|State file error: no application version setiathome_enhanced 517 8/4/2006 3:48:28 PM|SETI@home|Can't handle task 09ap06ab.26586.15568.297172.3.59 in scheduler reply 8/4/2006 3:48:28 PM|SETI@home|State file error: missing task 09ap06ab.26586.15568.297172.3.59 8/4/2006 3:48:28 PM|SETI@home|Can't handle task 09ap06ab.26586.15568.297172.3.59_0 in scheduler reply 8/4/2006 3:48:28 PM|SETI@home|No work from project 8/4/2006 3:58:38 PM|SETI@home|Sending scheduler request to http://setiboinc.ssl.berkeley.edu/sah_cgi/cgi 8/4/2006 3:58:38 PM|SETI@home|Reason: To fetch work 8/4/2006 3:58:38 PM|SETI@home|Requesting 22877 seconds of new work 8/4/2006 3:58:43 PM|SETI@home|Scheduler request succeeded 8/4/2006 3:58:43 PM|SETI@home|State file error: no application version setiathome_enhanced 517 8/4/2006 3:58:43 PM|SETI@home|Can't handle task 11ap06aa.1076.3056.184644.3.5 in scheduler reply 8/4/2006 3:58:43 PM|SETI@home|State file error: missing task 11ap06aa.1076.3056.184644.3.5 8/4/2006 3:58:43 PM|SETI@home|Can't handle task 11ap06aa.1076.3056.184644.3.5_1 in scheduler reply 8/4/2006 3:58:43 PM|SETI@home|No work from project 8/4/2006 4:08:53 PM|SETI@home|Sending scheduler request to http://setiboinc.ssl.berkeley.edu/sah_cgi/cgi 8/4/2006 4:08:53 PM|SETI@home|Reason: To fetch work 8/4/2006 4:08:53 PM|SETI@home|Requesting 45995 seconds of new work 8/4/2006 4:08:58 PM|SETI@home|Scheduler request succeeded 8/4/2006 4:08:58 PM|SETI@home|State file error: no application version setiathome_enhanced 517 8/4/2006 4:08:58 PM|SETI@home|Can't handle task 09ap06ab.26586.15618.1003414.3.214 in scheduler reply 8/4/2006 4:08:58 PM|SETI@home|State file error: missing task 09ap06ab.26586.15618.1003414.3.214 8/4/2006 4:08:58 PM|SETI@home|Can't handle task 09ap06ab.26586.15618.1003414.3.214_1 in scheduler reply 8/4/2006 4:08:58 PM|SETI@home|No work from project 8/4/2006 4:19:08 PM|SETI@home|Sending scheduler request to http://setiboinc.ssl.berkeley.edu/sah_cgi/cgi 8/4/2006 4:19:08 PM|SETI@home|Reason: To fetch work 8/4/2006 4:19:08 PM|SETI@home|Requesting 66660 seconds of new work 8/4/2006 4:19:13 PM|SETI@home|Scheduler request succeeded 8/4/2006 4:19:13 PM|SETI@home|State file error: no application version setiathome_enhanced 517 8/4/2006 4:19:13 PM|SETI@home|Can't handle task 09ap06aa.3678.25826.286082.3.197 in scheduler reply 8/4/2006 4:19:13 PM|SETI@home|State file error: missing task 09ap06aa.3678.25826.286082.3.197 8/4/2006 4:19:13 PM|SETI@home|Can't handle task 09ap06aa.3678.25826.286082.3.197_1 in scheduler reply 8/4/2006 4:19:13 PM|SETI@home|No work from project 8/4/2006 4:29:23 PM|SETI@home|Sending scheduler request to http://setiboinc.ssl.berkeley.edu/sah_cgi/cgi 8/4/2006 4:29:23 PM|SETI@home|Reason: To fetch work 8/4/2006 4:29:23 PM|SETI@home|Requesting 89179 seconds of new work 8/4/2006 4:29:28 PM|SETI@home|Scheduler request succeeded 8/4/2006 4:29:28 PM|SETI@home|State file error: no application version setiathome_enhanced 517 8/4/2006 4:29:28 PM|SETI@home|Can't handle task 09ap06ab.26586.15666.667316.3.211 in scheduler reply 8/4/2006 4:29:28 PM|SETI@home|State file error: missing task 09ap06ab.26586.15666.667316.3.211 8/4/2006 4:29:28 PM|SETI@home|Can't handle task 09ap06ab.26586.15666.667316.3.211_0 in scheduler reply 8/4/2006 4:29:28 PM|SETI@home|No work from project 8/4/2006 