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"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe." |
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"Do you believe in immortality? No, and one life is enough for me" --Albert Einstein ![]() My photography world |
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More and more of Einstein here. and another quote: Learn from yesterday, live for today, hope for tomorrow. and a question about this quote: I don't believe in mathematics. what do you think he tried to say? (besides the obvious, of course...) Bye! Tiare Rivera.- ![]() My photography world |
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I don't believe in mathematics. I think he was hinting that mathemetics is not the universe, mathematics is a description of the universe. |
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I don't believe in mathematics. And there is not a one to one correspondance. Just because the math works doesn't mean you have described the universe. David Stites Pullman, WA USA ![]() |
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I think he was hinting that mathemetics is not the universe, mathematics is a description of the universe. And there is not a one to one correspondance. Just because the math works doesn't mean you have described the universe. I think you got it, guys. I found another quote from Einstein, which clarify the sentence "I don't believe in mathematics": "As far as the laws of mathematics refer to reality, they are not certain, as far as they are certain, they do not refer to reality." -Albert Einstein merci, Tiare . . .De rien, nobody ;) by the way, the part I really liked was his manuscripts. Tiare Rivera.- ![]() My photography world |
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I don't believe in mathematics. yeah that really makes sense. einstien was big on wonder and mystery - am thinking in particular of a quote 'imagination is more important than knowledge' maybe he didn't want things to ever be defined or limited by their mathematical properties. maybe he meant things are always bigger than the sum of their parts. people demand freedom of speech as a compensation for freedom of thought which they seldom use - soren kierkegaard |
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If the math works, you may or may not have described reality. However, if the math doesn't work, you have clearly not described reality. ![]() ![]() BOINC WIKI |
Chuck ![]() Send message Joined: 1 Dec 05 Posts: 511 Credit: 532,682 RAC: 0 |
And what's this baloney about things being 'greater than the sum of their parts'? It's just a cop-out when faced with highly complex systems we are at a loss to completely account for and sum up. Never Forget a Friend. Or an Enemy. |
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And what's this baloney about things being 'greater than the sum of their parts'? It's just a cop-out when faced with highly complex systems we are at a loss to completely account for and sum up. Gelstatism is, or should be, a concept restricted to the realm of philosophy, not science......there's your answer, Chuck. Founder of BOINC team Objectivists. Oh the humanity! Rational people crunching data! I did NOT authorize this belly writing! ![]() |
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And what's this baloney about things being 'greater than the sum of their parts'? It's just a cop-out when faced with highly complex systems we are at a loss to completely account for and sum up. Synergy is not an idle concept. Quantum, string and DM theory all have areas where "summing up the parts" simply leads you off to NeverNever Land. |
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And what's this baloney about things being 'greater than the sum of their parts'? It's just a cop-out when faced with highly complex systems we are at a loss to completely account for and sum up. Can you explain this dynamic please? Thanks....it seems we are shooting at 2 different birds. I'd like to hear you elaborate on that.... Thanks. Founder of BOINC team Objectivists. Oh the humanity! Rational people crunching data! I did NOT authorize this belly writing! ![]() |
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ps . . . 'The Synergistic Reporters' will return in the fall ;_) |
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And what's this baloney about things being 'greater than the sum of their parts'? It's just a cop-out when faced with highly complex systems we are at a loss to completely account for and sum up. it's called synergy. the best documented examples are drug / chemical or pest synergy. for example, the damage done by two pests in a given area is greater than double the damage done by infestations of each alone. i hope i've worded that so it's clear. i understand what u are saying however - it isn't magic - it is a dynamic of energy that we don't understand. while writing about synergy i was thinking of another quote by einstein about computers being fast, accurate but unable to think, and humans being slow, inaccurate and able to imagine almost anything. together he said 'they are powerful beyond belief.' people demand freedom of speech as a compensation for freedom of thought which they seldom use - soren kierkegaard |
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I did some guesswork regarding the computing speed of the human brain. It goes something like this: The human brain consists of roughly 100 billion neurons. Each of them has on average 10.000 synapses (connection points) Each synapse is capable of doing 100 floating point operations (FLOPS) per second If you multiply all this you get at 100.000.000 billion FLOPS per second. A reasonably fast PC can do about 5 billion FLOPS per second. This (rough) estimate would give the human brain the power of 20.000.000 PCs. That's not so terribly slow, after all. Regards Hans |
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And what's this baloney about things being 'greater than the sum of their parts'? It's just a cop-out when faced with highly complex systems we are at a loss to completely account for and sum up. Another example of something that is greater than the sum of it's parts is bronze. Tin and copper are relatively soft metals separately, but when you melt 6 parts copper with 4 parts tin you get an alloy that is harder and more corrosion resistant that either. |
Chuck ![]() Send message Joined: 1 Dec 05 Posts: 511 Credit: 532,682 RAC: 0 |
But is the hardness of bronze more than (hardness Cu + hardness Sn)? We all know you can't get something from nothing. Much like the two pest species - it's no suprise that if you are being attacked by one pest, you'll have alot less resistance to devote to the second pest that comes to attack you! 'Synergy' my rear! The term should be used only with the understanding that there's no mysterious magic going on... Never Forget a Friend. Or an Enemy. |
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But is the hardness of bronze more than (hardness Cu + hardness Sn)? I didn't tote up the two metal's hardness, but the corrosion resistance for any given corrosion agent is far more than the sum of the two. |
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