4:33:45 PM|SETI@home|Pausing task 09ap06ab.26586.8353.148560.3.103_2 (removed from memory) 8/4/2006 4:33:45 PM|rosetta@home|Restarting task t382__CASP7_ABRELAX_SAVE_ALL_OUT_hom001__1012_86845_0 using rosetta version 525 8/4/2006 4:33:45 PM|SETI@home Beta Test|Restarting task 02ap05aa.12805.896.634652.3.200_3 using setiathome_enhanced version 517 8/4/2006 4:33:45 PM|boincsimap|Pausing task 60701014.002998_0 (removed from memory) 8/4/2006 4:39:39 PM|SETI@home|Sending scheduler request to http://setiboinc.ssl.berkeley.edu/sah_cgi/cgi 8/4/2006 4:39:39 PM|SETI@home|Reason: To fetch work 8/4/2006 4:39:39 PM|SETI@home|Requesting 96970 seconds of new work 8/4/2006 4:39:59 PM|SETI@home|Scheduler request succeeded 8/4/2006 4:39:59 PM|SETI@home|State file error: no application version setiathome_enhanced 517 8/4/2006 4:39:59 PM|SETI@home|Can't handle task 09ap06ab.26586.15714.336072.3.24 in scheduler reply 8/4/2006 4:39:59 PM|SETI@home|State file error: missing task 09ap06ab.26586.15714.336072.3.24 8/4/2006 4:39:59 PM|SETI@home|Can't handle task 09ap06ab.26586.15714.336072.3.24_0 in scheduler reply 8/4/2006 4:39:59 PM|SETI@home|No work from project 8/4/2006 4:47:39 PM|SETI@home Beta Test|Sending scheduler request to http://setiboinc.ssl.berkeley.edu/beta_cgi/cgi 8/4/2006 4:47:39 PM|SETI@home Beta Test|Reason: To fetch work 8/4/2006 4:47:39 PM|SETI@home Beta Test|Requesting 4 seconds of new work 8/4/2006 4:47:44 PM|SETI@home Beta Test|Scheduler request succeeded 8/4/2006 4:47:46 PM|SETI@home Beta Test|Started download of file 02ap05aa.12805.944.290910.3.109 8/4/2006 4:48:15 PM|SETI@home Beta Test|Finished download of file 02ap05aa.12805.944.290910.3.109 8/4/2006 4:48:15 PM|SETI@home Beta Test|Throughput 12852 bytes/sec 8/4/2006 4:48:16 PM||Rescheduling CPU: files downloaded 8/4/2006 4:50:09 PM|SETI@home|Sending scheduler request to http://setiboinc.ssl.berkeley.edu/sah_cgi/cgi 8/4/2006 4:50:09 PM|SETI@home|Reason: To fetch work 8/4/2006 4:50:09 PM|SETI@home|Requesting 97047 seconds of new work 8/4/2006 4:50:14 PM|SETI@home|Scheduler request succeeded 8/4/2006 4:50:14 PM|SETI@home|State file error: no application version setiathome_enhanced 517 8/4/2006 4:50:14 PM|SETI@home|Can't handle task 09ap06aa.3678.25921.667316.3.99 in scheduler reply 8/4/2006 4:50:14 PM|SETI@home|State file error: missing task 09ap06aa.3678.25921.667316.3.99 8/4/2006 4:50:14 PM|SETI@home|Can't handle task 09ap06aa.3678.25921.667316.3.99_0 in scheduler reply 8/4/2006 4:50:14 PM|SETI@home|No work from project 8/4/2006 5:00:24 PM|SETI@home|Sending scheduler request to http://setiboinc.ssl.berkeley.edu/sah_cgi/cgi 8/4/2006 5:00:24 PM|SETI@home|Reason: To fetch work 8/4/2006 5:00:24 PM|SETI@home|Requesting 97075 seconds of new work 8/4/2006 5:00:29 PM|SETI@home|Scheduler request succeeded 8/4/2006 5:00:29 PM|SETI@home|State file error: no application version setiathome_enhanced 517 8/4/2006 5:00:29 PM|SETI@home|Can't handle task 11ap06aa.1076.3345.267324.3.1 in scheduler reply 8/4/2006 5:00:29 PM|SETI@home|State file error: missing task 11ap06aa.1076.3345.267324.3.1 8/4/2006 5:00:29 PM|SETI@home|Can't handle task 11ap06aa.1076.3345.267324.3.1_0 in scheduler reply 8/4/2006 5:00:29 PM|SETI@home|No work from project it says no app version 5.17  
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Geek@Play Send message Joined: 31 Jul 01 Posts: 2467 Credit: 86,146,931 RAC: 0
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I may be wrong but it's beginning to look like the two projects Seti Enhanced and Seti Beta do not play well together. Boinc....Boinc....Boinc....Boinc.... ID: 388628 · |
Jord  Send message Joined: 9 Jun 99 Posts: 15184 Credit: 4,362,181 RAC: 3 
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Both ai5000 and nick, exit BOINC completely, then restart it. Now post the messages from your Messages tab in BOINC Manager. All of them, please. ID: 388659 · |
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WendyR Send message Joined: 1 Aug 05 Posts: 44 Credit: 1,962,140 RAC: 0
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Still not sure what is going on here....I finished the workunit that machine was working on, then reset the project. Same behavior. I detached from [main] SETI and reattached. It downloaded the [stock] 5.15 app and another workunit. I reinstalled Chicken's optimized version [in the regular SETI directory only]. It is currently crunching on the one it got. I have about 5 "ghost" units on that machine too... Only time will tell how that will work..... Here is my logfile...it starts when I restarted BOINC after [re]installing Chicken's app..... 8/4/2006 7:34:58 PM||Starting BOINC client version 5.5.0 for windows_intelx86 8/4/2006 7:34:58 PM||libcurl/7.15.3 OpenSSL/0.9.8a zlib/1.2.3 8/4/2006 7:34:58 PM||Executing as a daemon 8/4/2006 7:34:58 PM||Data directory: C:\\Program Files\\BOINC 8/4/2006 7:34:58 PM||BOINC is running as a service and as a non-system user. 8/4/2006 7:34:58 PM||No application graphics will be available. 8/4/2006 7:34:58 PM|SETI@home|Found app_info.xml; using anonymous platform 8/4/2006 7:34:58 PM||Processor: 1 GenuineIntel Intel(R) Pentium(R) M processor 1600MHz 8/4/2006 7:34:58 PM||Memory: 510.92 MB physical, 1.22 GB virtual 8/4/2006 7:34:58 PM||Disk: 72.12 GB total, 36.83 GB free 8/4/2006 7:34:58 PM|rosetta@home|URL: http://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/; Computer ID: 92129; location: home; project prefs: default 8/4/2006 7:34:58 PM|SETI@home|URL: http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/; Computer ID: 2061148; location: ; project prefs: default 8/4/2006 7:34:58 PM|SETI@home Beta Test|URL: http://setiweb.ssl.berkeley.edu/beta/; Computer ID: 4540; location: home; project prefs: default 8/4/2006 7:34:58 PM||General prefs: from SETI@home (last modified 2006-07-28 22:39:20) 8/4/2006 7:34:58 PM||General prefs: using your defaults 8/4/2006 7:34:58 PM||Local control only allowed 8/4/2006 7:34:58 PM||Listening on port 31416 8/4/2006 7:34:58 PM|SETI@home Beta Test|Deferring task 02ap05aa.12805.896.634652.3.235_1 8/4/2006 7:34:58 PM|rosetta@home|Deferring task FRA_t181_CASP7_hom001_4_t181_4_2g7uA_IGNORE_THE_REST_28_1051_312_1 8/4/2006 7:34:58 PM|SETI@home|Resuming task 09ap06aa.3678.26064.728420.3.7_2 using setiathome_enhanced version 515 ID: 388666 · |
KB7RZF  Send message Joined: 15 Aug 99 Posts: 9555 Credit: 3,308,926 RAC: 2
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Thats really odd. With running Beta and here, I also run Chickens app on main SETI. I've downloaded 3 Beta WU's, 5.17, and they are happily crunching along, as well as my main SETI. 
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KB7RZF Send message Joined: 15 Aug 99 Posts: 9555 Credit: 3,308,926 RAC: 2
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Well, I just wound up getting a 5.17 enhanced wu here. I modified the app_info.xml of Chickens just to see if in fact it would download one, and it did. This WU here is the 5.17. Will have to see if it will crunch ok with Chickens app and report ok.
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Jim-R.  Send message Joined: 7 Feb 06 Posts: 1494 Credit: 194,148 RAC: 0
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Well, I just wound up getting a 5.17 enhanced wu here. I modified the app_info.xml of Chickens just to see if in fact it would download one, and it did. This WU here is the 5.17. Will have to see if it will crunch ok with Chickens app and report ok. I believe what you are seeing is just BOINC reporting the highest version in the app-info file. This was noticed with Crunch3r's appinfo which listed versions up to 5.19 and all wu's claimed they were 5.19. There is no such thing as a 5.15 or 5.17 work unit. They are all the same work units. It's just that boinc reads the app info file to get the version that it should report. If you have correctly listed Chicken's app in the app info file and marked it as 5.17 then that is what will be used to crunch it but it will report as 5.17. The info printed in the actual result returned will contain the correct version number in the stderr section but the version in the listing will be wrong. Jim Some people plan their life out and look back at the wealth they've had. Others live life day by day and look back at the wealth of experiences and enjoyment they've had. ID: 388737 · |
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KB7RZF Send message Joined: 15 Aug 99 Posts: 9555 Credit: 3,308,926 RAC: 2
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Well, just to see what happens, I deleted the 5.17 in the app_info.xml, and got this: 8/4/2006 7:07:29 PM|SETI@home|State file error: no application version setiathome_enhanced 517 8/4/2006 7:07:29 PM|SETI@home|Can't handle workunit in state file 8/4/2006 7:07:29 PM|SETI@home|State file error: missing task 09ap06aa.3678.26210.761084.3.235 8/4/2006 7:07:29 PM|SETI@home|Can't link task 09ap06aa.3678.26210.761084.3.235_3 in state file 8/4/2006 7:07:29 PM|SETI@home|State file error: result 09ap06aa.3678.26210.761084.3.235_3 not found [edit] I'm sure it deleted the WU simply because there was no app for it any longer. I'm still playin around with it just to see what happens.
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KB7RZF Send message Joined: 15 Aug 99 Posts: 9555 Credit: 3,308,926 RAC: 2
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And yet another edit: Now that I erased the 5.17 info from the app file, this is what I get when I request more work: 8/4/2006 7:12:17 PM|SETI@home|Sending scheduler request to http://setiboinc.ssl.berkeley.edu/sah_cgi/cgi 8/4/2006 7:12:17 PM|SETI@home|Reason: To fetch work 8/4/2006 7:12:17 PM|SETI@home|Requesting 18805 seconds of new work 8/4/2006 7:12:21 PM|SETI@home|Scheduler request succeeded 8/4/2006 7:12:21 PM|SETI@home|State file error: no application version setiathome_enhanced 517 8/4/2006 7:12:21 PM|SETI@home|Can't handle task 10ap06aa.27977.3090.29822.3.82 in scheduler reply 8/4/2006 7:12:21 PM|SETI@home|State file error: no application version setiathome_enhanced 517 8/4/2006 7:12:21 PM|SETI@home|Can't handle task 09ap06aa.3678.26306.104806.3.195 in scheduler reply 8/4/2006 7:12:21 PM|SETI@home|State file error: missing task 10ap06aa.27977.3090.29822.3.82 8/4/2006 7:12:21 PM|SETI@home|Can't handle task 10ap06aa.27977.3090.29822.3.82_1 in scheduler reply 8/4/2006 7:12:21 PM|SETI@home|State file error: missing task 09ap06aa.3678.26306.104806.3.195 8/4/2006 7:12:21 PM|SETI@home|Can't handle task 09ap06aa.3678.26306.104806.3.195_3 in scheduler reply 8/4/2006 7:12:21 PM|SETI@home|No work from project So, I'm thinking 5.17 is actually here.
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Jim-R. Send message Joined: 7 Feb 06 Posts: 1494 Credit: 194,148 RAC: 0
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Well, just to see what happens, I deleted the 5.17 in the app_info.xml, and got this: What's happened is you downloaded the work units and they've been keyed to run with that version. Edit the app-info and add the 5.17 back in and finish crunching the work you have but tell it no new tasks until you get those crunched. then edit the file again to put it back to normal. There's nothing wrong with it, but it's just tagged the work units to use that specific version (whether it's a real version or not. The app-info file is telling it what to do right now.) Jim Some people plan their life out and look back at the wealth they've had. Others live life day by day and look back at the wealth of experiences and enjoyment they've had. ID: 388760 · |
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KB7RZF Send message Joined: 15 Aug 99 Posts: 9555 Credit: 3,308,926 RAC: 2
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Well, just to see what happens, I deleted the 5.17 in the app_info.xml, and got this: Funny thing tho, is the other 5 WU's I got are tagged 5.15, and still happily crunching along. I never seen it do this before. I'm still kinda dumb founded. LOL
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Fuzzy Hollynoodles  Send message Joined: 3 Apr 99 Posts: 9659 Credit: 251,998 RAC: 0 |
I do too. From my log: 8/5/2006 4:04:29 AM|SETI@home|Sending scheduler request to http://setiboinc.ssl.berkeley.edu/sah_cgi/cgi 8/5/2006 4:04:29 AM|SETI@home|Reason: To fetch work 8/5/2006 4:04:29 AM|SETI@home|Requesting 39 seconds of new work 8/5/2006 4:04:34 AM|SETI@home|Scheduler request succeeded 8/5/2006 4:04:34 AM|SETI@home|State file error: no application version setiathome_enhanced 517 8/5/2006 4:04:34 AM|SETI@home|Can't handle task 09ap06ab.26586.16098.804838.3.75 in scheduler reply 8/5/2006 4:04:34 AM|SETI@home|State file error: missing task 09ap06ab.26586.16098.804838.3.75 8/5/2006 4:04:34 AM|SETI@home|Can't handle task 09ap06ab.26586.16098.804838.3.75_2 in scheduler reply 8/5/2006 4:04:34 AM|SETI@home|No work from project I have set Seti to No new work to finish the 5.15 I have and then I'll remove Chicken's app and see what happens. And I think Chicken soon will have an app for those. "I'm trying to maintain a shred of dignity in this world." - Me 
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Jim-R. Send message Joined: 7 Feb 06 Posts: 1494 Credit: 194,148 RAC: 0
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You probably still have 5.15 listed in your app-info. If so it will still crunch the ones it downloaded and tagged for that version, but it won't crunch the others until you put 5.17 back into the file. If it's not got an application listed in the file it can't crunch the wu's. The reason for this is due to the fact that the servers can send out different versions of work units and the app-info file can be used to specify a specific application to crunch each type of work unit. This was done during the conversion from normal SETI to SETI Inhanced. While there were still regular work units available they would be crunched with version 4.11 or an optimized app for that version. If the server had Enhanced wu's then it would download them. But now that all old work units are gone, there's only "Enhanced" work units and any version of the Enhanced application can crunch them. However the enhanced app could not handle pre-enhanced wu's nor could the 4.11 app handle an Enhanced wu. Jim Some people plan their life out and look back at the wealth they've had. Others live life day by day and look back at the wealth of experiences and enjoyment they've had. ID: 388776 · |
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KB7RZF Send message Joined: 15 Aug 99 Posts: 9555 Credit: 3,308,926 RAC: 2
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Hmm. Well, As fuzzy said, I'm gonna run my WU's dry, Im gonna remove Chickens app, do a reset, and go from there and see. Just kinda odd that all of a sudden this starts happening out of the blue. Jeremy
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Jim-R. Send message Joined: 7 Feb 06 Posts: 1494 Credit: 194,148 RAC: 0
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Ok, one other explanation... I've read in some posts in Beta about BOINC getting confused with normal SETI and BETA. Seems that it doesn't like the two different versions running simultaneously. T think there's a fix for it by using app-info files for both projects, but I'm not sure. I notice both of you are beta testers and that could be the explanation. I am running Linux so I'm still running 5.12 for Linux. Seems like the only version that had problems and needed upgeading was the Windows versions. Jim Some people plan their life out and look back at the wealth they've had. Others live life day by day and look back at the wealth of experiences and enjoyment they've had. ID: 388804 · |
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